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2009-07-08  Andreas J. Koenig  <andk@cpan.org>

	* from cpantesters-discuss

	05:04:06 <@ST47> Hey
	05:04:21 <@ST47> Anyone ever had a problem with the FTPstats.yml getting
  corrupted?
	05:04:49 <@ST47> It keeps getting messed up and throwing a syntax error through
  YAML::Syck and throwing my smokers into a useless state
	06:28:45 <@ST47> Probably ran out of disk space mid-write...
	07:53:33 <@rafl> yeah, i've seen that.

2009-07-02  Andreas J. Koenig  <andk@cpan.org>

	* Curtis Jewell reports failing tests that I overlooked on cpantesters.
	Seems to be that Expect-less systems fail some tests around push/pop on
	urllist???

	http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/2009/06/msg4356518.html

	Nope, I can remove Expect and still pass all tests.

	He is stuck in the test "urllist empty" and then gets the fail for the
	test "reordering urllist". Skipping the "urllist empty" test when no
	Expect is installed will most probably "fix" this. I mean, we're fixing
	a test, not code.

	Nope. Was a whitespace bug, FIXED.

2009-07-01  Andreas J. Koenig  <andk@cpan.org>

	* amend version numbers and let Andy Armstrongs script care for them
	automatically. 1.9402 was delivered with 3 decreasing version numbers.
	How come?

	Status: Decreasing version number
	=================================
	
	     module: CPAN::Distribution
	    version: 1.93
	    in file: CPAN-1.9402/lib/CPAN/Distribution.pm
	     status: Not indexed because CPAN-1.9304/lib/CPAN.pm in
	             A/AN/ANDK/CPAN-1.9304.tar.gz has a higher version number
	             (1.9304)
	
	     module: CPAN::Index
	    version: 1.93
	    in file: CPAN-1.9402/lib/CPAN/Index.pm
	     status: Not indexed because CPAN-1.9304/lib/CPAN.pm in
	             A/AN/ANDK/CPAN-1.9304.tar.gz has a higher version number
	             (1.9304)
	
	     module: CPAN::LWP::UserAgent
	    version: 1.00
	    in file: CPAN-1.9402/lib/CPAN/LWP/UserAgent.pm
	     status: Not indexed because CPAN-1.9304/lib/CPAN.pm in
	             A/AN/ANDK/CPAN-1.9304.tar.gz has a higher version number
	             (1.9304)

	Something like
	perl-reversion -current 0.0.4 -set 0.0.5 lib/**/*.pm

2009-04-19  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Acme::Badexample ($VERSION = do { $_++ while 1; return $_ };) breaks
	us. Could not get a stable solution from BSD::Resource. The problem was
	that when running the r command after a while the number of $SIG{XCPU}
	interrupts increased until finally the shell ended itself. Probably a
	bug somewhere else. Giving up at this state:

diff --git a/lib/CPAN/Module.pm b/lib/CPAN/Module.pm
index f9520d9..92d53c9 100644
--- a/lib/CPAN/Module.pm
+++ b/lib/CPAN/Module.pm
@@ -652,9 +652,32 @@ sub available_version {
 #-> sub CPAN::Module::parse_version ;
 sub parse_version {
     my($self,$parsefile) = @_;
+    our($soft0,$hard0,$used0);
+    if (CPAN->has_usable("BSD::Resource")) {
+        ($used0) = BSD::Resource::getrusage();
+        ($soft0,$hard0) = BSD::Resource::getrlimit(BSD::Resource::RLIMIT_CPU()) unless $soft0;
+        warn "used0[$used0]soft0[$soft0]hard0[$hard0]\n";
+        my $success = BSD::Resource::setrlimit(BSD::Resource::RLIMIT_CPU(),int(3+$used0),$hard0);
+        if ($success) {
+            $SIG{XCPU} = sub {
+                my $sig = shift;
+                die +{ SIG => $sig};
+            };
+        } else {
+            $CPAN::Frontend->mywarn("Could not set limit\n");
+        }
+    }
     my $have = eval { MM->parse_version($parsefile); };
     if ($@) {
-        $CPAN::Frontend->mywarn("Error while parsing version number in file '$parsefile'\n");
+        if (my $sig = $@->{SIG}) {
+            $CPAN::Frontend->mywarn("Signal $sig caught while parsing version number in file '$parsefile'\n");
+        } else {
+            $CPAN::Frontend->mywarn("Error while parsing version number in file '$parsefile'\n");
+        }
+    }
+    if ($soft0) {
+        BSD::Resource::setrlimit(BSD::Resource::RLIMIT_CPU(),$soft0,$hard0);
+        $SIG{XCPU} = 'IGNORE';
     }
     my $leastsanity = eval { defined $have && length $have; };
     $have = "undef" unless $leastsanity;

	Seems to be solved with a much simpler alarm call now but I had to
	choose a surprisingly high alarm value of 10. Below that I saw random
	errors.

2009-04-14  Andreas J. Koenig  <andk@cpan.org>

	* explicit option to prefer Archive::Tar over tar like suggested by
	https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=33686?

	explicit option for suppress readline!

	while being at readline: improve the wording "available" versus what
	Schwern suggested in https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=29862

2009-04-14  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* reminder: Solaris tar cannot read tarballs with a path with more than
	100 bytes. Wolfram re-reported it today.

	https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=43813 was the first report.
	No, https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=40843

	MST suggested switching to tgz. Good idea.

2009-03-13  Andreas J. Koenig  <andk@cpan.org>

	* git tags not exported. Why? Need to export the release tags. How?

	Do I actually have some? 

% git tag -l | tail
1.92_63
1.92_64
1.92_65
1.92_66
1.93
1.9301
1.9304
1.93_02
1.93_03
1.93_51

	But on the re-imported clone it ends with 1.9301

	git push --tags

	this is considered to dtrt. Can be checked visiting github and hovering
	over "all tags". According to
	http://blog.ashchan.com/archive/2008/06/30/tags-on-git/ at least.
	Problem with that is we have so many tags that we cannot scroll to the
	last in firefox.

	But indeed 'git push --tags' did work as expected and downloading to the
	the other box also

2009-03-13  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* test YAML::XS and YAML::Perl.

|                 | YAML::Syck | YAML::XS | YAML | YAML::Perl     | YAML::Tiny |
|                 |            |          |      |                |            |
| hosts command   | 0 s        | 0 s      | 5 s  | INTR after 1 m | FAILS      |
|                 |            |          |      |                |            |
| test Acme::Meta | 4 s        | 4 s      | 35 s | FAILS          | FAILS      |
|                 |            |          |      |                |            |

2009-02-28  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* support deprecate.pm: Nick's plan seems to be that when Switch.pm is
	installed at

	/Users/nick/Sandpit/511v/lib/perl5/5.11.0/Switch.pm

	then it is a second class citizen (because it came with perl) which
	warns when being loaded (due to deprecated.pm). But when it (the very
	same file) is installed from the CPAN it will live in a different
	location, say

	/Users/nick/Sandpit/511v/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.11.0/Switch.pm

	and then it will not warn about deprecate although the 'use deprecate'
	is in the file.

	The plan is to change CPAN.pm such that it installs from CPAN the very
	same version as the core version is. The difference should be recognized
	in the installation directory. So there shall be more magic in the INC
	order.
	
2009-02-27  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* todo/nice to have: completion on distros such that before the slash we
	complete user ids and after the slash not ls() but existing distros. Or
	maybe if we have more than x characters we complete the distros. Or some
	such.

2009-01-22  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* todo: add a new pause batch signing key

2009-01-18  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* 12:04:17 <@Alias> What I'm suggesting is that CPAN.pm can be embedded inside of 
                  larger programs
12:04:36 <@Alias> Or at least, it should be... it is extremely front-end 
                  centric in many places
12:05:22 <@Alias> Well, I can't actually load up CPAN.pm inside my process, as 
                  it's unsafe...
12:05:29 <@Alias> Because it does permalocks on files and stuff
12:05:36 <@Alias> And that goes all explodey
12:05:47 <@Alias> So I have to isolate each CPAN.pm call out in seperate 
                  processes
12:06:20 <@Alias> Mostly via pip or "cpan Whatever" calls
12:07:04 <@klapperl> maybe we can get rid of the permalocks 
12:07:11 <@Alias> That would be nice
12:07:26 <@Alias> Also, to not apply the "don't try to reinstall" between 
                  user-land commands
12:08:12 <@Alias> But if we could flush some of this stuff out, it would be nice

2008-11-03  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* shlomi-regex-utf8.pl needs a trick to kill itself after a second or
	two but without alarm because alarm doesn't kill the running regexp.
	Implemented with open..."|-". It uses alarm but in the parent and the
	child runs the regex.

	* S/SR/SRI/Catalyst-Plugin-HTML-Widget-1.1.tar.gz also calls cpanplus.

2008-11-02  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* somebody has successfully called cpanplus. I suspect it was
	Devel-ebug-HTTP-0.32. Or Module::Install::Catalyst. Whatever. I now have
	a process standing in
	/home/sand/.cpanplus/5.11.0/build/Catalyst-Runtime-5.7015 doing nothing
	having 6 pipes open and giving me no clue.

	Yes, Leon has Module::Install 0.60 in inc/. Arrrrrrrgh.

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=40599

2008-10-23  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Scriptalicious had its first fail on 2008-07-08 with a bleadperl since
	then 6 green and 31 red.

2008-09-14  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Class::MOP and 32734:

Class-MOP-0.64_01.tar.gz  OK
Class-MOP-0.64_02.tar.gz  OK
Class-MOP-0.64_03.tar.gz  OK
Class-MOP-0.64_04.tar.gz  OK
Class-MOP-0.64_05.tar.gz  NOT OK

	A comment explains that the other versions did not load XS but fell back
	to the pure perl versions.

	It's not a trivial enough thing for me to simply fix it with an #if.

	Envariable CLASS_MOP_NO_XS? Fixes it, of course but does not help us much.

2008-09-10  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Class-MOP

----Program----
eval q{use Class::MOP 0.65};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of ...pIitLTW/perl-5.10.0@32733/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of ...p3OAlrp/perl-5.10.0@32734/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=39149

2008-09-07  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* HOP-Parser-0.01 broke between

 FAIL  1754549 meta:from[DAGOLDEN] meta:date[2008-06-20T22:25:00]
 PASS  1727355 meta:from[andreas.koenig.gmwojprw] meta:date[2008-06-18T02:45:00]

	HOP::Stream 0.02 came out

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=37367 by RUDY with patch

2008-09-06  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* ATOURBIN/rpm-build-perl-0.6.8.tar.gz (= B::PerlReq) broke between Jun
	28 and Jul 8 for all perls that had modules up to date. My 34053 is not
	uptodate and it still tests ok.

	Looking at the output of 'r' should reveal something.

	B::Debug                       1.07      1.11  OK
	B::Utils                       0.05      0.06  OK
	Devel::CallTrace                1.0       1.2  OK
	Devel::Backtrace               0.10      0.11  OK
	CPAN::Reporter                 1.15      1.1601 NOT OK

	https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=39054 by DAGOLDEN with patch

2008-09-04  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* limit the autogeneration of a Makefile.PL to single-file stuff should
	not break too many script distros. Requested by

Mailing-List: contact perl-qa-help@perl.org; run by ezmlm
To: perl-qa@perl.org
Subject: Re: imaginary Makefile.PL (and scripts)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 13:24:34 -0700
Message-Id: <200809031324.34780.ewilhelm@cpan.org>
From: Eric Wilhelm <scratchcomputing@gmail.com>

2008-08-23  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* it has already been reported as http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=36912

	Hook::Filter has a use_ok in a BEGIN block. Only reached one of several
	things is missing because then it is a skip_all. use_ok in BEGIN block?
	Wasn't this allowed in old times due to a Test::Simple bug? Yes. I added
	a comment to the ticket.

2008-07-17  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* mixed success with JSON::XS. At least a first binary search
	demonstrates that there must be some problem.

----Program----
eval q{use JSON::XS 2.22};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../pQYroRO/perl-5.9.3@27322/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../piMBZQp/perl-5.9.3@27323/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----

	Is it a Test::Harness problem? The test output looks OK but the summary
	says FAIL. T:H is up to date, 3.12. Upgrading CPAN from 1.9205 to
	1.92_63. Upgrading CPAN::Reporter from 1.1601 to 1.16_51.

	Still same bad result.

	Upgrading to Test::Harness::Straps 0.30 No success

cpan[5]> install JSON::XS
Running install for module 'JSON::XS'
Running make for M/ML/MLEHMANN/JSON-XS-2.22.tar.gz
  Has already been unwrapped into directory /home/sand/.cpan/build/JSON-XS-2.22-bEP80n                                                                          
  Has already been made
Running make test
PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/piMBZQp/perl-5.9.3@27323/bin/perl "-MExtUtils::Command::MM" "-e" "test_harness(0, 'blib/lib', 'blib/arch')" t/*.t
t/00_load...............ok
t/01_utf8...............ok
t/02_error.............. All 31 subtests passed
t/03_types..............ok
t/04_dwiw_encode........ok
t/05_dwiw_decode........ok
t/06_pc_pretty..........ok
t/07_pc_esc.............ok
t/08_pc_base............ok
t/09_pc_extra_number....ok
t/10_pc_keysort.........ok
t/11_pc_expo............ok
t/12_blessed............ok
t/13_limit..............ok
t/14_latin1.............ok
t/15_prefix.............ok
t/16_tied...............ok
t/17_relaxed............ok
t/18_json_checker.......ok
t/19_incr...............ok
t/99_binary.............ok

Test Summary Report
-------------------
Files=21, Tests=25547, 24 wallclock secs ( 9.90 usr  0.04 sys + 13.26 cusr  0.25 csys = 23.45 CPU)
Result: FAIL
Failed 1/21 test programs. 0/25547 subtests failed.


	Most probably the t/02error.t thing, it has no "ok".

	Oh no! I saw the above thing several times and now I retried and it has
	disappeared with that same perl @27323.

2008-07-13  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* DBD-Pg on k81 hangs forever asking for 'Path to pg_config?'

	* STEVAN/FCGI-Engine-0.04 seems to hang forever

2008-07-09  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* App-Control-1.02 seems to call the wrong perl and when it then fails
	it goes into a--fortunately slow--endless loop. Need to investigate
	soonish if nobody beats me to it.

2008-07-07  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* XML::RSS::Tools has three FAILS that nobody else reported but me.

	Manually reproducable with 5.10.0 () and ParseReport does not lead me in
	any direction.

	So I decide to upgrade random pieces.

	I come by Archive::Any and I see it fail the same way as XML::RSS::Tools!!!

t/type............
#   Failed test 'right warning, unknown type'
#   at t/type.t line 15.
# found carped warning: uplevel 2 is more than the caller stack at /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pVNtS9N/perl-5.8.0@32642/lib/site_perl/5.10.0/Test/Warn.pm line 283
# found warning: No mime type found for type 'hominawoof' at /home/sand/.cpan/build/Archive-Any-0.0932-SZsz9I/blib/lib/Archive/Any.pm line 169.
# expected to find warning: (?-xism:No mime type found for type 'hominawoof')

#   Failed test 'right warning, no type'
#   at t/type.t line 19.
# found carped warning: uplevel 2 is more than the caller stack at /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pVNtS9N/perl-5.8.0@32642/lib/site_perl/5.10.0/Test/Warn.pm line 283
# found warning: No handler available for type 'text/plain' at /home/sand/.cpan/build/Archive-Any-0.0932-SZsz9I/blib/lib/Archive/Any.pm line 179.
# expected to find warning: (?-xism:No handler available for type 'text/plain')
# Looks like you failed 2 tests of 7.
 Dubious, test returned 2 (wstat 512, 0x200)
 Failed 2/7 subtests 

Test Summary Report
-------------------
t/type        (Wstat: 512 Tests: 7 Failed: 2)
  Failed tests:  5, 7


	Test-Warn has many used-by and many dependencies. I pick for example
	dependency on Sub::Uplevel and this perl has 0.19_03.

	Only few have 0.19_03 installed. And indeed, downgrading to 0.1901 fixes
	the issue.

2008-07-03  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Math-BaseCalc

	1802488 1802531 1813504 1814071 1819368 1823811 1826225 

2008-06-28  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	*  rt-perl-22977

----Program----
sub f ($); # Comment out to get right result!
sub f ($) {
        my $test = $_[0];
        write;
        format STDOUT =
@<<<<<<<
$test
.
}
f(1);
f(2);

----Output of .../pMZAcVt/perl-5.8.0@19648/bin/perl----
1
1

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../pgL2gwc/perl-5.8.0@19649/bin/perl----

----EOF ($?='11')----


2008-06-26  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Email-Simple 2.004/2.003: During the latest megainstall I installed
	first 2.004 and later 2.003 for whatever reason. And then, when he tried
	to install Email-Simple-FromHandle, he complained that 2.003 was
	insufficient.

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=37144

2008-06-18  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Sys-Syscall-0.22 hangs with 34066 (maint-5.8) during 02-sendfile. That
	makes Danga-Socket a DISCARD. Hmm. And then Perlbal hangs in its test.
	Hmm.

	update 2008-06-23: 34074@bleadperl also hangs. 34053 too. Why did I not
	notice that? 33949 same. Aha: since Jun 15 there is process 9195 running
	occupying port 60001, owned by sand, parent is 1 and it has plenty
	children. I kill it and run the tests for 33949 again. Doesn't help. Now
	process 21113, testing some t/31-realworld.t has occupied port 60001.

	When I kill that then the Syscall test runs through.

	Whose bug is that? I'd say Sys::Syscall should fail more gracefully
	instead of just hanging.

	Retrying 34053: now Sys-Syscall-0.22/t/01-epoll.t fails! But at least
	without hanging. Same with 33949:

t/01-epoll.........
#   Failed test 'made temp listening socket'
#   at t/01-epoll.t line 61.
Can't use an undefined value as a symbol reference at t/01-epoll.t line 62.
# Looks like you planned 20 tests but only ran 13.
# Looks like you failed 1 test of 13 run.
# Looks like your test died just after 13.
 Dubious, test returned 255 (wstat 65280, 0xff00)
 Failed 8/20 subtests 

	Of course, there's process 9193 listening on 60000 since Jun 15.

	And now epoll runs through everywhere.

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=37075

2008-06-13  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Todo: report Data::Float the bug to switch to "traditional" instead of
	"passthrough".

	https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=36731

2008-06-12  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* As the last time in 2008-03-08 today I hit the Makefile.PLs written by
	Module::Build::Compat "passthough" model. This time with
	Data-Float-0.009 and Text-SimpleTable-0.03. Why does this perl have no
	Module::Build? I thought my megainstall rules install it because they
	install Bundle::CPANxxl? Yes, I do. But M:B FAILs with current
	5.8.9-tobe. Is it Test::Harness 3.11? At line 675 we install T:H 3.11
	and at 950 we fail the test compat.t, so yes, this is with 3.11.

	Retrying with 33994 I see T:H 3.11 fail in its
	t/compat/test-harness-compat.t. It has 3.10 and M:B PASSes.

	Retrying with 33935 I see M:B PASS with T:H 3.10. Here T:H 3.11 PASSes
	and is now installed. Testing M:B again FAILs on its t/compat.t test.

	Retrying with what next? I would like to have a stock 5.8.8 as it comes
	with just the bare metal.... Not needed because AndyA apparently
	already knows (witnessed on #p5p)

	Workaround is to force install M:B.

2008-06-05  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* URI::Escape::XS has 10 fails all of which have useperlio, usemymalloc,
	ld=cc, intsize=4, hint=recommended, dlsrc=dl_dlopen.xs,
	d_longlong=define, ccversion="", cc=cc, alignbytes=4. But what does that
	tell us?

	perl bin/quidi-getreports.pl -q=conf:intsize URI-Escape-XS | perl -nale 'if ($F[0] eq "FAIL"){ print "~/var/cpantesters/nntp-testers/$F[1]"}'|xargs echo

	With this list we can grep for the test failure (it is always 03-hashu.
	Uniq -c gives us:

      1 #   Failed test 'decodeURI(&quot;%uD869&quot;)'
      9 #   Failed test 'decodeURI(&quot;%uD869%uDEB2%u5F3E%u0064&quot;)'

	The shorter one is /home/k/var/cpantesters/nntp-testers/1595927 from chris.

	No clue.

2008-05-31  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* There seems to be a bug when the user has makepl_args and the
	distroprefs file has other pl/args.

2008-05-29  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* flock on windows is mandatory -- mail from Jan Dubois

2008-05-28  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* what's the matter with maint-5.10? need a perl between 33823 and 33921
	and because 33921 does not build I must read the available perls in the
	APC directory:

	% ls APC/perl-5.10.x-diffs

	Trying 33883. Trying lots of older 5.10s which all must have worked some
	time before because I do not think the I have skipped testing often. All
	fail in the same way. Some debian upgrade must have broken something.
	For the record:

ok 385 - Archive type recognized properly
not ok 386 - extract() for 'x.lzma' reports success

#   Failed test 'extract() for 'x.lzma' reports success'
#   at ../lib/Archive/Extract/t/01_Archive-Extract.t line 334.
ok 387 - No errors capturing buffers
not ok 388 - Found correct number of output files

#   Failed test 'Found correct number of output files'
#   at ../lib/Archive/Extract/t/01_Archive-Extract.t line 356.
#          got: '0'
#     expected: '1'
Modification of non-creatable array value attempted, subscript -1 at ../lib/Archive/Extract/t/01_Archive-Extract.t line 358.
1..388
# Looks like you failed 2 tests of 388.
# Looks like your test died just after 388.
dubious
        Test returned status 255 (wstat 65280, 0xff00)
DIED. FAILED tests 386, 388
        Failed 2/388 tests, 99.48% okay
Failed Test                               Stat Wstat Total Fail  List of Failed
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
../lib/Archive/Extract/t/01_Archive-Extra  255 65280   388    2  386 388
Failed 1/1 test scripts. 2/388 subtests failed.
Files=1, Tests=388,  3 wallclock secs ( 1.05 cusr +  0.34 csys =  1.39 CPU)

	But Archive::Extract from CPAN passes its tests.

	Look, the x.lzma files in perl and in Archive::Extract differ:

% md5sum ~/.cpan/build/Archive-Extract-0.26-t7pU2J/t/src/x.lzma ./x.lzma
44c17dfa72c5277ff13518c9214f8a02  /home/sand/.cpan/build/Archive-Extract-0.26-t7pU2J/t/src/x.lzma
447ad6244441d9cccfa8ab690b6cd035  ./x.lzma
>sand@k75:/home/src/perl/repoperls/perl-m-5.10.0@33942/lib/Archive/Extract/t/src% cmp -l ~/.cpan/build/Archive-Extract-0.26-t7pU2J/t/src/x.lzma ./x.lzma
 1 135  43
 2   0  43
 3   0  43
 4 200  43
 5   0  43
 6   0  43
 7   0  43
 8   0  43
 9   0  43
10   0  43
11   0  43
12   0  43
13   0  43
14   0  43
15   0  43
16   0  43
17   0  43
18   0  43
cmp: EOF auf /home/sand/.cpan/build/Archive-Extract-0.26-t7pU2J/t/src/x.lzma.

	What? The test file in the CPAN distro is only 18 bytes? Bleedperl's
	also has only 18 bytes.

	see http://public.activestate.com/cgi-bin/perlbrowse/r///depot/maint-5.10/perl/lib/Archive/Extract/t/src/x.lzma.packed which says:

//depot/maint-5.10/perl/lib/Archive/Extract/t/src/x.lzma.packed
... #2 change 33943 integrate on 2008/05/28 by davem@davem-pigeon (text) 'Integrate: [ 33414] Subject: [p'
... ... copy from //depot/perl/lib/Archive/Extract/t/src/x.lzma.packed#2
... #1 change 33113 branch on 2008/01/29 by nicholas@nicholas-saigo (text) 'Integrate: [ 32652] Upgrade to '
... ... branch from //depot/perl/lib/Archive/Extract/t/src/x.lzma.packed#1

	And the same for bleadperl http://public.activestate.com/cgi-bin/perlbrowse/r///depot/perl/lib/Archive/Extract/t/src/x.lzma.packed

//depot/perl/lib/Archive/Extract/t/src/x.lzma.packed
... #2 change 33470 edit on 2008/03/10 by rgs@scipion (text) 'Subject: Re: [PATCH] make Archi'
... ... copy into //depot/maint-5.10/perl/lib/Archive/Extract/t/src/x.lzma.packed#2
... #1 change 33098 add on 2008/01/28 by stevep@stevep-kirk (text) 'Upgrade to Archive-Extract-0.26'
... ... branch into //depot/maint-5.10/perl/lib/Archive/Extract/t/src/x.lzma.packed#1

	main-5.10 has the packed file instead of the unpacked one. So who calls
	uupacktool and how?

	Ahh, 33943 must fix it. My last try was 33942.

2008-05-25  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* >>>>> On Sun, 25 May 2008 12:53:15 -0400, "David Golden" said:

  > So here's what I think should be the logic, more or less:

  > * under "install", all 'requires' must be satisfied without adding
  > build directories to PERL5LIB or else they need to be queued.  All
  > "build_requires" must be satisfied including build directories or they
  > need to be queued.

  > * under "test/make", "requires" or "build_requires" must be satisfied
  > including build directories or they need to be queued

  > What do you think?

	Excellent summary. This will indeed allow the user to mix install and
	make/test commands.

2008-05-21  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Games::RolePlay::MapGen puzzling fails may need autobundle diffs.

	/home/sand/.cpan/Bundle/Snapshot_2008_05_21_00.pm

2008-05-18  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* David did some refactoring and now we see that satisfy_requires and
	satisfy_configure_requires are similar but not foldable into one thing.
	Is this intentional or are there bugs lurking?

	* "later_for" seems an unused variable, David said. Dispensable or lost
	in transition? Not lost in transition, rather introduced without a clear
	mission.

	* bleedperl between 33832 and 33845 broke CPAN::Reporter?

t/51_test_report_fail..................
#   Failed test 't-MultipleMatch: 'make test' grade explanation correct'
#   at t/51_test_report_fail.t line 105.
#          got: ''make test' error detected.'
#     expected: 'One or more tests failed.'
# Looks like you failed 1 test of 102.
 Dubious, test returned 1 (wstat 256, 0x100)
 Failed 1/102 subtests

	This is in the logfile but I cannot reproduce it.

2008-05-10  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Kwiki::Test and 5.10.1 tobe have a problem. 33787 is my maint-5.10,
	33788 my blead. Autobundles in

	    /home/sand/.cpan/Bundle/Snapshot_2008_05_10_0[01].pm

	First suspect File::Path 2.04 vs 2.06?

	http://rt.cpan.org//Ticket/Display.html?id=35761

2008-05-04  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Devel::Profiler

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=35620

	* new bug in Module::Install? MooseX::Storage declares the dependency
	"Best" on feature "YAML". Then I set my usual environment variables for
	Module::Install and nobody asks a question and Best is not being
	installed. Who's doing wrong?

	To find out, we need a perl without Best.pm. 33711

	Trying on the commandline both

	/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pw3p8BE/perl-5.10.0@33711/bin/perl Build.PL
	and
	/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pw3p8BE/perl-5.10.0@33711/bin/perl Makefile.PL

	ask the right questions, But setting either PERL_AUTOINSTALL=--skip or
	PERL_EXTUTILS_AUTOINSTALL=--skip leads to no questions asked.

	This is contrary to my expectations but as I'm not sure how
	Module::Install intends to behave I cannot really tell what's up.

	I filed a ticket against Module::Install to please provide some docs.

	https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=35619

2008-05-03  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* SOAP-WSDL fails sometimes with Can't locate object method "new" via
	package "SOAP::WSDL::Transport::HTTP"

	Stepping through the debugger reveals it may have to do with the fact
	that I have Test::Without::Module installed. Because otherwise he skips
	tests silently.

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=35610

	* Catalyst-View-Jemplate 0.06 had a few fails recently, the first on May
	1.

	Jemplate 0.22 seems to break it

    CPAN_FILE    R/RK/RKRIMEN/Jemplate-0.22.tar.gz
    UPLOAD_DATE  2008-04-29

	There is no older version in the RKRIMEN directory. Previous maintainer
	was INGY. Downgrading to INGY/Jemplate-0.21? Does not fix it. 0.20 fixes
	this.

	http://rt.cpan.org//Ticket/Display.html?id=35609

	* DROLSKY/Log-Dispatch-2.21.tar.gz has its first fail ever yesterday.

	Looks like a Params::Validate issue

	k75 33755 0.89 PASS
	k75 33755 0.90 FAIL
	k81 32642 0.89 PASS
	k81 32642 0.90 FAIL
	k78 5.8.8 0.89 PASS
	k78 5.8.8 0.90 FAIL

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=35608

	* SHA256-0.01b has some 64bit issue. All FAILs are systems that have
	use64bitint set.

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=33944

2008-04-29  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* XML::SAX::RTF needs an emergency release

	* Bug in new distroprefs: sorting has been lost

2008-04-26  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* get-reports: when we get no clue from whatever we try we would like to
	have an automaton that tests for every possible dependency, calculates a
	regression and lists them. POE::API::Peek is such a case but also
	List-Sliding-Changes might be analyzable that way.

	L:S:C is fixed and get-reports did not help. Would have needed more
	insights into tests but most reports do not provide that especially not
	when it is a PASS.

2008-04-25  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* IPC::Run fails today with any perl I try even with perls that have
	installed it successfully in the past and recent days. Either a
	dependency on a module has got a new version or something on that system
	(semaphores?). Interesting is http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=28150
	Locale! distropref written.

2008-04-23  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Event::Lib seems to need a binarysearch. Might be a Test::Harness issue.

	Ok, came to the conclusion it is Test::Harness 3.0 related.

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=35355

	* JSON::XS 2.2 is accused to need a binary search but I find it working
	under many bleadperls and indeed failing with a very old bleedperl
	(30953).

	cpantesters currently count Pass 65 : Fail 3, so this seems to be a
	bogus report.

2008-04-21  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* apc-overview says/should say

maint-5.10                   5.10.1   32695  33660 ( 116) [have 33642]
maint-5.8                     5.8.9   27041  33694 ( 982) [have 33638]
perl                         5.11.0   32643  33714 ( 810) [have 33714]

	missing number of patches since last build

2008-04-20  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Coming back to Data::Serializer. The trick was to do what in the
	debugger?

	make testdb TEST_FILE=t/05-Encryption.t

	b 53 "JSON" eq $serializer
	s
	c 340
	s
	c 738
	s
	c 642

	Ahja, now we can reconstruct.

	use Crypt::CBC;
	my $secret = "test";
	my $cipher = "Blowfish";
	my $digest = qq{deadbeef};
	$digest .= chr(256); chop $digest;
	my $cipher_obj = Crypt::CBC->new($secret,$cipher);
	print length $cipher_obj->encrypt($digest)==32 ? "ok\n" : "not ok\n";

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=35239

	And a perlbug

	Bitops on strings when UTF8 flag is set

2008-04-13  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* would like to get DJHD/Speech-Recognizer-SPX-0.09.tar.gz running on
	debian but it needs more work:

Package pocketsphinx was not found in the pkg-config search path.
Perhaps you should add the directory containing `pocketsphinx.pc'
to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
No package 'pocketsphinx' found
Unable to locate PocketSphinx using pkg-config.  Please make sure that
you have installed pkg-config and PocketSphinx on your system, and
that PKG_CONFIG_PATH is set correctly.


2008-04-12  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* would like to get JavaScript to compile. Needs work on Debian. The
	$lib/$libs thing is broken, fixing it was easy but then the compilation
	and the tests still failed.

	* refresh investigations Data::Serializer

	The string that is brought from JSON via Data::Serializer to Crypt::CBC::encrypt is this:

  DB<10> Devel::Peek::Dump $data
SV = PVMG(0x8a9e908) at 0x87e1964
  REFCNT = 2
  FLAGS = (PADMY,POK,pPOK,UTF8)
  IV = 0
  NV = 0
  PV = 0x8b32198 "6cbcecd11182ea942e597f5a5b77b2883885cceccff88f6b08e025db66316c96=[\"one\",\"two\",\"three\"]"\0 [UTF8 "6cbcecd11182ea942e597f5a5b77b2883885cceccff88f6b08e025db66316c96=["one","two","three"]"]
  CUR = 86
  LEN = 221
  MAGIC = 0x85c4148
    MG_VIRTUAL = &PL_vtbl_utf8
    MG_TYPE = PERL_MAGIC_utf8(w)
    MG_LEN = 86

	So far no difference between 2396[56] in Crypt::CBC::crypt.

	The difference comes after 

	my @blocks = unpack("a$bs "x(int(length($self->{'buffer'})/$bs)) . "a*", $self->{'buffer'});

	These blocks are UTF8 since 23966 and were not so in 23965. Even with
	identical 7bit content this makes a difference later.

2008-04-11  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* may be a bug in Distroprefs.pm the $abs in line 122. Seen with some DD
	only perl.

	* OOTools:

----Program----
eval q{use Class::Error 2.21};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../pBnR154/perl-5.9.2@24659/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../pWYtCAP/perl-5.9.2@24660/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----


2008-04-05  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* CharsetDetector

----Program----
eval q{use CharsetDetector 1.0};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../pdVMYpV/perl-5.9.2@25178/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../p1Kjy6j/perl-5.9.2@25179/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----


	* There are some perls on my system that cannot compile current Expect!

	Which are that? At the moment just 25185. 25180 and 25194 both have it,
	so the gap must be pretty small.	

2008-04-04  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Data-Serializer:

----Program----
eval q{use Data::Serializer 0.44; use JSON 2.07};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../p691lTk/perl-5.9.1@23965/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../pSMD0sR/perl-5.9.1@23966/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----


2008-04-01  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Ricardo Signes suggested to discuss PAUSE issues on some list and I
	suggested reviving cpan-workers. Now I am not sure that I'm subscribed
	there. Google suggests the address is cpan-workers@perl.org

	http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.workers/

	has the last posting from 2005. I'll now retry to send a message.

	update 2008-04-03 akoenig : seems to be disabled. But perl.cpan.discuss
	is in the slow lists and alive and I'm probably not subscribed.

	* Both Barbie and David Golden agreed to my plan to refuse the make
	phase when we are in the make(1) domain AND some files have a future
	timestamp. Slaven is opposed to the idea but has no better suggestion.
	Details in the thread on cpan-testers-discuss starting on 2008-03-28.

	* To understand #34582 I need a perl without Glib, ExtUtils::Depends,
	and ExtUtils::PkgConfig. Then I should issue a 'test Glib'

	No, better would be a perl with ExtUtils::Depends < 0.300 and/or
	ExtUtils::PkgConfig < 1.00 to see if they can pick up the right one.

	See also David Golden Message-ID:
	<5d4beb40803052058w7f774a8u3a72891b1aba9803@mail.gmail.com> on
	cpan-testers-discuss

2008-03-30  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* No useable patch available between 17639 and 17672

	This is where we lost JSON.

----Program----
eval q{use JSON 2.07};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../p0IId7q/perl-5.8.0@17639/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../p957hf5/perl-5.8.0@17672/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----
Need a perl between 17639 and 17672
(but 17642, 17654, 17656 could not successfully be used to build perl)

	For some reason -Ui_db does not seem to work with these? No it seems the
	-Ui_db was lost or forgotten.

	So I retried after deleting much remainings from the previous binary
	search and finally found a straight patch threshold:

----Program----
eval q{use JSON 2.07};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../pfB6YBj/perl-5.8.0@17656/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../pgWUpay/perl-5.8.0@17671/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----

	So it is 17671. And as expected it has (pretty certainly) to do with the
	change of the PERL_VERSION in patchlevel.h from 8 to 9.

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=34599 reports/fixes JSON
	
	* distname vs modulename: david golden recently seemed to have suggested
	a solution to the distname trap that everybody so far had been ignoring.
	Where is a link?

	The thread was Subject: RFC: URI::cpan on the module-authors@perl.org
	mailing list.

	* No useable patch available between 17639 and 17836

	-Ui_db as described further down

2008-03-29  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* timestamps in the future:

>  I'm going beyond that: toss the entire _make_ unless they say
>  "allow_future_timestamps". Then CPAN::Reporter could refuse to send
>  reports when they actually do set "allow_future_timestamp".

I think that's a very reasonable way to go.

	This needs to be done soonish.

	* Crypt-CBC-2.27 seems to not declare prereq Crypt-Rijndael but fail
	without it? Seen with 25418. Reported in
	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=34521

2008-03-27  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Data::Serializer: I stopped a binary search because of Math::Pari

	Then I restarted it and it ended with the impossible resolution:

----Program----
eval q{use Data::Serializer 0.44};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of ...pVDHwBj/perl-5.10.0@33153/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of ...pyNdNAp/perl-5.10.0@33154/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----

	Crap because 33154 is a patch of just a test.

-optimize='-g';
+optimize='-O2';

-archname='i686-linux-64int';
+archname='i686-linux';

	Let's remove 33154. Next iteration ends here:

----Program----
eval q{use Data::Serializer 0.44};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of ...pyQ307v/perl-5.10.0@33550/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of ...p0PdUk4/perl-5.10.0@33551/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----

	with only configdiff:

-d_builtin_expect='define';
+d_builtin_expect='undef';

	Stepping through the debugger reaches a point:

643:      return $cipher_obj->encrypt($digest);
  DB<42> x $digest
0  '6cbcecd11182ea942e597f5a5b77b2883885cceccff88f6b08e025db66316c96=["one","two","three"]'
  DB<43> x $cipher_obj
0  Crypt::CBC=HASH(0x90d1b74)
   'blocksize' => 8
   'cipher' => 'Crypt::Blowfish'
   'header_mode' => 'salt'
   'iv' => undef
   'key' => undef
   'keysize' => 56
   'legacy_hack' => undef
   'literal_key' => ''
   'make_random_iv' => 1
   'make_random_salt' => 1
   'padding' => CODE(0x8aa745c)
      -> &Crypt::CBC::_standard_padding in /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/prFWwqr/perl-5.10.0@33580/lib/site_perl/5.11.0/Crypt/CBC.pm:461-476
   'passphrase' => 'test'
   'pcbc' => undef
   'salt' => undef
  DB<44> s
Crypt::CBC::encrypt(/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/prFWwqr/perl-5.10.0@33580/lib/site_perl/5.11.0/Crypt/CBC.pm:173):
173:        my ($self,$data) = @_;
  DB<44> n
Crypt::CBC::encrypt(/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/prFWwqr/perl-5.10.0@33580/lib/site_perl/5.11.0/Crypt/CBC.pm:174):
174:        $self->start('encrypting');
  DB<44> 
Crypt::CBC::encrypt(/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/prFWwqr/perl-5.10.0@33580/lib/site_perl/5.11.0/Crypt/CBC.pm:175):
175:        my $result = $self->crypt($data);
  DB<44> 
input must be 8 bytes long at /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/prFWwqr/perl-5.10.0@33580/lib/site_perl/5.11.0/i686-linux-64int/Crypt/Blowfish.pm line 56.
 at /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/prFWwqr/perl-5.10.0@33580/lib/site_perl/5.11.0/i686-linux-64int/Crypt/Blowfish.pm line 56
        Crypt::Blowfish::encrypt('Crypt::Blowfish=HASH(0x90cc684)', 'u¿&µ[²k') called at /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/prFWwqr/perl-5.10.0@33580/lib/site_perl/5.11.0/Crypt/CBC.pm line 250
        Crypt::CBC::crypt('Crypt::CBC=HASH(0x90d1b74)', '6cbcecd11182ea942e597f5a5b77b2883885cceccff88f6b08e025db66316...') called at /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/prFWwqr/perl-5.10.0@33580/lib/site_perl/5.11.0/Crypt/CBC.pm line 175
        Crypt::CBC::encrypt('Crypt::CBC=HASH(0x90d1b74)', '6cbcecd11182ea942e597f5a5b77b2883885cceccff88f6b08e025db66316...') called at blib/lib/Data/Serializer.pm line 643
        Data::Serializer::_encrypt('Data::Serializer=SCALAR(0x909efac)', '["one","two","three"]', 'Blowfish', 'SHA-256') called at blib/lib/Data/Serializer.pm line 738
        Data::Serializer::serialize(undef, 'ARRAY(0x8510aac)') called at ./t/serializer-testlib line 340
        main::run_test('ExtUtils::TBone=HASH(0x85122ac)', 'JSON', 'simplearray', 'encryption') called at t/05-Encryption.t line 53


	Retrying

  DB<47> 
Crypt::CBC::crypt(/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/prFWwqr/perl-5.10.0@33580/lib/site_perl/5.11.0/Crypt/CBC.pm:245):
245:        foreach my $block (@blocks) {
  DB<47> x \@blocks
0  ARRAY(0x8a93128)
   0  '6cbcecd1'
   1  '1182ea94'
   2  '2e597f5a'
   3  '5b77b288'
   4  '3885ccec'
   5  'cff88f6b'
   6  '08e025db'
   7  '66316c96'
   8  '=["one",'
   9  '"two","t'
  DB<48> l
245==>      foreach my $block (@blocks) {
246:          if ($d) { # decrypting
247:            $result .= $iv = $iv ^ $self->{'crypt'}->decrypt($block);
248:            $iv = $block unless $self->{pcbc};
249           } else { # encrypting
250:            $result .= $iv = $self->{'crypt'}->encrypt($iv ^ $block);
251           }
252:          $iv = $iv ^ $block if $self->{pcbc};
253         }
254:        $self->{'civ'} = $iv;               # remember the iv
  DB<48> c 254
input must be 8 bytes long at /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/prFWwqr/perl-5.10.0@33580/lib/site_perl/5.11.0/i686-linux-64int/Crypt/Blowfish.pm line 56.


	After some more stepping down into the debugger I discover that somebody
	passes in an 8 character string to Blowfish and as it is UTF8 it is not
	8 bytes and Blowfish correctly dies. Seems to be JSON 2.07 related.
	33550 has no JSON installed. Is it that? Yes, maybe. But if I add JSON
	into the prereq mix I need to go much further back in history. 5.8.8 is
	OK, 24518 isn't and for perls before patch 25000 several things fall
	apart for different reasons.

	19173 cannot have JSON and subsequently Data::Serializer succeeds. So
	the test scripts must add JSON as explicit requirement.

	Now I find out that JSON does not run on 17968 either. So where did JSON
	2.07 stop? 17639 was the beginning of 5.9.0 the day after 5.8.0. And
	JSON 2.07 still did work with 17637.

	* Math::Pari: a perlmonks posting leads to success but later perls broke
	it again

2008-03-25  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* maybe still unreported: Safe::World, Data::Dump::Streamer,
	Authen-Htpasswd-0.16, YAML::LibYAML, Handel

	* reported but unfixed: Devel::ebug, Storable, Tk, Devel::Size

	* reported and fixed: FreezeThaw, Test::Deep, Params::Validate

2008-03-25  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Repeatedly observed a "Possible unintended interpolation of ...@33430"

	Where did it come from? Probably my fault!

2008-03-23  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* RSOD/IPC-Run-0.80.tar.gz fails? Apparently yes, from time to time.

2008-03-21  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Does Clone have issues ATM? Object-Relation has a problem and among
	all dependencies the reddest is Clone. But I do have Clone in current
	blead, why is it red? Simply because Steve and I have patched for 5.11
	and not reported on RT as it seems.  Now done with

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=34317

2008-03-19  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Devel::Profiler has a very annoying test that tests plausible speed
	and sets the threshod so low that nearly everybody fails.

2008-03-18  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Slaven reports a special problem with Util-Properties 0.17 with
	current CPAN.pm. It complains about -T while 1.9205 does not. With 5.8.8.

	I have seen quite some successes with current CPAN.pm and several perls.
	But also inexplicable behaviour (but not wrt -T).

	Other contenders:

	BBKR/IPC-Concurrency-0.4.tar.gz
	JACQUELIN/RRDTool-Creator-0.9.tar.gz
	ADIE/Test-Class-0.28.tar.gz


2008-03-17  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* PERL5INC/OPT/LIB needs more testing. Net::Amazon::Signature is well
	suited because it depends on Spiffy but doesn't declare that. Somebody
	seems to put the PERL5OPT into INC:

	I got it. It seems not possible to load two -M with one PERL5OPT (?)

	At least this does not work:

	PERL5OPT="-MCPAN::PERL5INC=yaml_module,YAML::Syck -MCPAN::PERL5INC=yaml_module,YAML::Syck" make test

	So I must 

2008-03-16  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Slaven's segfault in RT 34066 needs more thought!!!

2008-03-14  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* GSHANK/Form-Processor-Model-DBIC-0.01.tar.gz has something that triggers

Can't use string ("--") as a HASH ref while "strict refs" in use at /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/pnDGtsd/perl-5.8.7@27040/lib/5.8.8/CPAN.pm line 8441.
ATTN-ATTN-ATTN-ATTN-ATTN-ATTN-ATTN-ATTN-ATTN-ATTN-ATTN-ATTN
      Something went wrong during
      /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/pnDGtsd/perl-5.8.7@27040/bin/perl
      G/GS/GSHANK/Form-Processor-Model-DBIC-0.01.tar.gz
      (sleeping 30)
ATTN-ATTN-ATTN-ATTN-ATTN-ATTN-ATTN-ATTN-ATTN-ATTN-ATTN-ATTN

	Fixed in my sources, too early to write RT ticket.

	At least wrote http://rt.cpan.org//Ticket/Display.html?id=34073 on
	YAML::Syck which should (probably?) not have accepted this META.yml.

2008-03-11  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* 

----Program----
eval q{use Hatena::Keyword 0.05};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../pW6uQKQ/perl-5.9.1@24009/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../pBwPNFp/perl-5.9.1@24010/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----

	thinnercache tells me that Unicode::RecursiveDowngrade broke at the same
	patch
	
2008-03-10  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Some day Ken Williams made a few statements about what CPAN.pm is
	considered to do in the face of a recommends or an optional_features.
	Where is it? Can't find it.

	So recap what Slaven hashed out today:

	If the user says dynamic_config=0 and specifies optional_features and
	the distroprefs give me want_optional_features, then I can merge these
	requires and build_requires and configure_requires into the main stuff
	and proceed without asking questions. Really cool.

	* VPIT/IPC-MorseSignals-0.13 hangs during t/62-fork-storable.t under
	maint-5.10@33443.

	And it hangs on t/61-fork-utf8 under maint-5.10.0@33412

	* AI::Prolog jumped into my eye:

2007-12-20T21:07  perl  32674   584   JJORE/AI-Prolog-0.739.tar.gz  NOT OK
2007-12-18T19:17  perl  32642   441   JJORE/AI-Prolog-0.739.tar.gz  OK

	Red since then independent of the branch. Already reported in RT 31905,
	it's the infamous Test::Simple fix.

2008-03-09  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* ExtUtils::Command broken; suspect Test::Simple

perl/pMDhhVO/perl-5.10.0@33370;5.11.0;thr=;opt=-O2;perl_patchlevel=              PASS 0.75
perl/paM8WrN/perl-5.10.0@33387;5.11.0;thr=;opt=-O2;perl_patchlevel=              FAIL 0.77
                         33390                                                   PASS
perl/pXTMoRe/perl-5.10.0@33401;5.11.0;thr=;opt=-O2;perl_patchlevel=
perl/pXZ43Pl/perl-5.10.0@33409;5.11.0;thr=;opt=-O2;perl_patchlevel=              FAIL
perl/p5BztI8/perl-5.10.0@33411;5.11.0;thr=;opt=-O2;perl_patchlevel=              FAIL
perl/paD9wDz/perl-5.10.0@33423;5.11.0;thr=;opt=-g;perl_patchlevel=33423
perl/pRu8vDi/perl-5.10.0@33450;5.11.0;thr=define;opt=-O2;perl_patchlevel=33450
perl/pq7Gob0/perl-5.10.0@33451;5.11.0;thr=;opt=-O2;perl_patchlevel=33451         FAIL
perl/pPLJssF/perl-5.10.0@33452;5.11.0;thr=;opt=-O2;perl_patchlevel=33452         FAIL 0.78

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=33926

2008-03-08  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* This I get with maint-5.8@33449:

WARNING: DBIx::Class::StartupCheck: This version of Perl is likely to exhibit
extremely slow performance for certain critical operations.
Please consider recompiling Perl.  For more information, see
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=196836 and/or
http://lists.scsys.co.uk/pipermail/dbix-class/2007-October/005119.html.
You can suppress this message by setting DBIC_NO_WARN_BAD_PERL=1 in your
environment.

	* Data::Structure::Util broke somewhere 24650..24661

  CPAN.pm: Going to build F/FO/FOTANGO/Data-Structure-Util-0.12.tar.gz

This module requires Module::Build to install itself.
  Install Module::Build from CPAN? [y] 

	Aha. This is a special Module::Build silliness that calls CPAN
	recursively to install Module::Build::Compat. If you say no, it dies.

	update 2008-06-12 akoenig : what's the politically correct way to deal
	with this Makefile.PL nowadays? Large Module::Build::Compat thread at
	http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl5.porters/2008/01/msg133202.html
	(just a random point in the middle), no conclusion there. My conclusion:
	install Module::Build really early and never see this discussion again.
	And if Module::Build cannot be built? When this happens it will be fixed
	within days or we can force install it and with 5.10 this is moot.

	Nope, changing mind again. If there is no reason to use "passthrough",
	they really should use "traditional", the only sane option when there is
	no special reason why you'd absolutely need Module::Build.

2008-03-05  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* PIJLL/DateTime-Format-Epoch-0.11.tar.gz has both fails and passes. 64bitint?

	33008 MIX  no64bitint -O2 nothreads
	33409 PASS 64bitint -O2 nothreads
	33411 PASS 64bitint -O2 nothreads
	33423 MIX  no64bitint -g nothreads
	33430 FAIL no64bitint threads

	http://rt.cpan.org//Ticket/Display.html?id=33816

2008-03-03  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* FreezeThaw is pure perl and is written such that the test goes
	somewhere out of reach, out of memory, unlimited recursion or some such.
	make testdb comes to the last test which is really a large eval and
	there is gets lost. It's definitely only related to Regexp.

ok 27
# 'FrT;@1|/13|(?mi-xs:^abc)'

ok 27
# 'FrT;@1|/13|(?mi-xs:^abc)'
# 'FrT;!0|{>0|$6|Regexp/13|(?mi-xs:^abc)})0|@1|@3|<0|<0|$2|11'

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=33844

	* what is my latest 5.10.1? It could be 33412 but it is 33288:5.10.0::thr=:opt=-g

	* what is my latest 5.8.9? It could be 33424 but it is
	pBxK9vV/perl-5.8.8@33243:5.8.8::thr=:opt=-O2

	* POE-0.9999

	make test TEST_FILES=t/90_regression/cfedde-filter-httpd.t

	FAIL under Test::Simple 0.78 with perl@33409
	PASS under Test::Simple 0.74 with perl@33409
	PASS under Test::Simple 0.74 with perl@33390
	FAIL under Test::Simple 0.78 with perl@33390
	PASS under Test::Simple 0.74 with perl@32642 (5.10.0)
	FAIL under Test::Simple 0.74 with perl@32642 (5.10.0)

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=33768

2008-03-01  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* SAPER/CPAN-Dependency-0.12 hangs:

>sand@k75:~/CPAN-SVN% ps -A -o user,pid,ppid,start_time,cmd | grep '^sand'|grep 3533
sand      3533  3527 12:26 /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pXTMoRe/perl-5.10.0@33401/bin/perl -w t/02internals.t
sand      7509 27737 12:42 grep 3533
>sand@k75:~/CPAN-SVN% strace -p 3533
Process 3533 attached - interrupt to quit
select(8, [4], NULL, NULL, {278, 608000} <unfinished ...>
Process 3533 detached
>sand@k75:~/CPAN-SVN% kill 3533     
>sand@k75:~/CPAN-SVN% 

	Or, it seems, it has very long timeouts and connects ftp without passive
	or whatever.

	RT 33726

	* I need to keep a pointer to the last BBC articles and I should check
	if all unresolved ones are in RT. Today somebody reported Readonly::XS
	on RT. Should have been there already. Now as a reply in

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=33711

	Nowadays I think I always post BBCs immediately to RT which is the right
	thing.

2008-02-25  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Test::Class 0.28 is a candidate to prove something between 33356 and 33358

	Maybe Test::Simple, Test::More, Test::Builder? Yes.

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=33574

	Is there more to it?

	new fails
    ILYAZ/modules/Math-Pari-2.010709.tar.gz[42]        # the usual
	  PDENIS/Test-Strict-0.09.tar.gz[244]                # Devel::Cover
	  MIYAGAWA/Catalyst-View-JSON-0.23.tar.gz[329]       # broken dependency declaration
	  MTHURN/I18N-Charset-1.388.tar.gz[630]              # random due to skip
	  REDTREE/PDF-API2-Simple-1.1.4u.tar.gz[657]         # flaky ever since
	  ADIE/Test-Class-0.28.tar.gz[847]                   # see above
	  NEELY/Data-Serializer-0.43.tar.gz[939]             # random since months
	  BBC/Email-MIME-CreateHTML-1.026.tar.gz[940]        # dep on Data::Serializer
	  JAYK/Catalyst-Authentication-Store-DBIx-Class-0.104.tar.gz[1010]
                                                       # not reproducable, flaky ever since
	  MIYAGAWA/Apache-GuessCharset-0.03.tar.gz[1266]     # dep on I18N::Charset
	  CHOCOLATE/Scalar-Util-Clone-0.10.tar.gz[1332]      # not bleadperl compat
	  MSTROUT/Devel-REPL-1.002000.tar.gz[1513]           # dep on DDS

2008-02-24  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Curious:

----Program----
eval q{use Devel::LeakTrace 0.05};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../p9aWFUh/perl-5.8.0@17967/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../pUEVfU9/perl-5.8.0@17968/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----

	Also in maint-5.8:

----Program----
eval q{use Devel::LeakTrace 0.05};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../pcZcM34/perl-5.8.0@18079/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../piE8rWS/perl-5.8.0@18080/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----

	Reported on P5P: http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/perl5-porters/2008-02/msg00717.html

	And on RT: https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=33548

	* Spending some tuits on 01.DISABLED.yml

  CPAN.pm: Going to build A/AD/ADAMK/ThreatNet-IRC-0.01.tar.gz

==> ExtUtils::AutoInstall 0.49 required. Install it from CPAN? [Y/n] n
Undefined subroutine &ExtUtils::AutoInstall::_make_args called at inc/Module/Install/AutoInstall.pm - /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.4/Module/Install/AutoInstall.pm line 46, <STDIN> line 1.
Warning: No success on command[/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pyIdwn2/perl-5.10.0@33356/bin/perl Makefile.PL]
  ADAMK/ThreatNet-IRC-0.01.tar.gz
  /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pyIdwn2/perl-5.10.0@33356/bin/perl Makefile.PL -- NOT OK
Running make test
  Make had some problems, won't test
Failed during this command:
 ADAMK/ThreatNet-IRC-0.01.tar.gz              : writemakefile NO '/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pyIdwn2/perl-5.10.0@33356/bin/perl Makefile.PL' returned status 2304

	What for is ExtUtils::AutoInstall required? Where is it documented?


2008-02-23  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* ARTURAZ/Net-Vypress-Chat-0.72.1.tar.bz2

2008-02-12  Andreas Koenig  <k@k78.linux.bogus>

	* Investigate new noise from a
	Lingua-Stem-Snowball-0.941/5.11/Test-Harness-3.09/whatever combination.
	Megabytes of warnings against uc(undef) apparently starting yesterday.

	The error reads:

	Use of uninitialized value $dir in uc at /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pvCr5Qs/perl-5.10.0@33278/lib/5.11.0/TAP/Parser/Grammar.pm line 371.

	RT#33146

2008-02-12  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* 

----Program----
eval q{use Safe::World 0.14};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../pGZP5H3/perl-5.9.2@24965/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../pR6Z2HL/perl-5.9.2@24966/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----

	This was a SEGV at that time but in the meantime it is a 'Unknown
	operator name "threadsv" at ....Safe/World/Compartement.pm line 95.'

	This means that 24966 is of only marginal interest.

2008-02-10  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Wrote a new entry into http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=30145
	to nail down XML::RSS::LibXML which failed again today with

t/items-are-0....................http://my.netscape.com/publish/formats/rss-0.91.dtd:1: parser error : Content error in the external subset
<br />
^
Can't call method "getNamespaces" on an undefined value at /home/sand/.cpan/build/XML-RSS-LibXML-0.3002-NE3qqm/blib/lib/XML/RSS/LibXML.pm line 172.
# Looks like you planned 502 tests but only ran 472.
# Looks like your test died just after 472.
 Dubious, test returned 255 (wstat 65280, 0xff00)
 Failed 30/502 subtests 
^I(less 23 skipped subtests: 449 okay)

	* http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=32841 Would have to consider
	all possible directories on a given system. Compare them if they are at
	all different. Offer the user a chance to resolve things if they are
	different.

	Found more than one CPAN/MyConfig.pm files:

	[1] .../...
	[2] .../...
	[3] .../...

	Please tell me which one I shall use.

	* http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=32525: sent me a nice patch
	to make the listings prettier by using representative module names for
	the distros that have one so instead of this:

App::Prove                     3.07      3.08  ANDYA/Test-Harness-3.08.tar.gz
DBD::Gofer::Transport::Base  0.010088  0.010377  TIMB/DBI-1.602.tar.gz

	....we would see

DBI                           1.601     1.602  TIMB/DBI-1.602.tar.gz
Test::Harness                  3.07      3.08  ANDYA/Test-Harness-3.08.tar.gz

	I rolled my own implementation of this idea today that needed less code
	to change. It costs a bit more CPU to sort the raw list of modules and
	the stupid thing is that we sort all, not only those that are being
	displayed finally. But that was always our goal: to display while we go
	so the user gets information as soon as possible. So now the list is
	sorted by the boolean "representative module" and on second order
	alphabetically. This means that after a first pass through the alphabet
	there is a second as in:

XML::SimpleObject::LibXML      0.53      0.60  DBRIAN/XML-SimpleObject-LibXML-0.60.tar.gz
Catalyst::Model::Search::Item     undef      0.01  MRAMBERG/Catalyst-Model-Search-0.01.tar.gz


2008-02-09  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Slaven suspects a misbehaviour of the new recursion detection. He
	encountered it with Tcl.

	* cpantesters website seems to have stalled. Reported to Robert.

2008-02-08  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Frank asks me to investigate this based on program which is already in
	rt.perl.org since Jan 8.

	$p -Itests -MUnknownError

31253:5.9.5::thr=:opt=-g
Global symbol "$asd" requires explicit package name at tests/UnknownError.pm line 8.
BEGIN not safe after errors--compilation aborted at tests/UnknownError.pm line 9.
Compilation failed in require.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted.
31384:5.9.5::thr=:opt=-g
Unknown error
Compilation failed in require.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted.

	Wrote a call_UnknownError.pl. The UnknownError.pm was already there.
	Apparently I was disturbed when running it the first time.

----Program----
my $out = `'$^X' -Itests -MUnknownError 2>&1`;
$out =~ s/at .*$//mg;
print $out;

----Output of .../plx9DAz/perl-5.9.4@31254/bin/perl----
Global symbol "$asd" requires explicit package name 
BEGIN not safe after errors--compilation aborted 
Compilation failed in require.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted.

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../pwiMCxf/perl-5.9.4@31255/bin/perl----
Unknown error
Compilation failed in require.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted.

----EOF ($?='0')----

	Reported to P5P

	* inspired by RT#33004

----Program----
eval q{use Mail::Mbox::MessageParser 1.5};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../paCcXxw/perl-5.9.1@23470/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../prlkihB/perl-5.9.1@23471/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----

	There is a regex written with qr/.../ which is later used within a
	pattern. The -m of the inner pattern was overruled by the outer /m until
	23470 and not overruled in 23471. It's the pattern 'from_pattern' from
	the Config.pm. Fixing this fixes one test, not all. Two more spots to
	patch.

	distroprefs/DCOPPIT.Mail-Mbox-MessageParser.yml

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=33004

2008-02-05  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* need to re-visit OLAF/Net-DNS-0.62.tar.gz, not in RT and not inspected
	closely enough.

	http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/perl5-porters/2008-01/msg01365.html

	* need to find the autobox mail that said something	about
	1.22?

	http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/perl5-porters/2007-12/msg00809.html

	No need to run binary search again. Now in RT:

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=32928

2008-02-03  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Frank Wiegand tells me stories about a bug in AUTOLOAD, version, or
	CPAN.pm.

	http://perlmonks.org/?node_id=665058

	After installing a few thousand modules I can reproduce the failure.
	With both 1.9205 and current repository version. I must call 'reload
	index' and then 'r'. An 'r' when loading the data from Metadata
	succeeds.

	Introducing more evals allows me to identify the modules that *trigger*
	the bug:

	'Acme::MetaSyntactic::nethack':
	'Class::Accessor::Classy':
	'Class::DBI':
	'Class::Std':
	'Config::Std':
	'Getopt::Euclid':
	'Smart::Comments':
	'Sub::Installer':
	'Text::Balanced':

	I can then also step through the debugger in the AutoLoader which
	believes it is being called for:

	  DB<<11>> x $AUTOLOAD
0  'main::version::(""'

	Before we reach there we see a version object that looks like so:

	  DB<7> x $have
0  main::version=HASH(0xcc1b6ec)
   'original' => 'v1.0.0'
   'qv' => 1
   'version' => ARRAY(0xcc1b8e4)
      0  1
      1  0
      2  0

	and the debugger displays it as such, so apparently overloading is
	turned off somehow. Because if I construct such an object manually, it
	has overloading and the 'x $have' just does:

	  DB<16> x $have                                       
0  v1.0.0


	I now have it down to:

% /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/p8tnrrm/perl-5.8.0@27144/bin/perl -Ilib -MCPAN -e '
use CPAN;
CPAN::Shell->reload("index");
$TRACEMODULE = CPAN::Shell->expand('Module','Acme::MetaSyntactic::nethack');
$traceinst = $TRACEMODULE->inst_version;
print $traceinst;         
'

	Bombs immediately.

	My perllocal.pod has many candidates that might have changed something.

	A binary search would probably compare two perls and add one module
	after the other to the one that is still sane?

	stop,stop,stop Frank has found the culprit in Safe.pm 2.14.

	* Could it be a way to increase responsibility consciousness among MI
	users: report it as a bug when they distribute an old version? Makes
	little sense in the absence of a good recent version. Ajj, but Chroniton
	distributes 0.63 and that version seems to have not even a check for
	PERL5_CPANPLUS_IS_RUNNING.

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=32984

	* A plan how we could protect the world from recursive usage. Inc the
	counter in the environment, display it, display in which directory we
	are, sleep for a long and increasing time, recommend the user to hit ^C
	and file a bug report. Display the process number. Display a countdown
	when we will continue. Display some sort of stack trace.

2008-02-01  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* 

----Program----
eval q{use Devel::StackTrace 1.15};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of ...pnKj4xI/perl-5.10.0@33021/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of ...pMXqMnB/perl-5.10.0@33022/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----


2008-01-30  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* 

----Program----
eval q{use Net::DNS 0.62};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of ...pm8xeIK/perl-5.10.0@33087/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of ...pjheziE/perl-5.10.0@33088/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----


2008-01-28  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Todo: post to P5P:

----Program----
eval q{use Devel::Cover 0.63};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of ...po5d47x/perl-5.10.0@33071/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of ...pPgv7op/perl-5.10.0@33072/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----

	* bisect for Florian Math::Pari patch

	* bisect for Moritz Lenz the regex thing.


2008-01-21  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Carp-Clan?

cpan[2]> install Carp::Clan 
Running install for module 'Carp::Clan'

  The module Carp::Clan isn't available on CPAN.

  Either the module has not yet been uploaded to CPAN, or it is
  temporary unavailable. Please contact the author to find out
  more about the status. Try 'i Carp::Clan'.

	I find 

     471 2008-01-11 JJORE/Carp-Clan-5.10.meta
   18618 2008-01-11 JJORE/Carp-Clan-5.10.tar.gz

	but it isn't indexed. Probably a decreasing version number case?

2008-01-08  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* (from Slaven) Diese Datei ist leer:

   JHI/Math-Complex-1.41.tar.gz

	und führt dazu, dass mein Smoker abbricht. Könntest du CPAN.pm hier
	beibringen, auch nur den Fehler anzuzeigen und weiterzumachen?

2008-01-07  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Randy/PPM/etc. More thoughts needed.

2007-12-31  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Need a tool to bring all broken distros into a tree shape as to
	eliminate leaves below a common node.

2007-12-24  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* summary

	32707: Data::Alias, Devel::Declare, autobox

	All other fails are not reproducable or dependencies.

	* 32719

new fails
    ZOOLEIKA/RDF-Simple-0.3.tar.gz[332], ASH/DBIx-Class-0.08008.tar.gz[470], ADAMK/CPAN-Index-0.01.tar.gz[473], ADEO/Data-Random-0.05.tar.gz[786], AUDREYT/Encode-IBM-0.07.tar.gz[809], BRICAS/DBIx-Class-Indexed-0.02.tar.gz[908], DAXIM/Yahoo-Photos-0.0.2.tar.gz[995], OVID/Test-JSON-0.02.tar.gz[1089], MAURICE/IPC-ShareLite-0.09.tar.gz[1126], CFRANKS/DBIx-Class-HTML-FormFu-0.01004.tar.gz[1246], BLBLACK/Catalyst-Model-DBIC-Schema-0.20.tar.gz[1251], MRAMBERG/Catalyst-Plugin-Authentication-Store-DBIC-0.09.tar.gz[1252], BRICAS/DBIx-Class-DateTime-Epoch-0.03.tar.gz[1268], JROCKWAY/Task-Catalyst-Tutorial-0.03.tar.gz[1315], CLACO/DBIx-Class-Validation-0.02001.tar.gz[1429], CLACO/DBIx-Class-UUIDColumns-0.02002.tar.gz[1538]

	* 32717

new fails
    NI-S/Tk-HTML-3.003.tar.gz[89], LGODDARD/Tk-Wizard-2.128.tar.gz[128], XMATH/Data-Alias-1.07.tar.gz[132], BSMITH/Devel-EvalContext-0.09.tar.gz[133], MSTROUT/Devel-Declare-0.001006.tar.gz[620], CHOCOLATE/autobox-1.22.tar.gz[625], STEVAN/Moose-Autobox-0.05.tar.gz[626], NEELY/Data-Serializer-0.43.tar.gz[780], BBC/Email-MIME-CreateHTML-1.026.tar.gz[781], RIZEN/Config-JSON-1.1.1.tar.gz[897], CHORNY/Apache-Session-1.85.tar.gz[1104], ANDK/Apache-Session-Counted-1.118.tar.gz[1310], SAMTREGAR/DBIx-Timeout-1.01.tar.gz[1316], ADUITSIS/IPC-Mmap-0.14.tar.gz[1482]

2007-12-22  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* want to have: CPANPLUS::Dist::Deb with CPAN.pm as backend.

2007-12-21  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* on blead@32674. Sigh.

new fails
  RIZEN/Config-JSON-1.1.1.tar.gz[124]
	BRADFITZ/Danga-Socket-1.57.tar.gz[203]
	DMAKI/Danga-Socket-Callback-0.01200.tar.gz[204]
	OLAF/Net-DNS-0.61.tar.gz[258]
	RJBS/Email-Valid-0.179.tar.gz[259]
	MIYAGAWA/Email-Valid-Loose-0.05.tar.gz[261]
	LYOKATO/FormValidator-Simple-0.22.tar.gz[263]
	CLACO/DBIx-Class-Validation-0.02001.tar.gz[264]
	GMPASSOS/Safe-World-0.14.tar.gz[285]
	NODINE/Text-Restructured-0.003037.tar.gz[292]
	CFRANKS/HTML-Widget-1.11.tar.gz[303]
	JJORE/B-Generate-1.11.tar.gz[318]
	MIYAGAWA/Email-Find-0.10.tar.gz[436]
	RCAPUTO/POE-Component-Client-DNS-1.00.tar.gz[455]
	JJORE/AI-Prolog-0.739.tar.gz[584]
	DPAVLIN/Search-Estraier-0.08.tar.gz[748]
	RCAPUTO/POE-Component-Client-Keepalive-0.1000.tar.gz[761]
	RCAPUTO/POE-Component-Client-HTTP-0.82.tar.gz[762]
	DMAKI/Xango-1.08.tar.gz[770]
	JMASON/Mail-SpamAssassin-3.2.3.tar.gz[775]
	PIJLL/DateTime-Format-Epoch-0.11.tar.gz[785]
	NEELY/Data-Serializer-0.43.tar.gz[806]
	BBC/Email-MIME-CreateHTML-1.026.tar.gz[841]
	SARTAK/Jifty-0.71129.tar.gz[856]
	NUFFIN/Test-TAP-Model-0.09.tar.gz[934]
	NUFFIN/Test-TAP-HTMLMatrix-0.09.tar.gz[935]
	GAAL/Task-Smoke-0.16.tar.gz[936]
	BINGOS/POE-Component-Server-IRC-1.24.tar.gz[1009]
	JOHANL/Devel-PerlySense-0.0136.tar.gz[1014]
	VKON/Tcl-0.95.tar.gz[1025]
	LGODDARD/Tk-Wizard-2.124.tar.gz[1101]
	MIYAGAWA/CGI-Untaint-email-0.03.tar.gz[1269]

2007-12-19  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* And on RT #31708 I found Data::Swap as being a binary search help seeker.

----Program----
eval q{use Data::Swap 0.05};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../poY9GSb/perl-5.8.0@22739/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../piOkQwD/perl-5.8.0@22741/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----

	Sent a one-line note to Matthijs. Saying goodbye to the usual BBC
	articles.

2007-12-18  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* 5.10 is out and I find at home this binarysearch

----Program----
eval q{use Apache::DB 0.13};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../pmRlzse/perl-5.8.0@32012/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../p7cydGv/perl-5.8.0@32013/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----

	What's in it? Signalhandler stuff, and yes, the error message is

/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/psSfy01/perl-5.8.0@32032/bin/perl /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/psSfy01/perl-5.8.0@32032/lib/5.10.0/ExtUtils/xsubpp  -typemap /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/psSfy01/perl-5.8.0@32032/lib/5.10.0/ExtUtils/typemap  DB.xs > DB.xsc && mv DB.xsc DB.c
cc -c   -D_REENTRANT -D_GNU_SOURCE -DDEBUGGING -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -I/usr/local/include -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -g   -DVERSION=\"0.13\" -DXS_VERSION=\"0.13\" -fPIC "-I/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/psSfy01/perl-5.8.0@32032/lib/5.10.0/i686-linux-thread-multi-64int/CORE"   DB.c
DB.xs: In function XS_DB_ApacheSIGINT:
DB.xs:59: error: too few arguments to function ApacheSIGINT
make: *** [DB.o] Fehler 1

	What I don't know is how to get the right ifdef. BBC written 2007-12-27.

	* 32631:

new fails
    DROLSKY/HTML-Mason-1.37.tar.gz[821], JESSE/HTTP-Server-Simple-Mason-0.09.tar.gz[822], MJEWELL/docparser/Biblio-Document-Parser-1.10.tar.gz[913], SARTAK/Jifty-0.71129.tar.gz[947], FWILES/Apache-DB-0.13.tar.gz[997], BDFOY/Test-HTTPStatus-1.07.tar.gz[1116], RCLAMP/Devel-LeakTrace-0.05.tar.gz[1324], FLORA/Catalyst-View-Mason-0.15.tar.gz[1337], GWYN/POE-Component-Daemon-0.1006.tar.gz[1340], AUDREYT/Encode-IBM-0.07.tar.gz[1407]

	The new fails are only due to new discoveries by Alexandr Chorny

2007-12-17  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* From Chorny:

----Program----
eval q{use Test::HTTPStatus 1.07};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../p9mfFVw/perl-5.8.0@31020/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../prYHaRP/perl-5.8.0@31021/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----

	But this is crap. We must declare an external dependency on
	Test::Pod::Coverage first. So now we get:

----Program----
eval q{use Test::HTTPStatus 1.07};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../psiUhc4/perl-5.8.0@26486/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../pQD0dEL/perl-5.8.0@26487/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----

	On Apache::DB we will start the binary search between 31941 and 32032.
	BBC written 2007-12-27.

	On Biblio::Document::Parser between 23232 and 23606.

2007-12-16  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Todo: next BBC summary must include today's mail from/to Alexandr
	Chorny.

2007-12-14  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* BSUGARS/IPC-Shareable-0.60.tar.gz needs a bugreport, maybe is a BBC
	"can't use...". On top of that several perls hang on test ipchv.t so
	that I must disable it.

	But, but, but nobody seems to use it, it's latest release is from 2001.
	Just ignore it!

2007-12-13  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Final binsearch on P5NCI:

----Program----
eval q{use P5NCI 0.31};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../pecvOBn/perl-5.8.0@32401/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../pbMBeR9/perl-5.8.0@32405/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=27963

	* Bug: I just did a 'fforce get' on modperl followed by a 'install'. The
	install tried to apply the patch a second time and then quickly failed
	because apparently the "install" attribute wasn't cleared. Eeek. Low
	prio because 'fforce get' is a bit of nonsense on the user side (it
	seems).

2007-12-12  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* P5NCI may need a binary search where it *started* to work. Depends
	what chromatic wants to know. Ticket 27963. 32395 fails, 32444 passes
	tests. DONE.

2007-12-11  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* ALERT

2007-12-10T07:35  perl  32603   25  DAGOLDEN/CPAN-Reporter-1.06.tar.gz  NOT OK
2007-12-09T16:21  perl  32601   25  DAGOLDEN/CPAN-Reporter-1.06.tar.gz  OK

	It cannot be perl because the changes were .... 

32603 on 2007/12/10 by craigb@craigb-brianor

	Fix uninitialized pointer bug in VMS version of readdir() when
	case preservation feature is enabled.

32602 on 2007/12/09 by craigb@craigb-brianor

	Tolkien quote for vms/vms.c.

	autobundle? No, I think it is Test-Harness 3.05. Trying on PAUSE with 32602

	FIXED by David in 1.0601
	
2007-12-10  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* ELLIOTJS via RT has brought evidence about CPAN.pm failures on solaris

2007-12-09  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Test::Harness 3.04 failing when Encode not installed?

t/unicode.........................
#   Failed test 'Unicode smiley (script): value for description matches'
#   at t/unicode.t line 111.
Wide character in print at t/lib/Test/Builder.pm line 1266.
#          got: 'Everything is fine âº'
#     expected: 'Everything is fine %Gâº%@'
# Looks like you failed 1 test of 20.
 Dubious, test returned 1 (wstat 256, 0x100)
 Failed 1/20 subtests

	Haven't seen this before.

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=31314 and fixed.

	* Jifty failed on IPC::PubSub::Cache::Memcached: Can't locate
	Cache/Memcached.pm. Looks like somebody forgot a dependency decl.

	In the Jifty dependency preparations I see only IPC::PubSub and
	Cache::Cache but no Memchache stuff. The full error states:

	Cannot load backend module: IPC::PubSub::Cache::Memcached: Can't locate Cache/Memcached.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /home/sand/.cpan/build/Jifty-0.71129-LHzsQe/inc /home/sand/.cpan/build/Jifty-0.71129-LHzsQe/blib/lib /home/sand/.cpan/build/Jifty-0.71129-LHzsQe/blib/arch /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/p0klOEE/perl-5.8.0@32600/lib/5.10.0/i686-linux /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/p0klOEE/perl-5.8.0@32600/lib/5.10.0 /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/p0klOEE/perl-5.8.0@32600/lib/site_perl/5.10.0/i686-linux /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/p0klOEE/perl-5.8.0@32600/lib/site_perl/5.10.0 . /home/sand/.cpan/build/Jifty-0.71129-LHzsQe/lib Jifty::ClassLoader=HASH(0x8b21e68) Jifty::ClassLoader=HASH(0x8b245a8) Jifty::ClassLoader=HASH(0x8b24358) Jifty::ClassLoader=HASH(0x8b25778) Jifty::ClassLoader=HASH(0x96c9790) Jifty::ClassLoader=HASH(0x96cb800) Jifty::ClassLoader=HASH(0x96cbe20) Jifty::ClassLoader=HASH(0x972f5a8) /home/sand/.cpan/build/Jifty-0.71129-LHzsQe/lib) at /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/p0klOEE/perl-5.8.0@32600/lib/site_perl/5.10.0/IPC/PubSub/Cache/Memcached.pm line 5.

	and happens during t/04-test_file


2007-12-08  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* New BBC candidate

----Program----
eval q{use Test::Class 0.25};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../pykQRSb/perl-5.8.0@32581/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../pvgC1Ko/perl-5.8.0@32582/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----

	We have many other victims between 32580 and now but most of them are
	shaky things that have already exhibited random behaviour in the past.

	XML::RSS::LibXML                     ok
	DBIx::Timeout                        ok
	XML::RSS::Liberal                    ok
	Net::FTP::Common                     ok
	WebService::Bloglines                ok
	Getopt::Attribute                    not ok
	Module::Changes                      not ok (dependency of Getopt::Attribute)
	CGI-Session                          not ok but only due to SKIPs ok on 32980
	Log-Dispatch-Config                  ok
	POE-Component-Logger                 ok
	POE-Component-MessageQueue           ok
  Attribute-Types                      not ok
	Attribute::Overload                  not ok
	Finance-Currency-Convert-WebserviceX ok
	Data-Currency                        ok
	SVG-Plot                             not ok but was not ok before too
	HTML::GMap                           not ok (dependency of CGI::Session)
	CGI-Application-Plugin-Session       not ok (dependency of CGI::Session)

	#32582 (Attribute::Handlers) breaks Test::Class, Getopt::Attribute,
	Attribute::Types, Attribute::Overload and more. Shall I write a BBC on
	it or is there something in the pipeline?

	I wrote a BBC and then quickly somebody provided a fix (he had not even
	noticed my posting). So forget it.

2007-12-06  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Alias says: "YAML::Tiny is quite clear about what it is, a module that
	supports reading and writing of the block-mode JSON-subset of the YAML
	specification."

	mauzo writes a more complete spec:

Perl doesn't have a formal spec, either, yet it seems to acquire its fair share of bugs :).

YAML::Tiny has a perfectly decent (informal, implicit) spec:

   1. if write_string is passed any Perl data structure consisting only of unmagical scalars, arrays and hashes, produce a spec-compliant YAML document representing it which can be parsed by YAML::Tiny or any more complete YAML parser;
   2. if write_string is passed any other Perl data structure, report an error saying so;
   3. if read_string is passed any spec-compliant YAML document, either
         1. parse that document correctly and return the corresponding Perl data structure, or
         2. report an error that this document is unsupported and a more complete parser should be used;
   4. if read_string is passed anything that isn't a spec-compliant YAML document, report an error saying so.

Any other behaviour, such as Adam has just fixed, is a bug. The only thing that might be useful is documentation of which cases get 3.1 and which get 3.2.

	I must write a RT ticket demanding these specs become part of the manpage.

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=31275 where Alias say "A challenge"

	* off topic: http://use.perl.org/~pmichaud/journal/35049

	patrick on state of perl6/parrot

2007-12-04  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Feature request to David Golden: turn on/off cc_author via
	distroprefs. How?

2007-12-02  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Gtk2 has one single PASS. It fails on 27002 more or less the same way
	as with current 5.10. It fails on 23023 because Glib fails there. Maybe
	it would be interesting to find the place in history when Glib started
	working and then to run Gtk2 through that version. Just a binarysearch
	without --build should do.

----Output of .../p4eJlzo/perl-5.8.0@25733/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../pdv4QaU/perl-5.8.0@25948/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----

	Perfect! The error summary with 25948 is shorter than the one with 5.10.

	Wohoo, on "look" the DISPLAY isn't set, of course. But then the test
	succeeds just fine:

DISPLAY=:121 make test TEST_FILES="t/GdkDisplayManager.t" TEST_VERBOSE=1
PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pdv4QaU/perl-5.8.0@25948/bin/perl "-MExtUtils::Command::MM" "-e" "test_harness(1, 'blib/lib', 'blib/arch')" t/GdkDisplayManager.t
t/GdkDisplayManager......
1..4
ok 1 - The object isa Gtk2::Gdk::DisplayManager
ok 2
ok 3
ok 4 - The object isa Gtk2::Gdk::Device
ok
All tests successful.
Files=1, Tests=4,  1 wallclock secs ( 0.02 usr  0.00 sys +  0.25 cusr  0.01 csys =  0.28 CPU)
Result: PASS

	But from 'test Gtk2' in the CPAN shell I get:

t/GdkDisplayManager..................The application 'GdkDisplayManager.t' lost its connection to the display :121.0;
most likely the X server was shut down or you killed/destroyed
the application.
 Dubious, test returned 1 (wstat 256, 0x100)
 No subtests run 
t/GdkDnd.............................Gdk-WARNING **: Drops for GDK_DRAG_PROTO_ROOTWIN must be handled internally at t/GdkDnd.t line 100.
ok


	So under CPAN shell the connection is lost, under 'make test' tests are
	succeeding? NO, under make test with arguments it works, under make test
	without arguments it fails. NO, it's once again RANDOM TEST RESULTS.

	When I run the command

	DISPLAY=:121 make test TEST_FILES="t/00.Gtk2.t t/01.GtkWindow.t t/02.GtkContainer.t t/Gdk.t t/GdkCairo.t t/GdkColor.t t/GdkCursor.t t/GdkDisplay.t t/GdkDisplayManager.t"

	several times then I get both a success and a failure. But the problem
	case is always the last one.

	AND there's another one that is even more annoying:

DISPLAY=:121 make test TEST_FILES=t/PangoLayout.t
PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pdv4QaU/perl-5.8.0@25948/bin/perl "-MExtUtils::Command::MM" "-e" "test_harness(0, 'blib/lib', 'blib/arch')" t/PangoLayout.t
t/PangoLayout......1/68 Modification of a read-only value attempted at t/PangoLayout.t line 134.
# Looks like you planned 68 tests but only ran 36.
# Looks like your test died just after 36.
t/PangoLayout...... Dubious, test returned 255 (wstat 65280, 0xff00)
 Failed 32/68 subtests 


	If I run it in the debugger it loses track of the debugger context
	completely and I cannot set a breakpoint. At least with 25948. So
	switching to current bleadperl I reach that line and see that the
	argument 23 is sent to some C lib and there it chokes. Not my area of
	interest.

	I made the random test results a ticket:

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=31255

2007-11-30  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* JJORE/overload-eval-0.07.tar.gz fails on 2007-11-28T09:27??

	Also fails on 32032 which was also threaded. Works with many others.

	Trying 30952 which is also threaded. FAIL.

	Trying 27048 which is also threaded. FAIL.

	Trying 23232 which is also threaded. Perl v5.9.4 required--this is only v5.9.2

	Everything before 28317 fails.

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=31139

2007-11-29  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Sepia binary search

----Program----
our $have_warned;
BEGIN { $SIG{__WARN__} = sub { return if $have_warned++; print "suppressing one or more warnings\n" }; }
eval q{use Sepia "0.95_02"};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../pA0wlau/perl-5.8.0@30609/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../pV9JsIn/perl-5.8.0@30610/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----


	* Long time been there, never noticed:

	2007-07-04T01:03  perl  31526   529   JONALLEN/a2pdf-1.13.tar.gz  NOT OK
	2007-07-02T15:26  perl  31515   299   JONALLEN/a2pdf-1.13.tar.gz  OK

	Now I see this has been discussed in this file but no conclusion.

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=28152

	A perl/$^X issue. Voiced myself in the ticket.

2007-11-27  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* PHRED/Apache-Test-1.30.tar.gz has a new dialog that needs to be
	distropreffed.

	This might need further work. Yesterday I saw a dialog despite
	envariable APACHE being set?

	* SEANO/Sepia-0.95.tar.gz might need a binary search. But it is
	problematic because CPAN::Reporter and Sepia have an issue with each
	other so it seems. Twice I have seen a hang after CPAN says
	"CPAN::Reporter loaded". No! What looks like a hang is just something
	taking many minutes. No?

	No, it's just a buggy question/answer game for installing dependencies.
	Somebody seems to have forgotten to set $| or something.

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=30998

2007-11-25  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Schwern posted about RT::Client::REST. Looks interesting.

	http://use.perl.org/~schwern/journal/34967

2007-11-24  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Overlooked this one

	2007-11-07T01:28  perl  32230   282   GAAS/Font-AFM-1.19.tar.gz   NOT OK
	2007-11-06T07:57  perl  32226   919   GAAS/Font-AFM-1.19.tar.gz   OK

	Looks like Test::Harness. 3.00 came out on 11-06. With 32474 and 3.0 I
	see FA fail too.

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=30962

2007-11-23  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* TEVERETT/Class-Prototyped-1.10.tar.gz looks like crying for a binary search help.

----Program----
eval q{use Class::Prototyped 1.10};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../pLNXwon/perl-5.8.0@30979/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../pTP10LN/perl-5.8.0@30980/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----

	BBC? Yes. And ticket. http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=31556

	* Random test failures with re-engine-Plan9:

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=30928

	* DONEILL/MIME-tools-5.425.tar.gz tests hang under 5.6.2

	At about the same time a bleadperl test complained:

	t/Smtpsend.............can't create socket: Address already in use at t/Smtpsend.t line 18.
# Looks like your test died before it could output anything.
 Dubious, test returned 255 (wstat 65280, 0xff00)
 Failed 9/9 subtests 

	So this might be a concurrency issue between the two tests? Sure!

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=30927

	And 12 days ago already the companion

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=30645

	and now stopped with a distropref.

2007-11-22  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Re: [perl #47632] Undef loop while condition, loop code motion, and bad warning line number? 5.10-RC1 + 5.8.8

	Schwern asks for a binary search. DONE

	* My own module?

	2007-10-30T23:51  perl  32204   495  ANDK/MAB2-0.06.tar.gz   NOT OK
	2007-10-30T08:15  perl  32202  1121  ANDK/MAB2-0.06.tar.gz   OK

	t/dualdb.........Could not tie @recs: illegal flag specified to DB->open; Filename => kafka.dualdb, Subname => recno, Mode => 0664, Flags => 524289 at /home/sand/.cpan/build/MAB2-0.06-EfNVot/blib/lib/Tie/MAB2/Dualdb/Recno.pm line 28.

	-rw-r--r-- 1 root root     299 Oct 30 22:30 libdb-dev.list

	Was this the upgrade to libdb 4.6.19-1?

	Or the upgrade to 1.816?

     395 2007-02-04 PMQS/DB_File-1.815.meta
   87656 2007-02-04 PMQS/DB_File-1.815.tar.gz
     395 2007-10-28 PMQS/DB_File-1.816.meta
   87854 2007-10-29 PMQS/DB_File-1.816.tar.gz

	Downgrading to 1.815 does not help. Downgrading to libdb 4.3 does not help either.

	My perl 32147 passes all tests, it has DB_File 1.816 already. I
	re-install 1.816 and re-test Encode::MAB2 and it succeeds again.

	My perl 32208 fails that test, it has 1.816 already. I re-install 1.816
	and re-test Encode::MAB2 and it fails again.

	Everything looks like a perl bug except that between 32202 and 32204
	nothing interesting happened.

	So does the downgrade of libdb only have an effect on newer perls? If
	so, then we will see 32177 and all others I build now succeed.

	I do not understand the reason for that. Reading the output of the perl
	compilation indicates that -ldb is called on the linker for DB_File.so.
	But why is there a -L/usr/local/lib? Dunno, but irrelevant because there
	is no libdb. And DB_File is a dynamic extension that gets stored into
	../../lib/auto/DB_File/DB_File.so. This then gets installed into

	/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pbMhvub/perl-5.8.0@32444/lib/5.10.0/i686-linux-64int/DB_File.pm
	and
	/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pbMhvub/perl-5.8.0@32444/lib/5.10.0/i686-linux-64int/auto/DB_File/DB_File.so

-r-xr-xr-x 1 sand sand 51221 2007-11-22 08:50 /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pbMhvub/perl-5.8.0@32444/lib/5.10.0/i686-linux-64int/auto/DB_File/DB_File.so
-r--r--r-- 1 sand sand 63485 2007-11-22 08:50 /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pbMhvub/perl-5.8.0@32444/lib/5.10.0/i686-linux-64int/DB_File.pm

	Nonono, wrong way down the road. BerkeleyDB is it, not DB_File, right? Yes

                                  'requires' => {
                                                  'BerkeleyDB' => '0.20',
                                                  'Encode' => '1.41'
                                                }

	Now verified with

Get:1 http://k66.linux.bogus testing/main libdb4.6 4.6.21-4 [562kB]
Get:2 http://k66.linux.bogus testing/main libdb-dev 4.6.21-4 [643kB]

	After that reinstalling BerkeleyDB, then testing Encode::MAB2 => FAIL.

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=30926

	* TkCarp has only fails for a while. Last srezic PASS with and first
	srezic FAIL with 5.8.8

    Left:  http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/2007/06/msg504007.html
    Right: http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/2007/10/msg672129.html

    Module Need Have                 Module Need Have       
    ------ ---- -----------          ------ ---- -----------
    Carp   0    1.04                 Carp   0    1.04       
    Tk     0    804.027_500          Tk     0    804.027_501

    Module              Have         Module              Have  
    ------------------- ------       ------------------- ------
    CPAN                1.9102       CPAN                1.9203
    Cwd                 3.24         Cwd                 3.25  
    ExtUtils::CBuilder  0.18         ExtUtils::CBuilder  0.18  
    ExtUtils::Command   1.09         ExtUtils::Command   1.13  
    ExtUtils::Install   1.41         ExtUtils::Install   1.41  
    ExtUtils::MakeMaker 6.32         ExtUtils::MakeMaker 6.36  
    ExtUtils::Manifest  1.48         ExtUtils::Manifest  1.51  
    ExtUtils::ParseXS   2.15         ExtUtils::ParseXS   2.15  
    File::Spec          3.12         File::Spec          3.12  
    Module::Build       0.2806       Module::Build       0.2806
    Module::Signature   0.55         Module::Signature   0.55  
    Test::Harness       2.56         Test::Harness       2.64  
    Test::More          0.70         Test::More          0.70  
    version             n/a          YAML                0.66  
                                     YAML::Syck          0.91  
                                     version             0.7203

	Did 501 break it?

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=30909

2007-11-21  Andreas J Koenig  <akoenig@iconmobile.com>

	* Slaven: Give the LWP::UserAgent a conn cache to incr performance.

	Patch in the mail but still undecided if this is really an improvement.

2007-11-21  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* some encoding change

	2007-11-20T10:28  perl  32412  1240   MIYAGAWA/Web-Scraper-0.22.tar.gz  NOT OK
	2007-11-19T18:21  perl  32405   471   MIYAGAWA/Web-Scraper-0.22.tar.gz  OK

	In the meantime 32405 also fails, I must go back to 32395 for an
	autobundle comparison.

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=30886 (HTML::TreeBuilder::XPath)

	* where is the Gabor page with all the 5.005 modules?

	http://cpantesters.szabgab.com/stats/perl_5.5.5.html

	* V is a module but not indexed (?) what's up?

    4934 2007-11-07 ABELTJE/V-0.13.tar.gz

	??? Mail sent, answer received, needs further processing.

2007-11-18  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* BUG! I just discovered that a success report was sent for Readonly::XS
	after a patch was applied. This was once forbidden and must remain
	forbidden.

	* MAROS/Mail-Builder-1.03.tar.gz seems to hang on 5.6.2 I just ^Ced it.

	It was probably DONEILL/MIME-tools-5.425.tar.gz? See above.

	* Just discovered that we lost JRED recently:

	2007-11-08T16:04  perl  32244   494  JRED/Event-ExecFlow-0.63.tar.gz   NOT OK
	2007-11-07T17:02  perl  32235   969  JRED/Event-ExecFlow-0.63.tar.gz   NOT OK
	2007-11-07T01:28  perl  32230  1282  JRED/Event-ExecFlow-0.63.tar.gz   NOT OK
	2007-11-06T07:57  perl  32226   456  JRED/Event-ExecFlow-0.63.tar.gz   OK
	2007-11-05T13:08  perl  32222   402  JRED/Event-ExecFlow-0.63.tar.gz   OK
	2007-11-04T20:10  perl  32219   124  JRED/Event-ExecFlow-0.63.tar.gz   OK

	and since then 12 more fails out of 12 sessions.

	It's a dependency on AnyEvent. Long day comparing AnyEvent results
	follows. Mail to Marc has been sent. Update 2007-11-25 akoenig : FIXED

	* <URL: http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=30051 >

	Answers Yanick: pdflatex is the culprit littering /tmp. As I didn't find any easy way to...

2007-11-17  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Todo: write a clean_tested() method. Suggests Adam Kennedy:

ah, ok, I understand.
Although if there is dependencies involved, would that also clean A?
Or perhaps we need a clean_all, so that CPAN Testers can just call that each cycle?
Adam K

	* 32327 was a debugging build. I see a strange INC path without blib but
	I see nothing suspect in the two patches 329 and 330 (328 is maintperl).
	And the diff in the autobundles is a bit funny because 327 started
	earlier and finished later, so it is a mix of upgrades and downgrades.

	2007-11-16T13:38  perl  32330   709  YANICK/XML-XPathScript-1.52.tar.gz  NOT OK
	2007-11-15T23:07  perl  32327  1008  YANICK/XML-XPathScript-1.52.tar.gz  OK
	2007-11-14T09:33  perl  32308   325  YANICK/XML-XPathScript-1.52.tar.gz  OK

	Module::Build 0.2808 vs 0.2808_01 is the most likely cause. But no, this
	is it not. I tried it on 32354 which gives still a FAIL and then
	downgraded to M:B 1.2808 and it stayed a FAIL. Upgrading to 0.2808_01
	again does no change things either.

	Ahhh, what does it really mean for a test script when ther is a shebang
	line of

	#!perl -t

	?? What was the exact error message again?

t/04unicode......................Can't locate XML/XPathScript.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pztfddi/perl-5.8.0@32354/lib/5.10.0/i686-linux-64int /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pztfddi/perl-5.8.0@32354/lib/5.10.0 /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pztfddi/perl-5.8.0@32354/lib/site_perl/5.10.0/i686-linux-64int /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pztfddi/perl-5.8.0@32354/lib/site_perl/5.10.0) at t/04unicode.t line 7.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at t/04unicode.t line 7.
# Looks like your test died before it could output anything.
 Dubious, test returned 255 (wstat 65280, 0xff00)
 Failed 11/11 subtests

	So it is the right perl being called but not the module in blib being
	tested.

	So I try it once again with 32308, run the test. UNINSTALL it. Run the
	test again. There we have it. Fails just the same.

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=30796

2007-11-16  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Nicholas says that B::Generate still suffers from an assertion under
	debugging. So I probably need to run a binary search on debugging perls
	for B::Generate. The binary search leads us again to 22314/5 that has
	already gone into a B:Generate BBC, so nothing to shout out.

	* Marek Rouchal has opened a ticket about Module::ExtractUse. Resolved
	in a MakeMaker ticket.

2007-11-15  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Another breakage by Test::Distribution. Hopefully this will be fixed
	in TD 2.00.

	2007-11-11T18:16   maint-5.8   32273   838   SNOWHARE/Unicode-MapUTF8-1.11.tar.gz  NOT OK
	2007-11-11T01:45   perl        32269   320   SNOWHARE/Unicode-MapUTF8-1.11.tar.gz  OK

2007-11-13  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Another BBC article?

	----Program----
	eval q{use B::PerlReq 0.006005};
	print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
	print "\n";

	----Output of .../pDKyJRO/perl-5.8.0@31962/bin/perl----
	OK

	----EOF ($?='0')----
	----Output of .../pdIAoqO/perl-5.8.0@31963/bin/perl----
	N/A

	----EOF ($?='0')----

	Nope, BBC not justified. badly written test obviously.
	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=30717

	Resolved in 0.006006.

	* todo: publish the hvds patches DONE

	* Need to try to fix Danga::Socket with Class::PseudoHash.

        use fields;
        use Class::PseudoHash;
        # $ref = Class::PseudoHash->new;
        $Class::PseudoHash::FixedKeys = 0;

	Nope, does not seem to work.

	* To write a bradfitz special BBC it needs a list of all his modules
	that are broken because of pseudo hashes.

	Danga::Socket is only the lowest-level broken module. As long as it is
	not fixed we cannot even *see* the others (unless we read the source).

	* Test::Distribution is living in a strangely infected neighborhood. E.g. List::Tuples fails with

  NKH/List-Tuples-0.03.tar.gz
  /usr/bin/make test -- NOT OK
//hint// to see the cpan-testers results for installing this module, try:
  reports NKH/List-Tuples-0.03.tar.gz
Running make install
  make test had returned bad status, won't install without force
Failed during this command:
 ATOURBIN/rpm-build-perl-0.6.5.tar.gz         : make_test NO
 ZEV/Test-Dependencies-0.08.tar.gz            : make_test NO
 SMUELLER/Test-Strict-0.08.tar.gz             : make_test NO
 NKH/Carp-Diagnostics-0.03.tar.gz             : make_test NO
 NKH/List-Tuples-0.03.tar.gz                  : make_test NO

	I need Cantrell's website for resolving. AHA: 0% chance of success:)

	Actually this example is exposing the problem that is in the system that
	failing modules with failing dependencies are not reported on
	cpantesters: Carp::Diagnostics has 2 fails but only 2 reports, not more.
	Probably because Test::Dependencies has so many fails. Downgrading to
	Test::Dependencies 0.07 also fails a test but "CPAN::Reporter: test
	results were not valid, Prerequisite missing."

	- B::PerlReq            ...missing.
	- PerlReq::Utils        ...missing.

	B::PerlReq missing in megainstall and a candidate for BBC. Fails with
	blead, succeeds with 5.8.8. Now also Test::Dependencies has a test.

	Update 2007-12-26 : Ticket to Test-Dependencies opened today
	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=31906 But both
	Carp-Diagnostics and List-Tuples are by Nadim and make no sense as it
	seems and I cannot argue over it. Hrm. I can:
	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=31914

	* Lingua::Stem with Test::Harness 3.01 and 2.64 on 32274 broken

t/97_distribution......no such test type: sig
# Looks like your test died before it could output anything.
 Dubious, test returned 255 (wstat 65280, 0xff00)
 No subtests run

  2007-11-11T01:45  perl  32269    939  SNOWHARE/Lingua-Stem-0.83.tar.gz  NOT OK
	2007-11-10T02:38  perl  32262   1151  SNOWHARE/Lingua-Stem-0.83.tar.gz  OK

	cpan[9]> m Test::Distribution
Module id = Test::Distribution
    CPAN_USERID  SRSHAH (Sagar R. Shah <srshah@cpan.org>)
    CPAN_VERSION 1.29
    CPAN_FILE    S/SR/SRSHAH/Test-Distribution-1.29.tar.gz
    UPLOAD_DATE  2007-11-10
    MANPAGE      Test::Distribution - perform tests on all modules of a distribution
    INST_FILE    /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/p4CNbhs/perl-5.8.0@32274/lib/site_perl/5.10.0/Test/Distribution.pm
    INST_VERSION 1.29

	Downgrading to 1.28 fixes that.

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=30687
	
2007-11-11  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* My release of 1.92_52 gives FAILs in 6 of *my* smokes. As the error
	messages mention File::Spec too I wonder if this has to do with a recent
	glitch that I have not yet understood.

	  116743 2007-05-22 KWILLIAMS/PathTools-3.25.tar.gz
    118823 2007-10-14 KWILLIAMS/PathTools-3.25_01.tar.gz

	So 31790 has only 3.25 according to the m command.

	And I get lots of these messages:

Use of uninitialized value $file in string ne at /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pNaGaP6/perl-5.8.0@31790/lib/5.9.5/File/Spec/Unix.pm line 312.
Use of uninitialized value $file in concatenation (.) or string at /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pNaGaP6/perl-5.8.0@31790/lib/5.9.5/File/Spec/Unix.pm line 320.

	And after that failing tests.

	The File/Spec.pm in current bleadperl 32269 is the same, but I do not
	get these errors. Maybe the r command gives us a clue? No, it spits too
	much output.

	So I try an "update" to svk 3446 which was before Rich's patches and the
	failures are the same. I should also try 3275. Indeed, the test failure
	stays which should now have proven that it is not a change in my code
	that broke but something that which I have installed in my smoke perls.

	I should try perls close to 31790: 31613 and 31882. OK and OK. Now I can
	go through diffs in the modules and upgrade until I have the jerk. Fun.
	[...hours later...] This strategy does not lead anywhere.

	32248 has no problem with this test either. But the scope of the problem
	to compare whole trees with hundreds of interdependencies is simply too
	big.

	New idea: CPAN::Test::Dummy::Perl5::Make has been installed on those
	perls, has it not? Yes. And when I uninstall it, all's well.

	* This should become a BBC article:

----Program----
eval q{use Brackup 1.06};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../pDjpgoB/perl-5.8.0@22314/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../prHc4Oy/perl-5.8.0@22315/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----

	

2007-11-08  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Apache::Session failed today on 32235 because Test::Deep was missing.
	seq was 388 and the seq of Test::Deep was 390. The latter was
	successful, don't understand why it was not found by Apache::Session.
	Needs more investigations.

	* t/wmf/read..........
1..2
ok 1
ok 2
ok
You already have a parser for (t/wmf/read.t) at /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pe1S7WD/perl-5.8.0@32235/lib/5.10.0/TAP/Harness.pm line 412

	This happens with Image::MAgick and bleadperl@3223[05] even after I
	fixed the test output of t/setattribute.t.

	* RHANDOM/Template-Alloy-1.009.tar.gz works with 5.9.4, 5.9.5, 5.10.0
	but hangs with 5.8.* during 05_tt_base. I ^Ced all 5.8 tests. 5.6.2 worked again.
	Same for RHANDOM/Template-Parser-CET-0.05.tar.gz, even the test has the same name.

	* [rt.cpan.org #30554] Not possible to upgrade from v1.9101 

	Seems that I need to test with a perl that has no YAML.

2007-11-07  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Net::SSLeay 1.32: make fails with "could not answer a question during the
	dialog" or some such. Fails with 32230, 32226, 32222, 32219, 32216.

	32212 seems different at first sight but then fails too.

	* merejn on P5P:

On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 05:30:34 +0100, andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de
(Andreas J. Koenig) wrote:

> This patch brings bleadperl to 1.9204

Can I please have an option or environment variable or install-time question
to *NOT* ask if it is ok to connect to the internet please?


	* where is the wiki? need to add hvds patches, Data::Dump::Streamer,
	bradfitz, Devel::Cover, etc. to my Sunday posting.

	http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl5/index.cgi

	* need a (v)box without gzip or tar so I can see the tests succeed or fail

2007-11-06  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* (Eric Wilhelm on module build mailing list) I think CPAN has a bug
	which causes it to pass make_arg to ./Build install. (I seem to remember
	having some grief with -j recently.)

	* [rt.cpan.org #30481] Fail Installing New Mail::SpamAssassin 3.2.3

	Need a fresh perl without spamassassin and build&test SpamAssassin as root.

2007-11-05  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Subject: [rt.cpan.org #30481] Failed Test Suite with Mail::SpamAssassin 3.2.3 

	Looks dangerous.

	* http://users.endeworks.jp/~daisuke/code/pl/File-MMagic-XS-0.09003.tar.gz ?

2007-11-03  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* what I want more than anything else before 5.10 is a list of all
	modules that need patching or don't work.

	A first approximation to the list that I really want would be a summary
	of all BBC articles and the state they reached.

	Shit, groups.google finds only 14 hits on "Bleadperl breaks CPAN" in a
	narrow timeframe. So how do I find the older postings?

	xray to the rescue: 373 hits on BBC. Now the list of affected modules.
	"*" is for "not yet investigated". something else for "still relevant"
	and "fixed"

  Unsolved:
    BRYCE/SVG-Metadata-0.28.tar.gz                    http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/perl5-porters/2007-07/msg00996.html
    DMAKI/File-MMagic-XS-0.09002.tar.gz               http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/perl5-porters/2007-11/msg00025.html; only with threads and debugging; 
    DOMIZIO/OOTools-2.21.tar.gz                       http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/perl5-porters/2007-07/msg00432.html
    EDPRATOMO/Algorithm-Permute-0.06.tar.gz           http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/perl5-porters/2007-05/msg00297.html
    HAYASHI/Term-ReadLine-Gnu-1.16.tar.gz             http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/perl5-porters/2006-11/msg00464.html
    ILYAZ/modules/Math-Pari-2.010709.tar.gz           http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/perl5-porters/2006-10/msg00860.html
    JJORE/B-Generate-1.10.tar.gz                      http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/perl5-porters/2007-08/msg00488.html
    MARCEL/Exporter-Simple-1.10.tar.gz                http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/perl5-porters/2007-07/msg00710.html
    MNOONING/Net-Daemon/Net-Daemon-0.43.tar.gz        http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/perl5-porters/2007-10/msg00811.html; only with threads; 
    NAOYA/Hatena-Keyword-0.04.tar.gz                  http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/perl5-porters/2007-05/msg00210.html
    PDCAWLEY/Class-Inner-0.1.tar.gz                   http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/perl5-porters/2007-07/msg00499.html
    PHOENIX/Term-ReadPassword-0.07.tar.gz             http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/perl5-porters/2007-08/msg00183.html
    PJCJ/Devel-Cover-0.61.tar.gz                      http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/perl5-porters/2007-05/msg00861.html
    RCLAMP/Devel-Caller-0.11.tar.gz                   http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/perl5-porters/2007-10/msg00813.html; only with threads;
    RMUHLE/classes-0.943.tar.gz                       http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/perl5-porters/2007-05/msg00351.html
    ROODE/Readonly-XS-1.04.tar.gz                     http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/perl5-porters/2007-07/msg00437.html
    SAMTREGAR/XML-Validator-Schema-1.08.tar.gz        http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/perl5-porters/2007-05/msg00137.html
    SAVA/Encode-IMAPUTF7-1.00.tar.gz                  http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/perl5-porters/2007-06/msg00375.html
    TANIGUCHI/Unicode-RecursiveDowngrade-0.03.tar.gz  http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/perl5-porters/2007-06/msg00498.html
    VKON/Tcl-0.95.tar.gz                              http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/perl5-porters/2007-10/msg00822.html; only with debugging; 

  Tested patches available
    Text::Query                   0.07             http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/perl5-porters/2007-07/msg00434.html
                                                   patch on CPAN: ANDK/patches/Text-Query-0.07-ROBIN-01.patch.gz               
    Unicode::Lite                 0.12             http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/perl5-porters/2007-06/msg00012.html
                                                   patch on CPAN: ANDK/Unicode-Lite-0.12-NWCLARK-01.patch.gz
    XML::Parser                   2.34             http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/perl5-porters/2007-07/msg00662.html
                                                   patch on CPAN: ANDK/patches/XML-Parser-2.34-ANDK-01.patch.gz

  Authors fixed:                    broken           fixed
    Class::Fields                 0.202            0.203
    Class::MOP                    0.40             0.42
    Clone                         0.25             0.28
    DBI                           1.57             1.601
    Data::Alias                   1.03             1.07
    Devel::Size                   0.68             0.69
    JSON                          1.12             1.14
    PerlPoint::Parser             0.451            1.05
    Regexp::Assemble              0.28             0.32
    Rose::HTML::Object::Messages  0.549            0.550               https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=30021
    ShiftJIS::X0213::MapUTF       0.30             0.31
    TAP::Parser                   0.52             0.54

  Bleadperl fixed:                  was broken
    Acme::MetaSyntactic           0.99             fixed in bleadperl
    Best.pm                       0.11             fixed in bleadperl
    Class::Trait                  0.22             fixed in bleadperl
    Contextual::Return           v0.2.1            fixed in bleadperl
    Perl6::Attributes             0.04             fixed in bleadperl
    SQL::Translator               0.08001          fixed in bleadperl
    String::Multibyte             1.05             fixed in bleadperl
    Test::MockObject              1.07             fixed in bleadperl
    Text::WikiFormat              0.78             fixed in bleadperl
    YAML                          0.66             fixed in bleadperl

	* new fails
    CHORNY/Apache-Session-1.84.tar.gz[545], RCLAMP/POE-Component-Server-HTTP-0.09.tar.gz[615], ADUITSIS/IPC-Mmap-0.14.tar.gz[767], ANDK/Apache-Session-Counted-1.118.tar.gz[793], DMAKI/DateTime-Calendar-Japanese-0.06001.tar.gz[930], TEVERETT/Class-Prototyped-1.10.tar.gz[1376], MERLYN/CGI-Prototype-0.9053.tar.gz[1377], MAURICE/IPC-ShareLite-0.09.tar.gz[1443]

	I see that somebody has filled the messages and semaphore space and I
	had to clean them up. Need to watch each of these beasts and write
	Bugreports.

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=30440

2007-11-02  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* /tmp again:

	30425 CatalystX-CRUD                  Cleaning up /tmp directory

	* Today a new 32025 maintperl finished and it has many fails that I have
	not noticed before. See 2007-11-01T02:38. This was due to the glitch
	with disabling Sub-Uplevel. So this should not have caused harm because
	no reports were sent out in such cases.

2007-11-01  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Rethink the recent mail exchange with Barbie about timestamps in the future.

	* Some distro removed the Config.pm of my testing perls so I lost 6 perl
	installations. I removed them immediately and now let only one perl run.

	From the history of sent test reports it seems that Perl-Dist is to blame.

I'm starting cpan for bleadperl@32194 which has a working -V command so must have
a Config.pm. Let me see it:

			% ls -l /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pICDJJz/perl-5.8.0@32194/lib/5.10.0/i686-linux-thread-multi-64int/Config.pm
		-r--r--r-- 1 sand sand 3383 2007-10-26 06:17:43 /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pICDJJz/perl-5.8.0@32194/lib/5.10.0/i686-linux-thread-multi-64int/Config.pm

And copy it away:

			cp /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pICDJJz/perl-5.8.0@32194/lib/5.10.0/i686-linux-thread-multi-64int/Config.pm /tmp/Config.pm.32194

Ah, I see Adam has uploaded a 0.29_02 in the meantime. No mention of an
alert. So let's try it now.

			cpan[6]> install ADAMK/Perl-Dist-0.29_02.tar.gz
		Running make for A/AD/ADAMK/Perl-Dist-0.29_02.tar.gz

			CPAN.pm: Going to build A/AD/ADAMK/Perl-Dist-0.29_02.tar.gz

		CPAN: CPAN::Reporter loaded ok (v1.04)
		Checking if your kit is complete...
		Looks good
		Warning: prerequisite Perl::Dist::Downloads 0.02 not found.
		Writing Makefile for Perl::Dist
		Looking for Inno Setup 5... Failed to find the Program Files directory

		(/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pICDJJz/perl-5.8.0@32194/bin/perl Makefile.PL exited with 0)
		CPAN::Reporter: Makefile.PL result is 'pass', No errors.
		---- Unsatisfied dependencies detected during ----
		----      ADAMK/Perl-Dist-0.29_02.tar.gz      ----
				Perl::Dist::Downloads [requires]
		Running make test
			Delayed until after prerequisites
		Running make install
			Delayed until after prerequisites
		Running install for module 'Perl::Dist::Downloads'
		Running make for A/AD/ADAMK/Perl-Dist-Downloads-0.03.tar.gz
		Checksum for /home/ftp/pub/CPAN/authors/id/A/AD/ADAMK/Perl-Dist-Downloads-0.03.tar.gz ok

			CPAN.pm: Going to build A/AD/ADAMK/Perl-Dist-Downloads-0.03.tar.gz

		Checking if your kit is complete...
		Looks good
		Writing Makefile for Perl::Dist::Downloads
		(/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pICDJJz/perl-5.8.0@32194/bin/perl Makefile.PL exited with 0)
		CPAN::Reporter: Makefile.PL result is 'pass', No errors.
		Installing blib/lib/auto/Perl/Dist/Downloads/mingw-runtime-3.13.tar.gz
		Installing blib/lib/auto/Perl/Dist/Downloads/gcc-g++-3.4.5-20060117-1.tar.gz
		Installing blib/lib/auto/Perl/Dist/Downloads/dmake-4.8-20070327-SHAY.zip
		Installing blib/lib/auto/Perl/Dist/Downloads/gcc-core-3.4.5-20060117-1.tar.gz
		Installing blib/lib/auto/Perl/Dist/Downloads/w32api-3.10.tar.gz
		Installing blib/lib/auto/Perl/Dist/Downloads/mingw32-make-3.81-2.tar.gz
		Installing blib/lib/auto/Perl/Dist/Downloads/binutils-2.17.50-20060824-1.tar.gz
		cp lib/Perl/Dist/Downloads.pm blib/lib/Perl/Dist/Downloads.pm
		Manifying blib/man3/Perl::Dist::Downloads.3
		(/usr/bin/make exited with 0)
		CPAN::Reporter: make result is 'pass', No errors.
			ADAMK/Perl-Dist-Downloads-0.03.tar.gz
			/usr/bin/make -- OK
		Running make test
		PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pICDJJz/perl-5.8.0@32194/bin/perl "-MExtUtils::Command::MM" "-e" "test_harness(0, 'inc', 'blib/lib', 'blib/arch')" t/*.t
		t/01_compile....ok
		t/02_main.......ok
		t/98_pod........skipped
						all skipped: Author tests not required for installation
		t/99_pmv........skipped
						all skipped: Author tests not required for installation
		All tests successful, 2 tests skipped.
		Files=4, Tests=9,  1 wallclock secs ( 0.21 cusr +  0.05 csys =  0.26 CPU)
		(/usr/bin/make test exited with 0)
		CPAN::Reporter: Test result is 'pass', All tests successful.
		Preparing a CPAN Testers report for Perl-Dist-Downloads-0.03
		Sending test report with 'pass' to cpan-testers@perl.org
			ADAMK/Perl-Dist-Downloads-0.03.tar.gz
			/usr/bin/make test -- OK
		Running make install
		Prepending /home/sand/.cpan/build/Perl-Dist-Downloads-0.03-QjvVtv/blib/arch /home/sand/.cpan/build/Perl-Dist-Downloads-0.03-QjvVtv/blib/lib to PERL5LIB for 'install'
		Installing /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pICDJJz/perl-5.8.0@32194/lib/site_perl/5.10.0/Perl/Dist/Downloads.pm
		Installing /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pICDJJz/perl-5.8.0@32194/lib/site_perl/5.10.0/auto/Perl/Dist/Downloads/mingw-runtime-3.13.tar.gz
		Installing /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pICDJJz/perl-5.8.0@32194/lib/site_perl/5.10.0/auto/Perl/Dist/Downloads/gcc-g++-3.4.5-20060117-1.tar.gz
		Installing /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pICDJJz/perl-5.8.0@32194/lib/site_perl/5.10.0/auto/Perl/Dist/Downloads/dmake-4.8-20070327-SHAY.zip
		Installing /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pICDJJz/perl-5.8.0@32194/lib/site_perl/5.10.0/auto/Perl/Dist/Downloads/gcc-core-3.4.5-20060117-1.tar.gz
		Installing /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pICDJJz/perl-5.8.0@32194/lib/site_perl/5.10.0/auto/Perl/Dist/Downloads/w32api-3.10.tar.gz
		Installing /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pICDJJz/perl-5.8.0@32194/lib/site_perl/5.10.0/auto/Perl/Dist/Downloads/mingw32-make-3.81-2.tar.gz
		Installing /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pICDJJz/perl-5.8.0@32194/lib/site_perl/5.10.0/auto/Perl/Dist/Downloads/binutils-2.17.50-20060824-1.tar.gz
		Installing /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pICDJJz/perl-5.8.0@32194/man/man3/Perl::Dist::Downloads.3
		Writing /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pICDJJz/perl-5.8.0@32194/lib/site_perl/5.10.0/i686-linux-thread-multi-64int/auto/Perl/Dist/Downloads/.packlist
		Appending installation info to /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pICDJJz/perl-5.8.0@32194/lib/5.10.0/i686-linux-thread-multi-64int/perllocal.pod
			ADAMK/Perl-Dist-Downloads-0.03.tar.gz
			/usr/bin/make install UNINST=1 -- OK
		Running make for A/AD/ADAMK/Perl-Dist-0.29_02.tar.gz
			Has already been unwrapped into directory /home/sand/.cpan/build/Perl-Dist-0.29_02-uH5Hsi

			CPAN.pm: Going to build A/AD/ADAMK/Perl-Dist-0.29_02.tar.gz

		Installing blib/lib/auto/Perl/Dist/Config.pm
		Installing blib/lib/auto/Perl/Dist/LICENSE.txt
		Installing blib/lib/auto/Perl/Dist/README.w32api
		Installing blib/lib/auto/Perl/Dist/Installed.pm
		Installing blib/lib/auto/Perl/Dist/Packlist.pm
		Installing blib/lib/auto/Perl/Dist/FinalConfig.pm
		Installing blib/lib/auto/Perl/Dist/libnet.cfg
		Installing blib/lib/auto/Perl/Dist/README
		Installing blib/lib/auto/Perl/Dist/Install.pm
		cp lib/Perl/Dist/Asset.pm blib/lib/Perl/Dist/Asset.pm
		cp lib/Perl/Dist/Builder.pm blib/lib/Perl/Dist/Builder.pm
		cp lib/Perl/Dist/Inno/Registry.pm blib/lib/Perl/Dist/Inno/Registry.pm
		cp lib/Perl/Dist.pm blib/lib/Perl/Dist.pm
		cp lib/Perl/Dist/Inno.pm blib/lib/Perl/Dist/Inno.pm
		cp lib/Perl/Dist/Asset/Module.pm blib/lib/Perl/Dist/Asset/Module.pm
		cp lib/Perl/Dist/Asset/Perl.pm blib/lib/Perl/Dist/Asset/Perl.pm
		cp lib/Perl/Dist/Asset/Binary.pm blib/lib/Perl/Dist/Asset/Binary.pm
		cp lib/Perl/Dist/Inno/File.pm blib/lib/Perl/Dist/Inno/File.pm
		cp lib/Perl/Dist/Asset/File.pm blib/lib/Perl/Dist/Asset/File.pm
		cp lib/Perl/Dist/Inno/Icon.pm blib/lib/Perl/Dist/Inno/Icon.pm
		cp lib/Perl/Dist/Asset/Distribution.pm blib/lib/Perl/Dist/Asset/Distribution.pm
		cp script/perldist blib/script/perldist
		/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pICDJJz/perl-5.8.0@32194/bin/perl "-Iinc" "-MExtUtils::MY" -e "MY->fixin(shift)" blib/script/perldist
		Manifying blib/man3/Perl::Dist::Builder.3
		Manifying blib/man3/Perl::Dist.3
		(/usr/bin/make exited with 0)
		CPAN::Reporter: make result is 'pass', No errors.
			ADAMK/Perl-Dist-0.29_02.tar.gz
			/usr/bin/make -- OK
		Running make test
		PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pICDJJz/perl-5.8.0@32194/bin/perl "-MExtUtils::Command::MM" "-e" "test_harness(0, 'inc', 'blib/lib', 'blib/arch')" t/*.t
		t/01_compile..........ok
		t/03_inno_file........ok
		t/04_inno_icon........ok
		t/05_inno_registry....ok
		t/06_inno.............skipped
						all skipped: Not on Win32
		t/07_asset_file.......ok
		t/10_dist_new.........skipped
						all skipped: Not on Win32
		t/11_dist_run.........skipped
						all skipped: Not on Win32
		t/98_pod..............skipped
						all skipped: Author tests not required for installation
		t/99_pmv..............skipped
						all skipped: Author tests not required for installation
		All tests successful, 5 tests skipped.
		Files=10, Tests=41,  8 wallclock secs ( 1.52 cusr +  0.14 csys =  1.66 CPU)
		(/usr/bin/make test exited with 0)
		CPAN::Reporter: Test result is 'pass', All tests successful.
		Preparing a CPAN Testers report for Perl-Dist-0.29_02
		Sending test report with 'pass' to cpan-testers@perl.org
			ADAMK/Perl-Dist-0.29_02.tar.gz
			/usr/bin/make test -- OK
		Running make install
		Prepending /home/sand/.cpan/build/Perl-Dist-0.29_02-uH5Hsi/blib/arch /home/sand/.cpan/build/Perl-Dist-0.29_02-uH5Hsi/blib/lib to PERL5LIB for 'install'
		Can't locate Config.pm in @INC (@INC contains: inc /home/sand/.cpan/build/Perl-Dist-0.29_02-uH5Hsi/blib/arch /home/sand/.cpan/build/Perl-Dist-0.29_02-uH5Hsi/blib/lib /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pICDJJz/perl-5.8.0@32194/lib/5.10.0/i686-linux-thread-multi-64int /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pICDJJz/perl-5.8.0@32194/lib/5.10.0 /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pICDJJz/perl-5.8.0@32194/lib/site_perl/5.10.0/i686-linux-thread-multi-64int /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pICDJJz/perl-5.8.0@32194/lib/site_perl/5.10.0 .) at /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pICDJJz/perl-5.8.0@32194/lib/5.10.0/AutoSplit.pm line 4.
		BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pICDJJz/perl-5.8.0@32194/lib/5.10.0/AutoSplit.pm line 4.
		Compilation failed in require at /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pICDJJz/perl-5.8.0@32194/lib/5.10.0/ExtUtils/Install.pm line 9.
		BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pICDJJz/perl-5.8.0@32194/lib/5.10.0/ExtUtils/Install.pm line 9.
		Compilation failed in require.
		BEGIN failed--compilation aborted.
		make: *** [pure_site_install] Fehler 2
			ADAMK/Perl-Dist-0.29_02.tar.gz
			/usr/bin/make install UNINST=1 -- NOT OK
		Failed during this command:
		 ADAMK/Perl-Dist-0.29_02.tar.gz               : install NO

		cpan[7]> q
		Warning: Configuration not saved.
		Lockfile removed.
		......>sand@k75:~/CPAN
		>sand@k75:~/CPAN-SVN% ls -l /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pICDJJz/perl-5.8.0@32194/lib/5.10.0/i686-linux-thread-multi-64int/Config.pm
		ls: /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pICDJJz/perl-5.8.0@32194/lib/5.10.0/i686-linux-thread-multi-64int/Config.pm: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden

Which means in English: not found. So installing ADAMK/Perl-Dist-0.29_02.tar.gz removes the Config.pm if the installer is owner (which he usually is).

	2007-11-01 akoenig : I have issued above text as a "security alert"
	ticket on RT.cpan.org (#30404), informed the cpan-testers-discussion
	mailing list and removed the two Perl-Dist-0.29_0[12].tar.gz files from
	CPAN.

	* Is it true that apache2 does not build with blead?

2007-10-30  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Today I saw this ugly result:

PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/p6GHBr2/perl-5.8.0@27906/bin/perl "-MExtUtils::Command::MM" "-e" "test_harness(0, 'blib/lib', 'blib/arch')" t/*.t
t/01-sanity..............ok
t/02-runthrough..........panic: free from wrong pool, <F> line 3.
# Looks like your test died just after 13.
t/02-runthrough..........dubious
        Test returned status 255 (wstat 65280, 0xff00)
        after all the subtests completed successfully
t/03-error...............panic: free from wrong pool.
# Looks like your test died just after 3.
t/03-error...............dubious
        Test returned status 255 (wstat 65280, 0xff00)
        after all the subtests completed successfully
t/99_pod-coverage........skipped
        all skipped: Enable TEST_POD environment variable to test POD
t/99_pod.................skipped
        all skipped: Enable TEST_POD environment variable to test POD
t/compat_01-selfcheck....panic: free from wrong pool.
# Looks like your test died just after 2.
t/compat_01-selfcheck....dubious
        Test returned status 255 (wstat 65280, 0xff00)
        after all the subtests completed successfully
t/compat_02-extmagic.....panic: free from wrong pool.
# Looks like your test died just after 2.
t/compat_02-extmagic.....dubious
        Test returned status 255 (wstat 65280, 0xff00)
        after all the subtests completed successfully
Failed Test             Stat Wstat Total Fail  Failed  List of Failed
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
t/02-runthrough.t        255 65280    13    0   0.00%  ??
Failed Test             Stat Wstat Total Fail  Failed  List of Failed
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
t/03-error.t             255 65280     3    0   0.00%  ??
Failed Test             Stat Wstat Total Fail  Failed  List of Failed
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
t/compat_01-selfcheck.t  255 65280     2    0   0.00%  ??
Failed Test             Stat Wstat Total Fail  Failed  List of Failed
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
t/compat_02-extmagic.t   255 65280     2    0   0.00%  ??
2 tests skipped.
Failed 4/7 test scripts, 42.86% okay. 0/21 subtests failed, 100.00% okay.
Files=7, Tests=21,  1 wallclock secs ( 0.76 cusr +  0.10 csys =  0.86 CPU)
  DMAKI/File-MMagic-XS-0.09002.tar.gz
  /usr/bin/make test -- OK

	who wrote the result and who could not read it? Test::Harness 2.57_05
	and CPAN::Reporter (not installed!), so it was me!

	* Bug in File::Temp version checking code. A simple < is wrong, you must
	use CPAN::Version!

	* MLEHMANN/Gtk-Perl-0.7009.tar.gz fails because gtk-config not found or
	something. Installed libgtk1.2-dev. More libraries missing in the next
	round of trial and error.

	* File-MMagic-XS failed on 32195, 32186 which is threaded and debugging.
	I started to watch F:M:X with 31568 but we have one other
	threaded+debugging perl since then: 32032. But yes, 32032 was not a
	regular megainstall. So let's try DMAKI/File-MMagic-XS-0.09002.tar.gz
	with 32032. And on a maintperl? Try 31223.

	Yes, it fails with blead@32032 (panic free from wrong pool), it succeeds
	with maint@31223.

	And it fails for this:

	  MMagic.xs:455: error: expected declaration specifiers	or '...' before '(' token'

	with 27680, 27704, 27705, 27729, 27732, 27733, 27734
	
	It fails with the same panic free from wrong pool on 30953, 30952,
	29353, 28507, 28106, 27906, 27806, 27755, 27741, 27735.

	Next: According to the comment in 27735 we must go back in time before
	27649 and I see a good place at 23232 which is 51 points from 23181
	which is quite a good distance. 23240 would have been the better choice.
	Oh well.

----Program----
eval q{use File::MMagic::XS 0.09002};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../p3g2zXo/perl-5.8.0@26177/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../p2IzPOM/perl-5.8.0@26178/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----

	This is no way possible. 26178 did nothing but remove comments. Ahhh,
	there is an old 27177 from 2005 involved.

----Output of .../pql0Vj4/perl-5.8.0@26176/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../p1BkiZu/perl-5.8.0@26177/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----

	Yes, this is the real thing. BBC article posted to P5P.

2007-10-28  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* watching /tmp is boring and I want to delay the next RT tickets until
	after the next release of File::Temp.

	* I wish I had an overview over all BBC articles and the status they are
	in and links to the articles and the RT tickets and all postings that
	preceded BBC saying something like "23456 breaks Term::ReadLine::Gnu".
	This (at least the still open parts) should find its way into
	perl5100delta.pod. Math::Pari and T:R:G being the most prominent
	victims.

	* Tcl maybe broke around 31941? We do not have the config of our perls
	in the database, so SQL will not do it. We need to find all Tcl=OK for
	perl=debugging. So some grep through all perl-V and all VKON! or so.

	
for d in logs/megainstall.2007{09,10}*.d; do
grep -H " optimize" $d/perl-V.txt | perl -pe 's/\n//'
grep ok= $d/VKON!Tcl-* |& perl -nle 'print /( ok=".+?")/'
done
[...]
logs/megainstall.20070922T1716.d/perl-V.txt:    optimize='-g', ok="OK"
logs/megainstall.20070923T1153.d/perl-V.txt:    optimize='-g', ok="NOT OK"


	This means 31939-31941 and we need a config with optimize=-g. Nonono,
	because 39 and 41 have long since been purged we need to order 40
	directly, then the neighbor and then write the BBC (unless the neighbor
	behaves differently from what we see in the database; which means 41
	must fail).

	31941 is easy peasy. The subject line says exactly what it is doing. But
	is it correct to limit an assertion to debugging mode? Are the two
	extensions doing stupid things? Let's examine the diagnostics. Tcl:

t/call.........Assertion ((svtype)((_svi)->sv_flags & 0xff)) >= SVt_RV failed: file "Tcl.xs", line 647 at t/call.t line 38.
dubious
^ITest returned status 88 (wstat 22528, 0x5800)
DIED. FAILED tests 9-10
^IFailed 2/10 tests, 80.00% okay

	And Coro? 4.13 does not work with 31940.

	31847/31854 MLEHMANN/Coro-3.63.tar.gz from NA to OK
	31682/31684 MLEHMANN/Coro-3.63.tar.gz from OK to NA

	SEGV during test: 31613, 31021, 30019, 29743, 29619

	PL_parser undeclared in State.xs:1111: 29023, 29503, 29537

	As this PL_parser is dependent on 5.9.0 I do not expect that any older perl will now compile

	Try older Coro: 4.11 no, 4.1 no, 4.03 SEGV

	SEGV during test with 4.03: 29537, 28022, 27002, 25229, 24044

	State.xs:263: error: too few arguments to function Perl_pad_push: 23023, 23494, 23768, 23973

	This State.xs:263 thing is even in the oldest Coro, 3.63 and I'm not up
	to searching backpan.

	So I will now have a look at the gdb analysis and then check in maint perl.

Failed to read a valid object file image from memory.
Core was generated by `/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pm5CFa8/perl-5.8.0@32198/bin/perl'.
Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault.
#0  coro_transfer (prev=Cannot access memory at address 0xfffffffc
) at libcoro/coro.c:153
153     }
(gdb) bt
#0  coro_transfer (prev=Cannot access memory at address 0xfffffffc
) at libcoro/coro.c:153
Cannot access memory at address 0x4

	Well. And maintperl? Ahhh, same thing! Stock 5.8.8 has it. 5.8.1 is
	simply too old to understand current Coro code. 22251(5.8.3) has the
	SEGV too. So no BBC in here.
	
	* Bugreport to self: File::Temp needs a minimum of 0.14 if we use the
	object interface. FIXED

	* Devel-Caller poking around.

	30955:

t/Devel-Caller....ok 1/72
#   Failed (TODO) test 'with lexical $foo'
#   at t/Devel-Caller.t line 36.
#          got: 'GLOB(0x8319b70)'
#     expected: 'SCALAR(0x840c250)'

#   Failed (TODO) test 'with lexical @foo'
#   at t/Devel-Caller.t line 37.
#          got: 'SCALAR(0x843b3a8)'
#     expected: 'ARRAY(0x84417fc)'

#   Failed (TODO) test 'with lexical %foo'
#   at t/Devel-Caller.t line 38.
#          got: 'GLOB(0x843b268)'
#     expected: 'HASH(0x8441824)'
Assertion ((svtype)((shplep)->sv_flags & 0xff)) == SVt_PVGV || ((svtype)((shplep)->sv_flags & 0xff)) == SVt_PVLV failed: file "lib/Devel/Caller.xs", line 49 at /home/sand/.cpan/build/Devel-Caller-0.11-JPp6H1/blib/lib/Devel/Caller.pm line 32.
# Looks like you planned 72 tests but only ran 43.
# Looks like your test died just after 43.
t/Devel-Caller....dubious
        Test returned status 255 (wstat 65280, 0xff00)
DIED. FAILED tests 44-72
        Failed 29/72 tests, 59.72% okay

	32195:

t/Devel-Caller....
#   Failed (TODO) test 'with lexical $foo'
#   at t/Devel-Caller.t line 36.
#          got: 'GLOB(0x838b8d0)'
#     expected: 'SCALAR(0x83a47b0)'

#   Failed (TODO) test 'with lexical @foo'
#   at t/Devel-Caller.t line 37.
#          got: 'SCALAR(0x84af790)'
#     expected: 'ARRAY(0x84b6690)'

#   Failed (TODO) test 'with lexical %foo'
#   at t/Devel-Caller.t line 38.
#          got: 'GLOB(0x84af678)'
#     expected: 'HASH(0x84b66b8)'
dubious
        Test returned status 0 (wstat 11, 0xb)
DIED. FAILED tests 44-72
        Failed 29/72 tests, 59.72% okay



	Ah, das heisst doch coredump, oder?

% gdb /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pbCbNp9/perl-5.8.0@32195/bin/perl core 
GNU gdb 6.6.90.20070912-debian
Copyright (C) 2007 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later <http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>
This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.  Type "show copying"
and "show warranty" for details.
This GDB was configured as "i486-linux-gnu"...
Using host libthread_db library "/lib/i686/cmov/libthread_db.so.1".

warning: Can't read pathname for load map: Input/output error.
Reading symbols from /lib/i686/cmov/libnsl.so.1...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib/i686/cmov/libnsl.so.1
Reading symbols from /lib/i686/cmov/libdl.so.2...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib/i686/cmov/libdl.so.2
Reading symbols from /lib/i686/cmov/libm.so.6...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib/i686/cmov/libm.so.6
Reading symbols from /lib/i686/cmov/libcrypt.so.1...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib/i686/cmov/libcrypt.so.1
Reading symbols from /lib/i686/cmov/libutil.so.1...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib/i686/cmov/libutil.so.1
Reading symbols from /lib/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0
Reading symbols from /lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6
Reading symbols from /lib/ld-linux.so.2...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib/ld-linux.so.2
Reading symbols from /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pbCbNp9/perl-5.8.0@32195/lib/site_perl/5.10.0/i686-linux-thread-multi-64int/auto/PadWalker/PadWalker.so...done.
Loaded symbols for /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pbCbNp9/perl-5.8.0@32195/lib/site_perl/5.10.0/i686-linux-thread-multi-64int/auto/PadWalker/PadWalker.so
Reading symbols from /home/sand/.cpan/build/Devel-Caller-0.11-4u9D7a/blib/arch/auto/Devel/Caller/Caller.so...done.
Loaded symbols for /home/sand/.cpan/build/Devel-Caller-0.11-4u9D7a/blib/arch/auto/Devel/Caller/Caller.so
Failed to read a valid object file image from memory.
Core was generated by `/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pbCbNp9/perl-5.8.0@32195/bin/perl'.
Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault.
#0  0xb7f7b51c in glob_out (sigil=36 '$', op=0x84c2cc8, want_name=0)
    at lib/Devel/Caller.xs:49
49          case '$': ret = (SV*) GvSV(gv); break;


	Hey, it even has debugging symbols. But what's that 'Failed to read a
	valid object file image from memory.'?


	27705:

/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pBY7a0s/perl-5.8.0@27705/bin/perl Build --makefile_env_macros 1 test
t/Devel-Caller....ok 1/72                                                    
#   Failed (TODO) test 'with lexical $foo'
#   in t/Devel-Caller.t at line 36.
#          got: 'GLOB(0x82bac48)'
#     expected: 'SCALAR(0x839aedc)'

#   Failed (TODO) test 'with lexical @foo'
#   in t/Devel-Caller.t at line 37.
#          got: 'SCALAR(0x83f58c0)'
#     expected: 'ARRAY(0x8401304)'

#   Failed (TODO) test 'with lexical %foo'
#   in t/Devel-Caller.t at line 38.
#          got: 'GLOB(0x83f5758)'
#     expected: 'HASH(0x840132c)'
t/Devel-Caller....dubious                                                    
        Test returned status 0 (wstat 11, 0xb)
DIED. FAILED tests 44-72
        Failed 29/72 tests, 59.72% okay


	Core dump looks the same.

	27048:

	Same thing, core dump without symbols:

(gdb) bt
#0  0xb7f39941 in glob_out ()
   from /home/sand/.cpan/build/Devel-Caller-0.11-K2jwTc/blib/arch/auto/Devel/Caller/Caller.so
#1  0xb7f39eb4 in XS_Devel__Caller__called_with ()
   from /home/sand/.cpan/build/Devel-Caller-0.11-K2jwTc/blib/arch/auto/Devel/Caller/Caller.so
#2  0x080d090b in Perl_pp_entersub ()
#3  0x080c85a9 in Perl_runops_standard ()
#4  0x0806559b in perl_run ()
#5  0x0806034d in main ()

	16500:

	Ahh, PadWalker 1.5 denies working with 5.7.3, demands minimum 5.8.2

	19367:

	Everything like in 27048 and the others above.

	17706:

	PadWalker 1.5 does not pass its own tests:

t/test........FAILED tests 9, 15
        Failed 2/15 tests, 86.67% okay
t/tt..........FAILED tests 3-4
        Failed 2/5 tests, 60.00% okay

	I do a 'force install' on it. I then have to install Module::Build and
	ExtUtils::CBuilder and then I can install Devel::Caller and it tests OK:

cc -shared -L/usr/local/lib -o blib/arch/auto/Devel/Caller/Caller.so lib/Devel/Caller.o
Manifying blib/lib/Devel/Caller.pm -> blib/libdoc/Devel::Caller.3
  RCLAMP/Devel-Caller-0.11.tar.gz
  /usr/bin/make -- OK
Warning (usually harmless): 'YAML' not installed, will not store persistent state                                                                               
Running make test
/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pY6kBLf/perl-5.8.0@17706/bin/perl Build --makefile_env_macros 1 test
t/Devel-Caller....ok
        26/72 unexpectedly succeeded
All tests successful (26 subtests UNEXPECTEDLY SUCCEEDED).
Files=1, Tests=72,  0 wallclock secs ( 0.09 cusr +  0.01 csys =  0.10 CPU)
  RCLAMP/Devel-Caller-0.11.tar.gz
  /usr/bin/make test -- OK
Warning (usually harmless): 'YAML' not installed, will not store persistent state                                                                               

	A few minutes later I have installed several other modules for a
	frictionless binary search and these programs then find a Devel::Caller
	that does not pass its own test anymore. Why?

	I remove the installation and reinstall with ./installperl from the
	build directory. I install as above the three PadWalker, M:B and EU:CB

	I see Devel::Caller working again. I make a backup or this tree. I
	re-run './Build test' several times in the Devel-Caller-0.11-iL3qS5/
	directory, always success.

	Now I try to install the Bundle::CPANxxl piece by piece. YAML::Syck
	fails. IO::Tty OK. Expect OK. YAML fails. Test::Harness OK.

% ./Build test
t/Devel-Caller....ok                                                         
        26/72 unexpectedly succeeded
TODO PASSED tests 12-14, 44-66

All tests successful (26 subtests UNEXPECTEDLY SUCCEEDED).
Passed TODO      Stat Wstat TODOs Pass  List of Passed
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
t/Devel-Caller.t               26   26  12-14 44-66
Files=1, Tests=72,  0 wallclock secs ( 0.07 cusr +  0.03 csys =  0.10 CPU)

	Arrrrgrrrr, I misread this as a fail in my previous look at the terminal.

	18554:

	PadWalker passes its tests but D:C dumps core

	18037:

	PadWalker fails the two tests mentioned above and I force the install.
	Devel::Caller passes its tests.

	18300:

	PadWalker is installed, so must have passed its test. D:C has its SEGV.

	18150:

	Padwalker fails as above. force install. D:C SEGV.

	18078:
	
	Padwalker fails as above. force install. D:C SEGV.

	18057:
	
	Padwalker fails as above. force install. D:C SEGV.

	18048:

	Padwalker fails as above. force install. D:C SEGV.

	18047: no SEGV

2007-10-27  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Net-Daemon's recent FAILS under threads seems to be due to the way the
	old Thread.pm has now become a compatibility layer. Its t/thread.t tests

if (!eval { require Thread; my $t = Thread->new(sub { }) }) {
    print "1..0\n";
    exit 0;
}

	The compat layer seems to have started working between 30910 and 32032:

% for p in `binsearchaperl --show-cache  --bounds 27048-33000 --apcdir /home/src/perl/repoperls/APC --prefix /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls --cachefilter tests/filter-threaded.pl `; do
$p -MThread -e 'print substr($^X,64), ": ", eval{Thread->new(sub { })} ? "" : "not ", "ok\n"'
done 2>/dev/null
@27048/bin/perl: ok
@29353/bin/perl: not ok
@30910/bin/perl: not ok
@31500/bin/perl: ok
@32032/bin/perl: ok
@32174/bin/perl: ok
@32186/bin/perl: ok
@32194/bin/perl: ok
@32195/bin/perl: ok

	but probably not good enough to run the whole code in t/thread.t.

	I would guess that somewhere between 27048 and 29353 the compatibility
	layer broke heavily and somewhere between 30910 and 31500 they
	fixed it a bit. 30955 was the last change to Thread.pm. The fix for our
	minimal testcase came a bit before that:

----Program----
require Thread;
print eval{Thread->new(sub { })} ? "ok\n" : "not ok\n";

----Output of .../pCY4xFO/perl-5.8.0@30952/bin/perl----
not ok

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../pQ8RfLX/perl-5.8.0@30953/bin/perl----
ok
Perl exited with active threads:
        1 running and unjoined
        0 finished and unjoined
        0 running and detached

----EOF ($?='0')----

----Program----
require Thread;
print eval{Thread->new(sub { })} ? "ok\n" : "not ok\n";

----Output of .../ppYBvaY/perl-5.8.0@27704/bin/perl----
ok
A thread exited while 2 threads were running.

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../pBY7a0s/perl-5.8.0@27705/bin/perl----
not ok

----EOF ($?='0')----

	Running a Net::Daemon 0.43 comare between 30952 and 53 shows the
	equivalent result. Now let's see for Devel-Caller and Sub-Multi.
	Devel-Caller needs a separate investigation (fails on both 3095[23]).
	Now I discover the dependency chain of Sub-Multi. I see that
	Devel::LexAlias depends on Devel-Caller. And Data::Bind depends on
	Devel::LexAlias and Sub::Multi depends on Data::Bind. So Sub::Multi can
	be dropped from further investigation.

	Note that we have not yet looked which construct it is that breaks in
	the test. So it might be interesting to look if 27704 was still ok. Yes,
	it passes all tests and does not skip the t/thread.t.

	BBC article is posted.

	* /tmp again

	30297 HTML-Display                            Cleaning up /tmp directory

2007-10-26  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* mod_perl also broke recently. Between 32090 and 32101. And it suddenly
	worked again in 32192 which was a nothreads nodebugging build without
	relocatable inc. nothing obvious, of course.

	I made a autobundle for 32085. And 32108. The diffs are huge.

	/home/sand/.cpan/Bundle/Snapshot_2007_10_26_0[01].pm

	Nono, that's something entirely different. The test server cannot be
	started and nothing's there that would tell me an error message. I have
	already cited the error message below but I repeat

/home/src/www/apache/apache/apache_1.3.37/src/httpd -f `pwd`/t/conf/httpd.conf -X -d `pwd`/t &
httpd listening on port 8529
will write error_log to: t/logs/error_log
letting apache warm up...\c
[Sat Oct 27 13:24:44 2007] [error] Can't locate lib.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /home/src/www/apache/apache/apache_1.3.37/lib/5.10.0/i686-linux-thread-multi-64int /home/src/www/apache/apache/apache_1.3.37/lib/5.10.0 /home/src/www/apache/apache/apache_1.3.37/lib/site_perl/5.10.0/i686-linux-thread-multi-64int /home/src/www/apache/apache/apache_1.3.37/lib/site_perl/5.10.0 /home/sand/.cpan/build/mod_perl-1.30-zALo0v/t/ /home/sand/.cpan/build/mod_perl-1.30-zALo0v/t/lib/perl) at /home/sand/.cpan/build/mod_perl-1.30-zALo0v/t//docs/startup.pl line 8.\nBEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /home/sand/.cpan/build/mod_perl-1.30-zALo0v/t//docs/startup.pl line 8.\nCompilation failed in require at (eval 2) line 1.\n
Syntax error on line 62 of /home/sand/.cpan/build/mod_perl-1.30-zALo0v/t/conf/httpd.conf:
Can't locate lib.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /home/src/www/apache/apache/apache_1.3.37/lib/5.10.0/i686-linux-thread-multi-64int /home/src/www/apache/apache/apache_1.3.37/lib/5.10.0 /home/src/www/apache/apache/apache_1.3.37/lib/site_perl/5.10.0/i686-linux-thread-multi-64int /home/src/www/apache/apache/apache_1.3.37/lib/site_perl/5.10.0 /home/sand/.cpan/build/mod_perl-1.30-zALo0v/t/ /home/sand/.cpan/build/mod_perl-1.30-zALo0v/t/lib/perl) at /home/sand/.cpan/build/mod_perl-1.30-zALo0v/t//docs/startup.pl line 8.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /home/sand/.cpan/build/mod_perl-1.30-zALo0v/t//docs/startup.pl line 8.
Compilation failed in require at (eval 2) line 1.

done

	I found the lib.pm that should be found at
	/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pFAmPwI/perl-5.8.0@32085/lib/5.10.0/i686-linux-64int
	and indeed this is missing in the above list.

	Maybe it is because of relocateableinc? Not directly, of course, because
	we have had it working for 32085 and do not have it working for 32085
	now. So to compare autobundles we would first need a perl that currently
	correctly builds and tests mod_perl.

	32059 nowadays has the same problem. 32032 ditto. I untar the apache
	tarball once again and retry with 32032. Same result. 32009 was built on
	Oct 3 and I want to see the logs really, really exactly as they were.
	And what do I find? The same results but at that time CPAN::Reporter
	reported OK although so many tests were not run. A very interesting
	discovery. Probably this is just thanks to Test::Harness 2.99 now
	popping up?

	I'll now skip back in time and visit 31824 (if possible). It was the
	first perl I built with relocateableinc and it reported OK on mod_perl.
	Of course it also has the same bug with mod_perl 1.30. CPAN::Reporter
	reports (and reported on 2007-09-09) UNKNOWN in this case. But it got
	installed and make install was OK, so I did not discover the bug.

	Next stop in our time travel shall bring us to 31790 (2007-09-05T01:07).
	It was the last perl without relocateableinc. And all tests run and
	pass. Cheerio!

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=30300

	* 32194 came with change profile:

new fails
    PERIGRIN/JSON-Any-1.12.tar.gz[255], UNOBE/WWW-Facebook-API-v0.4.7.tar.gz[256], MNOONING/Net-Daemon/Net-Daemon-0.43.tar.gz[465], TBONE/Net-FTP-Common-6.0.tar.gz[756], MNOONING/PlRPC/PlRPC-0.2020.tar.gz[768], RCLAMP/Devel-Caller-0.11.tar.gz[787], RCLAMP/Devel-LexAlias-0.04.tar.gz[788], CLKAO/Data-Bind-0.28.tar.gz[789], CTHOM/Net-Twitter-1.06.tar.gz[808], MWS/ResourcePool-1.0104.tar.gz[856], RICKM/Net-Jaiku-0.0501.tgz[1089], CLKAO/Sub-Multi-0.003.tar.gz[1100], FGLOCK/v6-0.020.tar.gz[1102], RCAPUTO/Lexical-Persistence-0.97.tar.gz[1124], VPIT/Variable-Magic-0.04.tar.gz[1165], NUFFIN/Tie-RefHash-Weak-0.07.tar.gz[1168], NUFFIN/Devel-Events-Objects-0.03.tar.gz[1169], MSCHILLI/CPAN-Unwind-0.05.tar.gz[1207]
gone
    LARSLUND/PDF-Reuse-Barcode-0.05.tar.gz, RONAN/SVG-Template-Graph-0.13.tar.gz, WRW/Barcode-Code128-2.01.tar.gz

	* possible todos:

	- list all perlconfigs for the few succeeding Date-Simple

	- pick any of the others in the contingency table summary and make a
	filtered binary search into the past.

2007-10-25  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Todo: NOG/AFS-2.4.0 look how the indexer fails DONE

	* Summary of recent builds only watching 8 pieces:
	VKON/Tcl-0.95.tar.gz
	MLEHMANN/Coro-4.{11,13}.tar.gz
	MNOONING/Net-Daemon/Net-Daemon-0.43.tar.gz
	RCLAMP/Devel-Caller-0.11.tar.gz
	
     useithreads                no threads
	+--------------------------+--------------------------+
	|  bleadperl@32186,32195   |  bleadperl@32181,32198   |
	|  PASS                    |  PASS                    |
	|                          |                          |
	|                          |  Net-Daemon              |
	|                          |  Devel-Caller            |
-g|                          |                          |
	|  FAIL                    |  FAIL                    |
	|                          |                          |
	|  Coro 4.13               |  Coro 4.11               |
	|  Net-Daemon              |  Tcl                     |
	|  Devel-Caller            |                          |
	|  Tcl                     |                          |
	|                          |                          |
	+--------------------------+--------------------------+
	|  bleadperl@32180,32194   |  bleadperl@32192,32193   |
	|  PASS                    |  PASS                    |
	|                          |                          |
	|  Coro 4.11,4.13          |  Coro 4.13               |
	|  Tcl                     |  Net-Daemon              |
	|                          |  Devel-Caller            |
no|                          |  Tcl                     |
-g|                          |                          |
	|  FAIL                    |  FAIL                    |
	|                          |                          |
	|  Net-Daemon              |                          |
	|  Devel-Caller            |                          |
  +--------------------------+--------------------------+
	

	* 32186 (threads+debugging) came with this change profile:

new fails
    BRADFITZ/Perlbal-1.60.tar.gz[311]
	  DMAKI/File-MMagic-XS-0.09002.tar.gz[358]
	  RCLAMP/Devel-Caller-0.11.tar.gz[400]
	  RCLAMP/Devel-LexAlias-0.04.tar.gz[405]
	  CLKAO/Data-Bind-0.28.tar.gz[406]
	  CLKAO/Sub-Multi-0.003.tar.gz[716]
	  FGLOCK/v6-0.020.tar.gz[717]
	  MLEHMANN/Coro-4.13.tar.gz[725]
	  MNOONING/Net-Daemon/Net-Daemon-0.43.tar.gz[790]
	  MNOONING/PlRPC/PlRPC-0.2020.tar.gz[797]
	  AVAR/re-engine-Plan9-0.14.tar.gz[862]
	  MAURICE/IPC-ShareLite-0.09.tar.gz[889]
	  MWS/ResourcePool-1.0104.tar.gz[942]
	  RCAPUTO/Lexical-Persistence-0.97.tar.gz[944]
	  DMAKI/File-Extract-0.06.tar.gz[956]
	  SREZIC/Tk-Splash-0.14.tar.gz[1339]
gone
    BRADFITZ/Perlbal-1.59.tar.gz
	  GAFFIE/ETL-Pequel-2.4-6b.tar.gz
	  MARKOV/Mail-Box-2.075.tar.gz
	  MLEHMANN/Coro-4.11.tar.gz
	  REDTREE/PDF-API2-Simple-1.1.2.tar.gz
	  TBONE/Net-FTP-Common-6.0.tar.gz

		whereas 32192 (nothreads+nodebugging) had this:

new fails
    PETERW/SVG-Parser-1.01.tar.gz[33]
	  RONAN/SVG-Template-Graph-0.13.tar.gz[36]
	  PETDANCE/Test-WWW-Mechanize-1.14.tar.gz[182]
	  CHROMATIC/Sub-Context-1.00.tar.gz[249]
	  AUTRIJUS/Encode-compat-0.07.tar.gz[298]
	  SCHWIGON/class-methodmaker/Class-MethodMaker-2.10.tar.gz[493]
	  FLUFFY/Term-ProgressBar-2.09.tar.gz[494]
	  AUTRIJUS/Lingua-ZH-HanDetect-0.04.tar.gz[635]
	  CHROMATIC/Test-Kwalitee-0.30.tar.gz[728]
	  DMAKI/POE-Component-StackedProcessor-0.05.tar.gz[766]
	  SCHWIGON/pdf-fdf-simple/PDF-FDF-Simple-0.11.tar.gz[855]
	  DBDPG/DBD-Pg-1.49.tar.gz[911]
	  TBONE/Net-FTP-Common-6.0.tar.gz[929]
	  SRSHAH/Test-Distribution-1.26.tar.gz[1103]
	  SUNGO/POE-API-Peek-1.0802.tar.gz[1104]
	  GWYN/POE-Component-Daemon-0.1006.tar.gz[1105]
	  CHROMATIC/Crypt-CipherSaber-1.00.tar.gz[1107]
	  AUTRIJUS/WWW-REST-0.01.tar.gz[1111]
	  JESSE/GnuPG-Interface-0.36.tar.gz[1148]
	  IMACAT/Locale-Maketext-Gettext-1.22.tar.gz[1171]
	  LBROCARD/Test-WWW-Mechanize-Catalyst-0.41.tar.gz[1184]
	  JROCKWAY/Catalyst-Plugin-Unicode-0.8.tar.gz[1185]
	  RCLAMP/POE-Component-Server-HTTP-0.09.tar.gz[1238]
	  SUNGO/POE-Component-DebugShell-1.0411.tar.gz[1406]
gone
    AUDREYT/Encode-IBM-0.06.tar.gz
	  AVAR/re-engine-Plan9-0.14.tar.gz
	  AWWAIID/Continuity-0.95.tar.gz
	  CLKAO/Data-Bind-0.28.tar.gz
	  CLKAO/Sub-Multi-0.003.tar.gz
	  DAXIM/Yahoo-Photos-0.0.2.tar.gz
	  DMAKI/File-Extract-0.06.tar.gz
	  DMAKI/File-MMagic-XS-0.09002.tar.gz
	  FGLOCK/v6-0.020.tar.gz
	  GOZER/mod_perl-1.30.tar.gz
	  LARSLUND/PDF-Reuse-Barcode-0.05.tar.gz
	  MAURICE/IPC-ShareLite-0.09.tar.gz
	  MIYAGAWA/Apache-GuessCharset-0.03.tar.gz
	  MLEHMANN/Coro-4.13.tar.gz
	  MNOONING/Net-Daemon/Net-Daemon-0.43.tar.gz
	  MNOONING/PlRPC/PlRPC-0.2020.tar.gz
	  MWS/ResourcePool-1.0104.tar.gz
	  NUFFIN/Devel-Events-Objects-0.03.tar.gz
	  NUFFIN/Tie-RefHash-Weak-0.07.tar.gz
	  RCAPUTO/Lexical-Persistence-0.97.tar.gz
	  RCLAMP/Devel-Caller-0.11.tar.gz
	  RCLAMP/Devel-LexAlias-0.04.tar.gz
	  SREZIC/Tk-Splash-0.14.tar.gz
	  STAS/libapreq-1.33.tar.gz
	  TIMB/Apache-Status-DBI-1.012.tar.gz
	  VKON/Tcl-0.95.tar.gz
	  VPIT/Variable-Magic-0.04.tar.gz
	  WRW/Barcode-Code128-2.01.tar.gz

	* Pugs needs some extralibs installed. Installed mtl

	* /tmp dir again:

	30255 SVG-Template-Graph                   Cleaning up /tmp directory; predictable tmp filename
	30256 svg-svg2zinc                         Cleaning up /tmp directory; predictable tmp filenames

2007-10-24  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* What exactly were the differences between 32173,32174,32180,32181?

...32173 -Dinstallusrbinperl=n -Uversiononly -Doptimize=-g -des -Duse64bitint -Dusedevel
...32174 -Dinstallusrbinperl=n -Uversiononly               -des               -Dusedevel -Dusethreads -Duserelocatableinc
...32180 -Dinstallusrbinperl=n -Uversiononly               -des               -Dusedevel -Dusethreads -Duserelocatableinc
...32181 -Dinstallusrbinperl=n -Uversiononly -Doptimize=-g -des -Duse64bitint -Dusedevel              -Duserelocatableinc

	So for 86 I wish that we use

...32186 -Dinstallusrbinperl=n -Uversiononly -Doptimize=-g -des -Duse64bitint -Dusedevel -Dusethreads -Duserelocatableinc
...32192 -Dinstallusrbinperl=n -Uversiononly               -des -Duse64bitint -Dusedevel              -Duserelocatableinc

	DONE.

	* And 32181 is the first that is unthreaded again:

new fails
	  AWWAIID/Continuity-0.95.tar.gz[629],
	  DAXIM/Yahoo-Photos-0.0.2.tar.gz[1429],
	  MLEHMANN/Coro-4.11.tar.gz[628],
	  REDTREE/PDF-API2-Simple-1.1.2.tar.gz[359],
	  TBONE/Net-FTP-Common-6.0.tar.gz[756],
	  TEEJAY/Maypole-2.121.tar.gz[1439]
	  TMTM/CGI-Untaint-date-1.00.tar.gz[1435],
	  VKON/Tcl-0.95.tar.gz[88],
	  YVES/Date-Simple-3.02.tar.gz[567],
gone
	  CLKAO/Data-Bind-0.28.tar.gz,
	  CLKAO/Sub-Multi-0.003.tar.gz,
	  DMAKI/Xango-1.08.tar.gz,
	  FGLOCK/v6-0.020.tar.gz,
	  JROCKWAY/Catalyst-Plugin-Unicode-0.8.tar.gz,
	  LBROCARD/Test-WWW-Mechanize-Catalyst-0.41.tar.gz,
	  MNOONING/Net-Daemon/Net-Daemon-0.43.tar.gz,
	  MNOONING/PlRPC/PlRPC-0.2020.tar.gz,
	  PETDANCE/Test-WWW-Mechanize-1.14.tar.gz,
	  RCAPUTO/Lexical-Persistence-0.97.tar.gz,
	  RCAPUTO/POE-Component-Client-HTTP-0.82.tar.gz,
	  RCLAMP/Devel-Caller-0.11.tar.gz,
	  RCLAMP/Devel-LexAlias-0.04.tar.gz

	Does that mean that we have N modules that work only on threaded or only on non threaded perls?

	started to work on threaded+nondebugging and stopped to work on nonthreaded+debugging:
	  [dep] AWWAIID/Continuity-0.95.tar.gz
	  MLEHMANN/Coro-4.11.tar.gz
	  [dep] TEEJAY/Maypole-2.121.tar.gz
	  TMTM/CGI-Untaint-date-1.00.tar.gz
	  VKON/Tcl-0.95.tar.gz
	  YVES/Date-Simple-3.02.tar.gz

	stopped to work on threaded+nondebugging and started to work on nonthreaded+debugging:
	  [dep] CLKAO/Data-Bind-0.28.tar.gz
	  CLKAO/Sub-Multi-0.003.tar.gz
	  [dep] FGLOCK/v6-0.020.tar.gz
	  JROCKWAY/Catalyst-Plugin-Unicode-0.8.tar.gz
	  MNOONING/Net-Daemon/Net-Daemon-0.43.tar.gz
	  [dep] MNOONING/PlRPC/PlRPC-0.2020.tar.gz
	  [dep] RCAPUTO/Lexical-Persistence-0.97.tar.gz
	  RCLAMP/Devel-Caller-0.11.tar.gz
	  [dep] RCLAMP/Devel-LexAlias-0.04.tar.gz

	works on threaded+debugging:
	  CLKAO/Sub-Multi-0.003.tar.gz
	  JROCKWAY/Catalyst-Plugin-Unicode-0.8.tar.gz (but never seems to work with optimize=O2 ???)

	does not work on threaded+debugging:
	  MLEHMANN/Coro-4.13.tar.gz
	  VKON/Tcl-0.95.tar.gz
	  YVES/Date-Simple-3.02.tar.gz
	  MNOONING/Net-Daemon/Net-Daemon-0.43.tar.gz
	  RCLAMP/Devel-Caller-0.11.tar.gz

	always worked with O2:
	  MLEHMANN/Coro-4.11.tar.gz
	
2007-10-23  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* 32174 has broken Devel::Caller 0.11 and fixed quite a lot of others.
	Maybe a threaded thing? Need to start book keeping. 32174 says:

new fails
	  CLKAO/Data-Bind-0.28.tar.gz[770],
	  CLKAO/Sub-Multi-0.003.tar.gz[807],
	  FGLOCK/v6-0.020.tar.gz[808],
	  JPEACOCK/SVN-Notify-Mirror-0.03603.tar.gz[553],
	  JROCKWAY/Catalyst-Plugin-Unicode-0.8.tar.gz[1230],
	  LBROCARD/Test-WWW-Mechanize-Catalyst-0.41.tar.gz[1166],
	  MIYAGAWA/Log-Dispatch-Config-1.02.tar.gz[939],
	  MNOONING/Net-Daemon/Net-Daemon-0.43.tar.gz[709],
	  MNOONING/PlRPC/PlRPC-0.2020.tar.gz[1355]
	  MSERGEANT/POE-Component-Logger-1.00.tar.gz[940],
	  PETDANCE/Test-WWW-Mechanize-1.14.tar.gz[438],
	  RCAPUTO/Lexical-Persistence-0.97.tar.gz[92],
	  RCLAMP/Devel-Caller-0.11.tar.gz[90],
	  RCLAMP/Devel-LexAlias-0.04.tar.gz[91],
gone
    AWWAIID/Continuity-0.95.tar.gz,
	  CLACO/Data-Currency-0.04002.tar.gz,
	  CLACO/Finance-Currency-Convert-WebserviceX-0.06001.tar.gz,
	  DAXIM/Yahoo-Photos-0.0.2.tar.gz,
	  DCONWAY/Contextual-Return-v0.2.1.tar.gz,
	  JROBINSON/SQL-Translator-0.08001.tar.gz,
	  MLEHMANN/Coro-4.11.tar.gz,
	  NIKIP/Authen-PAM-0.16.tar.gz,
	  RCLAMP/POE-Component-Server-HTTP-0.09.tar.gz,
	  TEEJAY/Maypole-2.121.tar.gz,
	  TMTM/CGI-Untaint-date-1.00.tar.gz,
	  VKON/Tcl-0.95.tar.gz,
	  YVES/Date-Simple-3.02.tar.gz

	and 32180 has no substantial change. 81 will be unthreaded again.

	* spamassassin seems to have bugs in the test suite that then are
	ignored. Seems to call out to the perl in the path which chokes on the
	prototype "_".

	* DWHEELER/Exception-Class-DBI-0.95.tar.gz failed for the first time
	ever in 32154. It was with DBI 1.601 and I think it was the first to
	encounter 1.601. Yes, when compiling with 32152 it was still DBI 1.59. 

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=30230

	* off topic AndyA has created coop google searches for perl and cpan:

	http://google.com/coop/cse?cx=008709583689349882482%3Aw2_rnxeqmu0
	http://google.com/coop/cse?cx=008709583689349882482%3Aj5fu_7cy8vu

	* /tmp watching again:

	30209 Apache-Session                   Cleaning up /tmp directory

	* -rw-------  1 sand sand   2212 Oct 23 02:04 CyoWt00GDv

	find . -depth -user sand -and -newer a0u4eNQ7UO -and -not -newer saoDrTlcuA -exec rm -rv {} \;

2007-10-22  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* 32154 fails with

Failed 1 test out of 1430, 99.93% okay.
        ../ext/threads/shared/t/waithires.t

	on perl itself. 'make nok' sent. Seems to be because I tried a threaded
	perl. Sorry, forgot to make a backup, reconstruct running...

	It turns out that I see the same on 32174 and that it is load dependent.
	And JDHEDDEN says this is not a bug and he is not willing to change the
	timeouts. I wonder if this is related to threaded builds (321[57]4 were
	threaded) or really only load driven.

	* Yesterday I built my first jifty installation with current SVN and
	bleadperl. 32147 was the patchnumber. Soon after this installation was
	completed this perl was used to test Email-Send-2.191 and it failed
	miserably with errors leading to something jifty:

	http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/2007/10/msg702186.html

	Retrying the tests with 32152 succeeds nicely and with 32147 I can
	reproduce the bug. Resolution simple:

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=30183

2007-10-21  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Variable::Magic is a candidate for a BBC article but the binary search
	is veiled by the fact that 28380/28381 is an important transition but
	there is another important transition. 28381 fails all tests with glibc
	noise but nowadays only one test fails. I need to find the transition
	from glibc noise to code that at least runs.

	The other end seems to be 28968 so that 28969 fixed the glibc thing. But
	this is very surprising because that patch only "bumped version to
	5.9.5". Maybe Variable::Magic uses the 4/5 somewhere.

	Now running Variable::Magic tests with 28969:

Failed Test  Stat Wstat Total Fail  List of Failed
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
t/31-array.t    2   512    21    2  20-21
3 tests skipped.

	But current bleadperl 32152 failes with

Failed Test   Stat Wstat Total Fail  List of Failed
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
t/10-simple.t    0    11    14    4  13-14
Failed 1/20 test scripts. 2/217 subtests failed.
Files=20, Tests=217,  9 wallclock secs ( 4.43 cusr +  0.27 csys =  4.70 CPU)
Failed 1/20 test programs. 2/217 subtests failed.


	32015 is the first perl that breaks on 10-simple in this manner.

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=30197

2007-10-19  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* 32138 break keepcool and pingomatic--why? The logfiles for them are
	not being split out. In the original logfile I see

Can't open perl script "/tmp/Ab5Z0NrlWf": No such file or directory
Can't open perl script "/tmp/Ab5Z0NrlWf": No such file or directory

	So it seems that I may have deleted a wrong /tmp file and actually
	disturbed CPAN::Reporter and caused a false negative.

	* more tempfiles and who they might come from:

-rw-rw-r--  1 sand sand   6000 Oct 19 07:46 8l3WxFQ5ki
-rw-rw-r-- 1 sand sand 1487 Oct 19 07:46 CPAN-Dependency-0.11-l5Lnci.yml

	Test fails and is time consuming, running out of time.

-rw-r--r--  1 sand sand   2048 Oct 19 07:02 sb-test.23308
-rw-r--r--  1 sand sand   4096 Oct 19 07:03 sb-test.23332
-rw-r--r--  1 sand sand   2048 Oct 19 07:03 sb-test.23338
-rw-r--r--  1 sand sand   2048 Oct 19 07:03 sb-test.23534
-rw-rw-r-- 1 sand sand 1563 Oct 19 07:02 DateTime-Format-ISO8601-0.06-dKW3or.yml

	Nope, no connection observed.

-rw-rw-r--  1 sand sand      9 Oct 19 05:26 4077fsCcIV
-rw-rw-r-- 1 sand sand 1561 Oct 19 05:26 IO-Async-0.09-sZbY3R.yml

	Yes, reported

	30141 IO-Async          Cleaning up /tmp directory;

	Also:

	30142 KinoSearch        Cleaning up /tmp directory; predictable tmp filenames

-rw-rw-r--  1 sand sand    452 Oct 19 04:53 petal_debug.26135.1192762409.dhcbshswxa
-rw-rw-r--  1 sand sand    703 Oct 19 04:53 petal_debug.26189.1192762430.vasuxjjgrp
-rw-rw-r--  1 sand sand   1633 Oct 19 04:53 petal_debug.26188.1192762430.rmjyjqrpmt
-rw-rw-r--  1 sand sand   1431 Oct 19 04:53 petal_debug.26188.1192762430.nnmkfdmcol
-rw-rw-r--  1 sand sand   1395 Oct 19 04:53 petal_debug.26188.1192762430.nczunhwpnl
-rw-rw-r--  1 sand sand   1344 Oct 19 04:53 petal_debug.26188.1192762430.lcgnvwaewx
-rw-rw-r--  1 sand sand    150 Oct 19 04:54 petal_cache_2.19_a58e7f5fd83c96c482a2699eec876a3f
-rw-rw-r--  1 sand sand    154 Oct 19 04:54 petal_cache_2.19_472e5319343b8068fb59de8231ee9008
-rw-rw-r--  1 sand sand    487 Oct 19 04:54 petal_cache_2.19_3976ac25dc4109849c1cfb097b337432
-rw-rw-r--  1 sand sand    490 Oct 19 04:54 petal_cache_2.19_1630bf5852cd9f7bedd9c5c361f6d951
-rw-rw-r--  1 sand sand   4484 Oct 19 04:54 petal_debug.26230.1192762445.ziottszpqa
-rw-rw-r--  1 sand sand  22188 Oct 19 04:54 petal_cache_2.19_16a885a2aea7745dae5e0a0651edc4f3
-rw-rw-r--  1 sand sand   8621 Oct 19 04:54 petal_cache_2.19_54b3f86dbf348e89c2ec2685e7c15073
-rw-rw-r-- 1 sand sand 1523 Oct 19 04:54 Petal-2.19-77UZcA.yml

	11 files come from this one and I have reported:

	30143 Petal                Cleaning up /tmp directory
	
drwxrwxrwx  4 sand sand   4096 Oct 19 04:49 FileCache/
-rw-rw-r-- 1 sand sand 1563 Oct 19 04:49 Pugs-Compiler-Rule-0.26-hUeyBl.yml

-rw-------  1 sand sand     42 Oct 19 04:31 ZRcWZeunOs
drwx------  2 sand sand   4096 Oct 19 04:31 QjqZAyxa0x/
-rw-------  1 sand sand     40 Oct 19 04:31 E13wRFaSci
drwx------  2 sand sand   4096 Oct 19 04:31 ozY6kh6pjY/
drwx------  2 sand sand   4096 Oct 19 04:31 lZNsNEgqMo/
drwx------  2 sand sand   4096 Oct 19 04:31 41RniDPWeh/
drwx------  2 sand sand   4096 Oct 19 04:31 11IxvNWzvg/
-rw-rw-r-- 1 sand sand 1259 Oct 19 04:42 parrot-0.4.16-0zNo5F.yml

-rw-------  1 sand sand    125 Oct 20 05:07 0M1yjD09XK
-rw-rw-r-- 1 sand sand 1601 Oct 20 05:07 Slay-Makefile-Gress-0.04-qkMixG.yml
-rw-rw-r-- 1 sand sand 1792 Oct 20 05:07 Text-Restructured-0.003036-pgPGFU.yml

-rw-rw-r--  1 sand sand 227803 Oct 20 04:22 NsghdoXHTf
drwx------  2 sand sand   4096 Oct 20 04:23 midvhy07gr
-rw-rw-r-- 1 sand sand 1703 Oct 20 04:22 Test-Warn-0.10-etCdoR.yml
-rw-rw-r-- 1 sand sand 2318 Oct 20 04:24 DBM-Deep-1.0006-XnHLow.yml

	* reported:

	30113 HTTP-Server-Simple-Mason  Cleaning up /tmp directory; predictable tmp filenames

2007-10-17  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* reported:

	30051 Pod-Manual        Cleaning up /tmp directory; predictable tmp filenames

	* If cpan really shouldn't be run as root, then CPAN should refuse to
	run as root if sudo is available. --Alias in
	http://use.perl.org/comments.pl?threshold=0&mode=nested&commentsort=0&op=Change&sid=37249

2007-10-16  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* From the timestamps one of the three must write the Hello World tempfiles:

-rw-rw-r-- 1 sand sand 1605 Oct 16 10:30 HTTP-Request-AsCGI-0.5-3yvbwD.yml
-rw-rw-r-- 1 sand sand 1465 Oct 16 10:30 Text-SimpleTable-0.03-oRnFgA.yml
-rw-rw-r-- 1 sand sand 1516 Oct 16 10:30 HTTP-Body-0.9-PO5l6r.yml

	The latter.

  30048 HTTP-Body         Cleaning up /tmp directory

	* Yesterday on #p5p:

23:51:48 <@rjbs> Hm.  Rose::HTML::Object::Messages breaks on 5.10
23:51:48 <@rjbs> next  unless(defined *{$fq_sub}{'CODE'} && $name =~ 
                 /^[A-Z0-9_]+$/);
23:52:05 <@rjbs> $fq_sub is a string (symbolic ref)
23:52:05 <@rjbs> Not a GLOB reference at lib/Rose/HTML/Object/Messages.pm line 
                 168.

2007-10-15  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Todo: revisit 28915, it seems to have fallen off the edge of the
	carpet. And dmq's related one. And possibly weigh in File::Spec rev 3.25_01!

2007-10-14  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Going to report tmp directory. I already have reported:

	26078 Config-JSON: Using predictable filenames in /tmp is a security
	hazard and should be avoided even in test scripts. Besides if they
	aren't cleaned up they lead to failing tests. Please use File::Temp
	instead.

	26951 Cache-FastMmap (resolved): Using predictable filenames in /tmp has
	some security implications too, so should be avoided. In this case it
	simply causes the test to fail because another user has occupied this
	file or directory.

	26538 HTML-Scrubber: The first bug is that the tmp file was not cleaned
	up and left ove from a different user in /tmp/. Generally it is
	considered a security issue to put predictable files into /tmp.
	File::Temp should be used instead.

	26536 Module-Refresh (resolved): The first bug is that the test script
	does not clean up after itself. /tmp/FooBar.pm is still around from a
	test by a different user. In general it is considered a security issue
	to write predictable file names into /tmp. Better you use File::Temp
	(and remove the files at the end nonetheless).

	Today I find a DBM Deep file, one that starts with "use strict;\nuse
	ExtUtils::MakeMaker;\nuse CPAN::Version;\n\n# read module and prereq
	string from STDIN\nwhile ( <STDIN> ) {...", a directory with two
	DBM-Deep files, about 40 "Hello world" perl programs, all at 23:45, a
	catalyst logo in PNG format at 23:47 and many, many more

	29969 CGI-Session: "Temporary files left over in /tmp"
  30020 Log-Report					  Cleaning up /tmp directory
  30019 SQL-DB							  Cleaning up /tmp directory; predictable tmp filenames	open
  30018 PAR-Repository-Client Cleaning up /tmp directory	open

2007-10-13  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Slaven sends a miserable FAIL with 5.6.2 and YAML 0.39.

	* The failing tests on mod_perl, Archive-Any, and GIS-Distance are
	repeatable with 32104 and Log-Dispatch-Config
	(http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=30073) has joined them in
	failing. I've stopped all running loops to look around in the /tmp
	directory.

	32090 had a working A:A. fforce test on it now fails with

Running make test
Bareword found where operator expected at /tmp/N0WH1MFuPP line 1, near "'/usr/bin/make test 'TEST_FILES"
        (Missing operator before TEST_FILES?)
Bareword found where operator expected at /tmp/N0WH1MFuPP line 1, near "00compile"
        (Missing operator before compile?)
Bareword found where operator expected at /tmp/N0WH1MFuPP line 3, near "'TEST_FILES=t/00compile.t t/Any.t t/fail.t t/perl-critic.t t/pod.t t/type.t' exited"
        (Missing operator before exited?)
syntax error at /tmp/N0WH1MFuPP line 1, near "'/usr/bin/make test 'TEST_FILES"
Can't find string terminator "'" anywhere before EOF at /tmp/N0WH1MFuPP line 3.

	And the tempfile is gone. Starting to cleanup my /tmp directory and
	rerunning the A:A test again and again. AA itself leaves a testfile in
	/tmp. Not every time?

	Found something, not related to the tmp directory. I have

test:
  args:
    - "TEST_FILES=t/00compile.t t/Any.t t/fail.t t/perl-critic.t t/pod.t t/type.t"

	in the distroprefs file. If I remove it we succeed. Finding a new bug by
	working around another. Who broke the distroprefs file? It is not
	MakeMaker or Harness. If I issue 'make test TEST_F...' manually it is
	fine. It's something coming earlier.

	It's in CPAN::Reporter. If I turn reporting off it goes away.
	Downgrading to 0.99_1[540] same problem. Downgrading to 99_05 nope,
	99_01 nope. To 0.4801 good.

	Ticks in a command. Patch sent to David.

2007-10-12  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* BLUEFEET/GIS-Distance-0.01001.tar.gz also suddenly breaks with 32101:-(

	And CMOORE/Archive-Any-0.093.tar.gz too. And something somehow connected
	to the /tmp directory.

	* mod_perl starts failing with 32101:

[Fri Oct 12 01:50:59 2007] [error] Can't locate lib.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /home/src/www/apache/apache/apache_1.3.37/lib/5.10.0/i686-linux-64int /home/src/www/apache/apache/apache_1.3.37/lib/5.10.0 /home/src/www/apache/apache/apache_1.3.37/lib/site_perl/5.10.0/i686-linux-64int /home/src/www/apache/apache/apache_1.3.37/lib/site_perl/5.10.0 /home/sand/.cpan/build/mod_perl-1.30-0CO6Yi/t/ /home/sand/.cpan/build/mod_perl-1.30-0CO6Yi/t/lib/perl) at /home/sand/.cpan/build/mod_perl-1.30-0CO6Yi/t//docs/startup.pl line 8.\nBEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /home/sand/.cpan/build/mod_perl-1.30-0CO6Yi/t//docs/startup.pl line 8.\nCompilation failed in require at (eval 2) line 1.\n
Syntax error on line 62 of /home/sand/.cpan/build/mod_perl-1.30-0CO6Yi/t/conf/httpd.conf:
Can't locate lib.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /home/src/www/apache/apache/apache_1.3.37/lib/5.10.0/i686-linux-64int /home/src/www/apache/apache/apache_1.3.37/lib/5.10.0 /home/src/www/apache/apache/apache_1.3.37/lib/site_perl/5.10.0/i686-linux-64int /home/src/www/apache/apache/apache_1.3.37/lib/site_perl/5.10.0 /home/sand/.cpan/build/mod_perl-1.30-0CO6Yi/t/ /home/sand/.cpan/build/mod_perl-1.30-0CO6Yi/t/lib/perl) at /home/sand/.cpan/build/mod_perl-1.30-0CO6Yi/t//docs/startup.pl line 8.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /home/sand/.cpan/build/mod_perl-1.30-0CO6Yi/t//docs/startup.pl line 8.
Compilation failed in require at (eval 2) line 1.

	Go figure. I want to see this repeated before I investigate.

	* PAR::Filter et al. permanently broken since 31796 on blead, OK with
	current maintperl

2007-09-06T07:55 	perl 	31796 	391 	SMUELLER/PAR-Packer-0.976.tar.gz 	NOT OK
2007-09-05T17:16 	perl 	31795 	588 	SMUELLER/PAR-Packer-0.976.tar.gz 	OK

	Cannot be something with patch 31796, it's just a test fix.

	I still have 31790 and 31824 around. The autobundle diff shows these
	suspicious candidates:

	- Archive::Unzip::Burst                # seems ok
	* B
	- Class::Component
	- Class::MethodMaker
	- Crypt::SipherSaber
	* ExtUtils::Install    1.41_04/1.44    # seems ok
	* File::Path                           # seems ok
	+ Getopt::Attribute    1.42            # seems ok
	* MRO::Compat                          # seems ok
	* Module::Build                        # seems ok
	- PAR::Filter
	+ Set::Scalar
	* Test::Deep
	- Text::Diff::Parser
	- Text::Scan
	* XML::LibXML

	/home/sand/.cpan/build/PAR-Packer-0.976-JePP61/blib/script/pp: Failed to extract a parl from 'PAR::StrippedPARL::Static' to file 'parltQZf2Gh' at /home/sand/.cpan/build/PAR-Packer-0.976-JePP61/blib/lib/PAR/Packer.pm line 1149, <DATA> line 1.

	It's about extracting. This Archive::Unzip::Burst looks interesting. Why
	do we not have it?

	31790 compiles it and tests ok and has it installed.

	31824 has an old CPAN but it compiles it and tests OK. PAR Packer takes
	a long time to compile. It fails at compilation stage with

./par -I../myldr/.. -I../blib/lib -I"/home/sand/.cpan/build/PAR-Packer-0.976-ZlXHYS/inc" -I"/home/sand/.cpan/build/Archive-Unzip-Burst-0.02-58kTmp/blib/arch" -I"/home/sand/.cpan/build/Archive-Unzip-Burst-0.02-58kTmp/blib/lib" -I"/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pSib5JX/perl-5.8.0@31824/lib/5.10.0/i686-linux-64int" -I"/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pSib5JX/perl-5.8.0@31824/lib/5.10.0" -I"/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pSib5JX/perl-5.8.0@31824/lib/site_perl/5.10.0/i686-linux-64int" -I"/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pSib5JX/perl-5.8.0@31824/lib/site_perl/5.10.0" -I"/home/sand/.cpan/build/PAR-Packer-0.976-ZlXHYS" -I"." -q -B -O../script/parldyn
Usage: ./par [ -Alib.par ] [ -Idir ] [ -Mmodule ] [ src.par ] [ program.pl ]
       ./par [ -B|-b ] [-Ooutfile] src.par

	Maybe it has to do with option parsing? I mean, when I *install*
	Archive::Unzip::Burst and then try PAR again from scratch, it fails with
	the same error message. Getopt::ArgvFile is a prereq and has not changed.

	31790 has Getopt::Attribute missing. I retry to fforce test it on 31790.
	It compiles it. Running test ... (running out of time)

	For 31824 I hide Getopt::Attribute now and fforce test PAR-Packer-0.976
	here too. It fails again with the same error message.

	For 31824 I downgrade Module::Build from 0.2808_01 to 0.2808 which 790
	had. PAR-Parser still fails with the same error.

	For 31824 I downgrade from E:I 1.44 to
	YVES/ExtUtils-Install-1.41_04.tar.gz. I expect that if this has an
	influence it would show in the installation of other modules and so do
	not expect a change in behaviour. And so it gets confirmed.

	For 31824 I find a File::Path 2.00_11 which is lower than the 2.01 in
	31790.

	Can I see the above par command once again for 31790?

./par -I../myldr/.. -I../blib/lib -I"/home/sand/.cpan/build/PAR-Packer-0.976-slY0pI/inc" -I"/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pNaGaP6/perl-5.8.0@31790/lib/5.9.5/i686-linux-64int" -I"/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pNaGaP6/perl-5.8.0@31790/lib/5.9.5" -I"/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pNaGaP6/perl-5.8.0@31790/lib/site_perl/5.9.5/i686-linux-64int" -I"/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pNaGaP6/perl-5.8.0@31790/lib/site_perl/5.9.5" -I"/home/sand/.cpan/build/PAR-Packer-0.976-slY0pI" -I"." -q -B -O../script/parldyn

	I realize that downgrading 31824 is more cumbersome than upgrading
	31790. Just run r command and pick something and retry PAR-Parser. I
	picked Set::Scalar and then realized that I'm hunting two bugs at once.
	One is the above "./par" command that triggers a "Usage" error, the
	other is a failing 20-pp test. And I see now that 31790 fails on test
	20-pp. Unfortunately it is a very time consuming test and I must restart
	me research to find explain each error separately.

2007-10-11  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* 5.6.2 can also have the corruption:

*** glibc detected *** /usr/local/perl-5.6.2/bin/perl: double free or corruption (!prev): 0x08154f08 ***
======= Backtrace: =========
/lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6[0xb7ea1cf5]
/lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(cfree+0x90)[0xb7ea5790]
/usr/local/perl-5.6.2/bin/perl(Perl_safefree+0x85)[0x80ae618]
/usr/local/perl-5.6.2/bin/perl(Perl_mg_free+0x79)[0x80b5146]
/usr/local/perl-5.6.2/bin/perl(Perl_sv_clear+0x510)[0x80d4af6]
/usr/local/perl-5.6.2/bin/perl(Perl_sv_free+0x1d3)[0x80d5046]
/usr/local/perl-5.6.2/bin/perl(Perl_sv_clear+0x6c0)[0x80d4ca6]
/usr/local/perl-5.6.2/bin/perl(Perl_sv_free+0x1d3)[0x80d5046]
/usr/local/perl-5.6.2/bin/perl(Perl_free_tmps+0x6f)[0x80f23c6]
/usr/local/perl-5.6.2/bin/perl(Perl_pp_nextstate+0x64)[0x80c1780]
/usr/local/perl-5.6.2/bin/perl(Perl_runops_debug+0x154)[0x80c135c]
/usr/local/perl-5.6.2/bin/perl[0x805d69f]
/usr/local/perl-5.6.2/bin/perl(perl_run+0xde)[0x805d247]
/usr/local/perl-5.6.2/bin/perl(main+0x9f)[0x8059eb3]
/lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xe0)[0xb7e4e050]
/usr/local/perl-5.6.2/bin/perl[0x8059d91]
======= Memory map: ========
08048000-08146000 r-xp 00000000 03:02 57623      /usr/local/perl-5.6.2/bin/perl
08146000-0814f000 rwxp 000fe000 03:02 57623      /usr/local/perl-5.6.2/bin/perl
0814f000-08253000 rwxp 0814f000 00:00 0          [heap]
b7c00000-b7c21000 rwxp b7c00000 00:00 0
b7c21000-b7d00000 ---p b7c21000 00:00 0
b7db4000-b7dbe000 r-xp 00000000 03:02 767731     /lib/libgcc_s.so.1
b7dbe000-b7dbf000 rwxp 00009000 03:02 767731     /lib/libgcc_s.so.1
b7dd4000-b7de7000 r-xp 00000000 03:02 767894     /lib/i686/cmov/libpthread-2.6.1.so
b7de7000-b7de9000 rwxp 00013000 03:02 767894     /lib/i686/cmov/libpthread-2.6.1.so
b7de9000-b7deb000 rwxp b7de9000 00:00 0
b7deb000-b7e02000 r-xp 00000000 09:01 17550801   /home/sand/.cpan/build/Event-1.09-E0n7Zq/blib/arch/auto/Event/Event.so
b7e02000-b7e03000 rwxp 00016000 09:01 17550801   /home/sand/.cpan/build/Event-1.09-E0n7Zq/blib/arch/auto/Event/Event.so
b7e03000-b7e06000 rwxp b7e03000 00:00 0
b7e06000-b7e08000 r-xp 00000000 03:02 768237     /lib/i686/cmov/libutil-2.6.1.so
b7e08000-b7e0a000 rwxp 00001000 03:02 768237     /lib/i686/cmov/libutil-2.6.1.so
b7e0a000-b7e0f000 r-xp 00000000 03:02 767161     /lib/i686/cmov/libcrypt-2.6.1.so
b7e0f000-b7e11000 rwxp 00004000 03:02 767161     /lib/i686/cmov/libcrypt-2.6.1.so
b7e11000-b7e38000 rwxp b7e11000 00:00 0
b7e38000-b7f7a000 r-xp 00000000 03:02 767159     /lib/i686/cmov/libc-2.6.1.so
b7f7a000-b7f7b000 r-xp 00142000 03:02 767159     /lib/i686/cmov/libc-2.6.1.so
b7f7b000-b7f7d000 rwxp 00143000 03:02 767159     /lib/i686/cmov/libc-2.6.1.so
b7f7d000-b7f80000 rwxp b7f7d000 00:00 0
b7f80000-b7fa3000 r-xp 00000000 03:02 767163     /lib/i686/cmov/libm-2.6.1.so
b7fa3000-b7fa5000 rwxp 00023000 03:02 767163     /lib/i686/cmov/libm-2.6.1.so
b7fa5000-b7fa7000 r-xp 00000000 03:02 767162     /lib/i686/cmov/libdl-2.6.1.so
b7fa7000-b7fa9000 rwxp 00001000 03:02 767162     /lib/i686/cmov/libdl-2.6.1.so
b7fa9000-b7fbd000 r-xp 00000000 03:02 767552     /lib/i686/cmov/libnsl-2.6.1.so
b7fbd000-b7fbf000 rwxp 00013000 03:02 767552     /lib/i686/cmov/libnsl-2.6.1.so
b7fbf000-b7fc2000 rwxp b7fbf000 00:00 0
b7fc2000-b7fc9000 r-xp 00000000 03:02 768225     /lib/i686/cmov/librt-2.6.1.so
b7fc9000-b7fcb000 rwxp 00006000 03:02 768225     /lib/i686/cmov/librt-2.6.1.so
b7fcb000-b7fd1000 r-xp 00000000 03:02 75923      /usr/local/perl-5.6.2/lib/site_perl/5.6.2/i686-linux-64int/auto/Time/HiRes/HiRes.so
b7fd1000-b7fd2000 rwxp 00005000 03:02 75923      /usr/local/perl-5.6.2/lib/site_perl/5.6.2/i686-linux-64int/auto/Time/HiRes/HiRes.so
b7fd2000-b7fd4000 r-xp 00000000 03:02 230196     /usr/local/perl-5.6.2/lib/5.6.2/i686-linux-64int/auto/attrs/attrs.so
b7fd4000-b7fd5000 rwxp 00001000 03:02 230196     /usr/local/perl-5.6.2/lib/5.6.2/i686-linux-64int/auto/attrs/attrs.so
b7fd6000-b7fd8000 rwxp b7fd6000 00:00 0
b7fd8000-b7ff4000 r-xp 00000000 03:02 767854     /lib/ld-2.6.1.so
b7ff4000-b7ff6000 rwxp 0001b000 03:02 767854     /lib/ld-2.6.1.so
bfcad000-bfcf0000 rw-p bfcad000 00:00 0 

	

2007-10-10  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* harness 2.99_03? Where is the mailing list? tapx-dev@hexten.net

	From: Elliot Shank <perl@galumph.com>
	Subject: Confusing test results for Perl::Critic 1.079_001.
	To: andreas.koenig@anima.de
	CC: perlcritic <dev@perlcritic.tigris.org>
	Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 14:19:45 -0500

	All tests pass, yet the test run is reported as failing.

	Do you have any idea what's going on?


2007-10-09  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* 5.005_05. Running out of the CPAN WC

Warning: prerequisite File::Temp 0 not found at (eval 4) line 220.
Warning: prerequisite Scalar::Util 0 not found at (eval 4) line 220.
Warning: prerequisite Test::Harness 2.62 not found at (eval 4) line 220.
Warning: prerequisite Test::More 0 not found at (eval 4) line 220.

	1) install Test::Harness     # installs 2.64
	2) install File::Temp        # installs Test::More but fails for File::Temp due Carp::Heavy
	3) install TJENNESS/File-Temp-0.16.tar.gz  # works
	4) install GBARR/Scalar-List-Utils-1.18.tar.gz # works
	5) install CPAN::Reporter

		Failed during this command:
		 ARANDAL/Pod-Simple-3.05.tar.gz               : make_test NO
		 RRA/podlators-2.0.5.tar.gz                   : make_test NO
		 MSCHWERN/ExtUtils-MakeMaker-6.36.tar.gz      : make NO
		 DAGOLDEN/File-pushd-1.00.tar.gz              : make_test NO
		 DMUEY/File-Copy-Recursive-0.35.tar.gz        : make_test NO
		 MAREKR/Pod-Parser-1.35.tar.gz                : make_test NO
		 JV/Getopt-Long-2.37.tar.gz                   : make_test NO one dependency not OK (Pod::Usage)
		 DAGOLDEN/CPAN-Reporter-0.4801.tar.gz         : make_test NO

	6) install MAREKR/PodParser-1.23.tar.gz  # works
	7) install Term::ANSIColor               # works
	8) install RRA/podlators-1.27.tar.gz     # works
	9) install MSCHWERN/ExtUtils-MakeMaker-6.36.tar.gz # works
	10) install DAGOLDEN/File-pushd-1.00.tar.gz # works

	Now I tried it with Bundle::CPANxxl and during YAML::Syck got:

*** glibc detected *** /usr/local/perl-5.005_05/bin/perl: free(): invalid next size (fast): 0x0818f3a8 ***
======= Backtrace: ========= 
/lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6[0xb7e24cf5]
/lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(cfree+0x90)[0xb7e28790]
/usr/local/perl-5.005_05/bin/perl(Perl_sv_clear+0x39f)[0x80937af]
/usr/local/perl-5.005_05/bin/perl(Perl_sv_free+0x4b)[0x809397b]
/usr/local/perl-5.005_05/bin/perl(Perl_free_tmps+0x4c)[0x80a795c]
/usr/local/perl-5.005_05/bin/perl(Perl_pp_nextstate+0x4f)[0x808d73f]
/usr/local/perl-5.005_05/bin/perl(Perl_runops_standard+0x18)[0x80c4618]
/usr/local/perl-5.005_05/bin/perl(perl_call_sv+0x314)[0x8059864]
/usr/local/perl-5.005_05/bin/perl(Perl_call_list+0x1dd)[0x8059ced]
/usr/local/perl-5.005_05/bin/perl(Perl_newSUB+0x93d)[0x807aa2d]
/usr/local/perl-5.005_05/bin/perl(Perl_yyparse+0xe9c)[0x8071bcc]
/usr/local/perl-5.005_05/bin/perl[0x80aad21]
/usr/local/perl-5.005_05/bin/perl(Perl_pp_require+0x4f9)[0x80abbf9]
/usr/local/perl-5.005_05/bin/perl(Perl_runops_standard+0x18)[0x80c4618]
/usr/local/perl-5.005_05/bin/perl(perl_call_sv+0x314)[0x8059864]
/usr/local/perl-5.005_05/bin/perl(Perl_call_list+0x1dd)[0x8059ced]
/usr/local/perl-5.005_05/bin/perl(Perl_newSUB+0x93d)[0x807aa2d]
/usr/local/perl-5.005_05/bin/perl(Perl_utilize+0x25a)[0x807d3aa]
/usr/local/perl-5.005_05/bin/perl(Perl_yyparse+0xf95)[0x8071cc5]
/usr/local/perl-5.005_05/bin/perl[0x80aad21]
/usr/local/perl-5.005_05/bin/perl(Perl_pp_require+0x4f9)[0x80abbf9]
/usr/local/perl-5.005_05/bin/perl(Perl_runops_standard+0x18)[0x80c4618]
/usr/local/perl-5.005_05/bin/perl(perl_call_sv+0x314)[0x8059864]
/usr/local/perl-5.005_05/bin/perl(Perl_call_list+0x1dd)[0x8059ced]
/usr/local/perl-5.005_05/bin/perl(Perl_newSUB+0x93d)[0x807aa2d]
/usr/local/perl-5.005_05/bin/perl(Perl_utilize+0x25a)[0x807d3aa]
/usr/local/perl-5.005_05/bin/perl(Perl_yyparse+0xf95)[0x8071cc5]
/usr/local/perl-5.005_05/bin/perl(perl_parse+0x709)[0x805b019]
/usr/local/perl-5.005_05/bin/perl(main+0x75)[0x8057705]
/lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xe0)[0xb7dd1050]
/usr/local/perl-5.005_05/bin/perl[0x8057621]

	Failed during this command:
	 AUDREYT/YAML-Syck-0.97.tar.gz                : writemakefile NO '/usr/local/perl-5.005_05/bin/perl Makefile.PL' returned status 6
	 RGIERSIG/Expect-1.21.tar.gz                  : make_test NO
	 INGY/YAML-0.66.tar.gz                        : writemakefile NO '/usr/local/perl-5.005_05/bin/perl Makefile.PL' returned status 7424
	 KWILLIAMS/Module-Build-0.2808.tar.gz         : make_test NO
	 TJENNESS/File-Temp-0.18.tar.gz               : make_test NO
	 GBARR/Scalar-List-Utils-1.19.tar.gz          : writemakefile NO '/usr/local/perl-5.005_05/bin/perl Makefile.PL' returned status 6
	 ILYAM/Data-Dumper-2.121.tar.gz               : make NO
	 DMUEY/File-Copy-Recursive-0.35.tar.gz        : make_test NO
	 DAGOLDEN/CPAN-Reporter-0.4801.tar.gz         : make_test NO
	 GBARR/IO-1.2301.tar.gz                       : writemakefile NO '/usr/local/perl-5.005_05/bin/perl Makefile.PL' returned status 65280
	 AUDREYT/Module-Signature-0.55.tar.gz         : make_test NO one dependency not OK (IO::Socket::INET)
	 PMQS/IO-Compress-Zlib-2.006.tar.gz           : make_test NO
	 PMQS/Compress-Zlib-2.007.tar.gz              : make_test NO
	 ADAMK/Archive-Zip-1.20.tar.gz                : make_test NO
	 TOMHUGHES/IO-Zlib-1.07.tar.gz                : make_test NO
	 KANE/Archive-Tar-1.36.tar.gz                 : make_test NO
	

2007-10-08  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* [rt.cpan.org #29616] "couldn't find a hints file" error seems like a
	step backwards

2007-10-06  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Got a list of interesting Tk modules from Slaven

	Tk::Axis Tk::Carp Tk::Clock Tk::CodeText Tk::CursorControl Tk::DateEntry
	Tk::DatePick Tk::DiffText Tk::DirSelect Tk::ExecuteCommand
	Tk::FastSplash (tricky!) Tk::FileDialog Tk::FireButton Tk::Gauge
	Tk::Graph Tk::GraphItems Tk::HTML Tk::IconCanvas Tk::JBrowseEntry
	Tk::JComboBox Tk::JFileDialog Tk::JListbox Tk::JPEG::Lite Tk::LCD
	Tk::LockDisplay (interactive!) Tk::MDI Tk::MListbox Tk::RotCanvas
	Tk::StayOnTop Tk::Stderr Tk::TableMatrix Tk::TextANSIColor
	Tk::TextHighlight (interactive!) Tk::TIFF Tk::ToolBar (interactive!)
	Tk::Wizard Tk::Zinc

	didn't try those marked as interactive, all others had well behaving
	tests with DISPLAY=:121 except

	TURNERJW/Tk-JFileDialog-1.34.tar.gz 
	RCS/Tk-MListbox-1.11.tar.gz

2007-10-04  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* t/034-uncompfile........ok
t/035-uncompreadline....ok
t/040-memory............ok
t/041-error.............Name "main::BZIP" used only once: possible typo at t/041-error.t line 11.

	I had to disable ARJAY/Compress-Bzip2-2.09.tar.gz because of this.
	Happened with 5.6.2. Should make this a bugreport.

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=29787

	* #29754 5.005_05 has a lockfile problem. RESOLVED

	* Todo: more often change the perl config to have more variability;

	* http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=29759 whines about Gtk2 not
	finishing its build. Something to do with @32001 in the path.

2007-10-03  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* what's up with IPC::PubSub breakage? Is it breaking because of its
	dependency on DBM::Deep?

pocpoc=> select * from distroes where name like '%DBM-Deep-%';
  id  |              name
------+--------------------------------
  978 | RKINYON/DBM-Deep-1.0001.tar.gz
 1725 | RKINYON/DBM-Deep-1.0000.tar.gz
 1783 | RKINYON/DBM-Deep-0.983.tar.gz
 3811 | RKINYON/DBM-Deep-1.0004.tar.gz
 3858 | RKINYON/DBM-Deep-1.0006.tar.gz
 3760 | RKINYON/DBM-Deep-1.0002.tar.gz
 3785 | RKINYON/DBM-Deep-1.0003.tar.gz
(7 Zeilen)

pocpoc=> select distro,count(*) from testruns where distro in (978,1725,1783,3811,3858,3760,3785) and testresult='OK' group by distro;
 distro | count 
--------+-------
   1783 |    80
   3811 |     3
    978 |   322
   3858 |     2
   3785 |     6
   3760 |     4
(6 Zeilen)

	Or in one line:

pocpoc=> select distroes.name,count(*) from testruns, distroes where testruns.distro=distroes.id and distroes.name like '%IPC-PubSub-%' and testresult='OK' group by distroes.name;
              name              | count 
--------------------------------+-------
 JESSE/IPC-PubSub-0.24.tar.gz   |   221
 AUDREYT/IPC-PubSub-0.23.tar.gz |    13
 AUDREYT/IPC-PubSub-0.26.tar.gz |   156
 AUDREYT/IPC-PubSub-0.22.tar.gz |    58
(4 Zeilen)

	Only time series can help here. It started failing with 32002, was green
	up to 32001. And indeed this was the first day of DBM-Deep 1.0006

    /home/sand/.cpan/Bundle/Snapshot_2007_10_03_00.pm 32002
	  /home/sand/.cpan/Bundle/Snapshot_2007_10_03_01.pm 32001

	This also marked the change from 64bitint=define zu undef and a non
	debugging perl, CPAN::Reporter 0.99_1[34], lots of other differences.

	But I upgraded 32001 to DBM::Deep 1.0006 and now tests of IPC::PubSub
	fail. Downgrading to DBM::Deep 1.0005 is refused because tests fail. But
	it was not 1.0005, it was 1.0004 that which IPC::PubSub worked with
	flawlessly.

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=29757

	* bugreport to Jifty would circle on: current SVN tells me to install
	IPC::PubSub, Email::Send, Test::WWW::Declare

	- IPC::PubSub in megainstall but tests failing

	- Email::Send missing in megainstall, added now but tests failing

	- Test::WWW::Declare unknown on CPAN must come from repo (done)

	* EDPRATOMO/Algorithm-Permute-0.06.tar.gz probably needs a binary
	search, it fails to *compile* the XS code. Presumably it has compiled
	once upon a time. 25532 fails; 20002 OK; 23023 OK; OOOPs, I have doen
	this already and reported. See further below.

2007-10-02  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* JROBINSON/SQL-Translator-0.08001.tar.gz is another BBC candidate.

t/37-translator-graph......Can't locate object method "is_trivial_link" via package "GLOB" at /home/sand/.cpan/build/SQL-Translator-0.08001-oWjySe/blib/lib/SQL/Translator/Schema/Graph.pm line 46.
# Looks like you planned 3 tests but only ran 2.
# Looks like your test died just after 2.
dubious
        Test returned status 255 (wstat 65280, 0xff00)
DIED. FAILED test 3
        Failed 1/3 tests, 66.67% okay

	See 2007-07-03 where I said I cannot run a binary search against it. Now
	I can at least with some manual intervention. 23023 OK. It's hard to run
	this binary search correct because now some of these perls do not pass
	YAML tests and subsequently cannot patch/install Module::Build without
	intervention. 24439 OK. 24759 OK.

	But 24759 depends on YAML and YAML has was not working for 24759 so
	CPAN.pm didn't install it. We have all tests pass but no installation.
	Need to force it. And YAML::XS is also tunneled.

	So we have a very dark tunnel around 24759 with neither YAML nor
	Module::Build. I have a patch for MB but not for YAML.

	In any case 28539 still has the test 37 bug. 25532 OK; 27048 fails;
	26369 (needs force install YAML) OK; 26695 (force install YAML) fails;
	26465 OK; 26545 fails; 26480 OK; ... 496 fails; 488 fails; 484 OK

----Program----
eval q{use SQL::Translator 0.08001};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../psiUhc4/perl-5.8.0@26486/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../pQD0dEL/perl-5.8.0@26487/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----

	http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl5.porters/browse_thread/thread/a7b653fdb4b5fc34/be6f8546211987a0?lnk=gst&q=bbc+translator#be6f8546211987a0

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=29940


	* RCLAMP/POE-Component-Server-HTTP-0.09.tar.gz looks like a BBC
	candidate 22245 OK. But it's shadowed by the depends on POE-API-Peek
	which was broken by blead for a while around 27514.

	I have the impression that POE::API::Peek started to work on 31051 and
	that POE::Component::Server::HTTP now works too since I have added a
	dependency on POE::API::Peek in my distroprefs file. Nope, the
	dependency on POE::API::Peek is in the Makefile.PL of P:C:S:HTTP.

	Apparently all's well. *Maybe* there's also a configure_requires on POE
	needed somewhere, dunno.

	* IFF Compress::Zlib 2.X does not work we can take
	PMQS/Compress-Zlib-1.42.tar.gz as a replacement!

	Would be nice to find a replacement for Scalar-List-Utils too. 1.19 does
	not work with blead@23023, but 1.17 does.

2007-10-01  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* off topic: try rob kinyon's bug with the next bleadperl which will
	have no debugging and no int64bit.

2007-09-29  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* digging into gtk. It always failed because somebody told the Gtk
	self-configuration that something on my system was not sufficient. No
	helpful diagnostics were ever provided.

	Running through the debugger today reveals that it is due to pkg-config.

	Asking pkg-config with the right options reveals a few things

	# pkg-config --exists --print-errors 'gtk+-2.0'

	I had to call it several times and to install libxmu-dev libxinerama-dev
	libxinerama1 (who would have guessed?)

	This does at least let the above command return true.

	But there is still a version requirement in the Gtk2 package that says

	gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0

	And surprise, we now fulfill it.

	I think the only bug is the --silence-errors option that I saw in the
	debugger. It should be replaced with --print-errors. Otherwise the user
	never sees an error and has to suffer.

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=29758

	* todo: add more Tk modules to megainstall. Which are missing?

    4454 2001-05-05 SREZIC/Tk-Autoscroll-1.11.tar.gz         MISS OK
    9563 2007-03-17 SREZIC/Tk-Canvas-Point-0.03.tar.gz       MISS FAIL0 OK1
    8190 2002-08-08 SREZIC/Tk-CanvasFig-1.014.tar.gz         MISS FAIL0 HANG0
    9673 2003-02-12 SREZIC/Tk-ContextHelp-0.10.tar.gz        MISS FAIL0 HANG0
   19515 2007-09-28 SREZIC/Tk-Date-0.42_51.tar.gz            MISS FAIL0 OK1
   10448 2004-07-02 SREZIC/Tk-DateEntry-1.38.tar.gz          MISS FAIL0 OK1
    5193 2005-10-10 SREZIC/Tk-Enscript-1.08.tar.gz           MISS FAIL0 OK1
   10380 2007-04-10 SREZIC/Tk-FontDialog-0.13.tar.gz         HAVE
   25367 2006-05-23 SREZIC/Tk-GBARR-2.07.tar.gz (Tk::Cloth)  MISS FAIL0 OK1
   22275 2005-05-03 SREZIC/Tk-Getopt-0.49.tar.gz             MISS FAIL0 OK1
   10848 2007-02-02 SREZIC/Tk-HistEntry-0.43.tar.gz          HAVE
   19328 2004-07-02 SREZIC/Tk-JPEG-Lite-2.01403.tar.gz       MISS FAIL0 OK1
    8146 2004-09-04 SREZIC/Tk-PathEntry-2.23.tar.gz          MISS FAIL0 OK1
   60117 2007-07-27 SREZIC/Tk-Pod-0.9935.tar.gz              HAVE
    6803 2005-08-25 SREZIC/Tk-Splash-0.14.tar.gz             MISS FAIL0 OK1
  166725 2007-05-11 SREZIC/Tk-TIFF-0.10.tar.gz               MISS FAIL0 OK1
   12299 2007-09-23 SREZIC/Tk-WidgetDump-1.35.tar.gz         MISS FAIL0 OK1
    6855 2004-03-20 SREZIC/Tk-WinPrint-0.05.tar.gz           MISS FAIL1
   12873 2006-09-01 SREZIC/Tk-XMLViewer-0.18.tar.gz          MISS FAIL0 OK1

	HAVE  ... already installed
	MISS  ... not installed yet
	FAIL0 ... fails without DISPLAY
	FAIL1 ... fails compile
	OK    ... OK without DISPLAY
	OK1   ... OK after setting DISPLAY=:121
	HANG0 ... hangs during test with DISPLAY=:121 but doesn't hang with BATCH=1
	
	* DMAKI/Gungho-0.08007.tar.gz

t/03_live/twitter................skipped
        all skipped: Enable GUNGHO_TWITTER_USERNAME and GUNGHO_TWITTER_PASSWORD to run these tests
t/99_kwalitee....................skipped
        all skipped: Enable TEST_KWALITEE to enable these tests
t/99_pod-coverage................skipped
        all skipped: Enable TEST_POD environment variable to test POD
t/99_pod.........................skipped
        all skipped: Enable TEST_POD environment variable to test POD
t/engine/danga-socket/01_load....ok
t/engine/danga-socket/04_dns.....

	and hangs forever. I kill that test and get this summary:

Failed Test                    Stat Wstat Total Fail  List of Failed
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
t/02_config.t                     1   256     2    1  2
t/engine/danga-socket/04_dns.t    0    15    20   40  1-20
5 tests skipped.
Failed 2/14 test scripts. 21/100 subtests failed.

	All that should be in the report.

	Repeat with maint@31223, same result, this time without sent report
	because it was not running from the CPAN shell. Same failure on danga
	for 5.8.8 but 5.8.8 doesn't have the 02_config failure.

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=29660

2007-09-28  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* MSISK/HTML-TableExtract-2.10.tar.gz: I had already RTed months ago
	that it is due to the HTML::TreeBuilder but did I write it into a
	distroprefs file? Yes, Sir, I have:
	distroprefs/MSISK.HTML-TableExtract.yml and that is why since then I
	have ONLY fails.

	Would be cool to offer a fix though.

	But in the interest of sanity it would be better to write a distroprefs
	file automatically that's based on some criterium like, say, no release
	for over N months although since that many months nothing but fail
	reports. This would also be interesting for CPANTS.

	* Todo: write a history of used distroprefs docs so we can identify
	which ones are never used and can be purged.

2007-09-25  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* MIME-tools-5.421 give me a major headache the testsuite (sometimes?)
	runs into a tight loop of 'Warning: Use of "require" without parentheses
	is ambiguous at (eval 5493800) line 1.' At least now twice for 31952 and
	31955.

	I have to kill this one:
	
sand     14150 55.2 45.6 714620 710088 pts/16  R+   01:32  88:43 /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pN0oLia/perl-5.8.0@31955/bin/perl -w t/Gauntlet.t

	But the next test has the same problem

sand     30860 64.8  1.3  24940 20572 pts/16   R+   04:13   1:14 /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pN0oLia/perl-5.8.0@31955/bin/perl -w t/Head.t

	And then again for

sand     30969 50.5  0.6  13924  9600 pts/16   R+   04:15   0:14 /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pN0oLia/perl-5.8.0@31955/bin/perl -w t/Misc.t

	I repeatedly verify who has the problem with such commands:

% lsof -p 30969|grep cwd
perl    30969 sand  cwd    DIR    9,1    4096 17304047 /home/sand/.cpan/build/MIME-tools-5.421-fuesqd

	But then one after the other

sand     31244 49.3  0.8  16868 12544 pts/16   R+   04:17   0:23 /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pN0oLia/perl-5.8.0@31955/bin/perl -w t/Parser.t
sand     31363 46.6  0.8  17768 13480 pts/16   R+   04:18   0:21 /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pN0oLia/perl-5.8.0@31955/bin/perl -w t/ParserEncoded.t
sand     31578 34.0  0.6  14100  9888 pts/16   R+   04:20   0:09 /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pN0oLia/perl-5.8.0@31955/bin/perl -w t/ParserPreamble.t
sand     31608 52.5  0.8  17696 13376 pts/16   R+   04:20   0:27 /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pN0oLia/perl-5.8.0@31955/bin/perl -w t/Ref.t

	Now we're done. I urgently need a solution for that. Both for a
	bugreport and for the meta stuff with probably POE. Or commandline.

	Interesting enough is that Mt-5.421 is young and I have 4 OKs up to
	31945. Compare autobundle with @31945 and @31952 and @31955:

	/home/sand/.cpan/Bundle/Snapshot_2007_09_25_0[012].pm

	Diffs are worthless because the latter two were killed. But I can reproduce the bug.

	http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl5.porters/browse_thread/thread/c69cf6ab2b16f985/62b09eab3381584f?lnk=gst&q=%22is+ambiguous%22&rnum=8#62b09eab3381584f

	How could I forget that thread.
	

2007-09-22  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* between bleadperl 31895 and 31937 we went from 215 fails to 159.
	Supercool but still hard to write good reports about it.

	* Bug in RECENT code: somebody removes a file from PAUSE and forgets to
	pass over to the RECENT file. Then the receiver needs a more tolerant
	strategy than the current one. Currently he retries until he gets the
	deleted file which is never and only then he would publish his own
	RECENT file.

	* Net-DNS also broke recently
	
	2007-09-17T14:22 	perl 	31882 	239 	OLAF/Net-DNS-0.61.tar.gz 	NOT OK
	2007-09-15T00:06 	perl 	31866 	110 	OLAF/Net-DNS-0.61.tar.gz 	OK

	and since then 4 NOT OKs and then when Test::Simple 0.72 appeared

	2007-09-21T13:33 	perl 	31937 	472 	OLAF/Net-DNS-0.61.tar.gz 	OK
	2007-09-19T10:43 	perl 	31895 	242 	OLAF/Net-DNS-0.61.tar.gz 	NOT OK

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=29558

2007-09-21  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* sand sand 2421684982 Sep 21 22:14 megainstall.20070921T0555.out

	% tail -6 logs/megainstall.20070921T0555.out|uniq
Warning: Use of "require" without parentheses is ambiguous at (eval 2354390) line 1.
closedir() attempted on invalid dirhandle DIR at /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/prTyqXp/perl-5.8.0@31933/lib/site_perl/5.10.0/Mail/Field.pm line 91.


2007-09-19  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* bug: the locking in the recentfile seems broken. yesterday the yaml
	file got truncated at Tue Sep 18 13:56:04 2007

2007-09-18  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* new fails (everything related to Test::Simple?)
		
	PAJAS/XML-LibXML-1.64.tar.gz[172]
	PAJAS/XML-LibXSLT-1.63.tar.gz[173]
	PETDANCE/WWW-Mechanize-1.30.tar.gz[200]
	PETDANCE/Test-WWW-Mechanize-1.14.tar.gz[204]
	BDFOY/Test-Manifest-1.17.tar.gz[208]
	URI/File-Slurp-9999.12.tar.gz[220]
	ADAMK/File-Flat-1.00.tar.gz[222]
	ADAMK/Test-Inline-2.207.tar.gz[224]
	OLAF/Net-DNS-0.61.tar.gz[239]
	RJBS/Email-Valid-0.179.tar.gz[240]
	MIYAGAWA/Email-Find-0.10.tar.gz[241]
	HEX/WWW-Live365-0.12.tar.gz[272]
	BBC/File-Policy-1.005.tar.gz[344]
	BBC/Email-MIME-CreateHTML-1.026.tar.gz[348]
	MIYAGAWA/Email-Valid-Loose-0.05.tar.gz[415]
	MIROD/XML-Twig-3.29.tar.gz[576]
	AMBS/XML/XML-DT-0.47.tar.gz[585]
	TBONE/Net-FTP-Common-6.0.tar.gz[653]
	JMGDOC/OpenOffice-OODoc-2.035.tar.gz[721]
	RCAPUTO/POE-Component-Client-DNS-1.00.tar.gz[728]
	RCAPUTO/POE-Component-Client-Keepalive-0.1000.tar.gz[729]
	CFRANKS/HTML-Widget-1.11.tar.gz[787]
	SRI/Catalyst-Plugin-HTML-Widget-1.1.tar.gz[788]
	YANICK/XML-XPathScript-1.52.tar.gz[836]
	BINGOS/POE-Component-Server-IRC-1.18.tar.gz[873]
	MIYAGAWA/CGI-Untaint-email-0.03.tar.gz[904]
	SCHUBIGER/Module-Build-Convert-0.49.tar.gz[915]
	MUIR/modules/Daemon-Generic-0.51.tar.gz[920]
	JROCKWAY/Directory-Scratch-0.12.tar.gz[984]
	PARDUS/File-MimeInfo/File-MimeInfo-0.14.tar.gz[1077]
	LBROCARD/Test-WWW-Mechanize-Catalyst-0.40.tar.gz[1079]
	YARON/WWW-Monitor-0.24.tar.gz[1087]

	* AndyA: > Ah sorry about that. We've recently added a line that says

  > Result: PASS
  > Result: FAIL
  > Result: NOTESTS

  > That was added to make life easier for CPAN::Reporter and other meta-
  > harnesses.

  > Does that help at all? We're committed to keeping that. If we ever


	* PDL broke a while back

	2007-07-24T21:46 	perl 	31650 	1001 	CSOE/PDL-2.4.3.tar.gz 	NOT OK
	2007-07-24T00:10 	perl 	31649 	790 	CSOE/PDL-2.4.3.tar.gz 	OK

	since then it's red, seemingly failing on the make phase. re-testing
	with an older perl, @31613, succeeds on the make phase. But this doesn't
	prove anything because all prereqs are already there. And then it fails
	on the test phase in t/xvals.t. 31650 also failed on xvals.t. Now we
	have a prove that it's not blead related but to some other factor.

	But now, what has been upgraded on 31613 since then? Unfortunately
	timestamps have changed because of the cleanup of hardlinks. autobundle
	comparisons don't help because I have no succeeding version of PDL at
	hand.

	I'll have to try these:

installed-perls/perl/prYHaRP/perl-5.8.0@31021/bin/perl FAIL
installed-perls/perl/pnKRDVH/perl-5.8.0@31078/bin/perl FAIL
installed-perls/perl/p9kRmP3/perl-5.8.0@31113/bin/perl FAIL
installed-perls/perl/pn6vGWK/perl-5.8.0@31187/bin/perl FAIL
installed-perls/perl/pOCMj1r/perl-5.8.0@31251/bin/perl FAIL
installed-perls/perl/pbULX5j/perl-5.8.0@31281/bin/perl FAIL
installed-perls/perl/p8ObZoq/perl-5.8.0@31319/bin/perl FAIL
installed-perls/perl/pL3qrBd/perl-5.8.0@31384/bin/perl FAIL
installed-perls/perl/pi12oAh/perl-5.8.0@31429/bin/perl FAIL
installed-perls/perl/pzqCeY9/perl-5.8.0@31509/bin/perl FAIL
installed-perls/perl/pX10SPP/perl-5.8.0@31563/bin/perl FAIL


2007-09-17  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* new fails

  BDFOY/Test-Prereq-1.033.tar.gz[100]
	DROLSKY/DateTime-0.41.tar.gz[144]
	DROLSKY/DateTime-Format-Mail-0.3001.tar.gz[145]
	LLAP/SVG-TT-Graph-0.09.tar.gz[177]
	FGLOCK/DateTime-Set-0.25.tar.gz[227]
	FGLOCK/DateTime-Event-Recurrence-0.16.tar.gz[238]
	KELLAN/DateTime-Format-W3CDTF-0.04.tar.gz[293]
	ABH/XML-RSS-1.31.tar.gz[295]
	RONAN/SVG-Template-Graph-0.12.tar.gz[311]
	MARKSTOS/Data-FormValidator-4.51.tar.gz[461]
	MRAMBERG/Catalyst-Plugin-FormValidator-0.02.tar.gz[462]
	RJBS/Date-Span-1.121.tar.gz[483]
	RJBS/Email-Send-2.185.tar.gz[487]
	JSIRACUSA/Rose-DateTime-0.532.tar.gz[664]
	ROBM/Cache-FastMmap-1.19.tar.gz[708]
	NUFFIN/Catalyst-Plugin-Session-Store-FastMmap-0.03.tar.gz[709]
	NUFFIN/Catalyst-Plugin-Session-State-Cookie-0.08.tar.gz[710]
	MRAMBERG/Catalyst-Plugin-Authentication-Store-DBIC-0.09.tar.gz[712]
	SCHUBIGER/DateTime-Format-Natural-0.39.tar.gz[745]
	JUERD/DBIx-Simple-1.31.tar.gz[829]
	FGLOCK/DateTime-Event-ICal-0.09.tar.gz[835]
	DROLSKY/DateTime-Format-ICal-0.08.tar.gz[836]
	DPAVLIN/Search-Estraier-0.08.tar.gz[843]
	MIYAGAWA/XML-Atom-0.27.tar.gz[857]
	PIJLL/DateTime-Format-Epoch-0.10.tar.gz[876]
	DMAKI/DateTime-Util-Calc-0.13002.tar.gz[878]
	DMAKI/DateTime-Util-Astro-0.11001.tar.gz[879]
	DMAKI/DateTime-Event-Lunar-0.06.tar.gz[880]
	DMAKI/DateTime-Util-Astro-0.08.tar.gz[881]
	DMAKI/DateTime-Event-SolarTerm-0.05.tar.gz[882]
	DMAKI/DateTime-Event-Chinese-0.05.tar.gz[883]
	DMAKI/DateTime-Calendar-Chinese-0.07.tar.gz[884]

	* this came about at 20:37:

Syncing (277/312) A/AJ/AJPEACOCK/CHECKSUMS
Syncing (281/312) B/BL/BLOONIX/CHECKSUMS
Syncing (282/312) C/CA/CASIANO/CHECKSUMS
Syncing (286/312) D/DG/DGRIZZANT/CHECKSUMS
Syncing (288/312) D/DM/DMAKI/CHECKSUMS
Syncing (290/312) F/FE/FERREIRA/CHECKSUMS
Syncing (292/312) H/HM/HMBRAND/CHECKSUMS
Syncing (293/312) J/JO/JOHANL/CHECKSUMS
Syncing (295/312) J/JU/JUERD/CHECKSUMS
Syncing (296/312) M/ML/MLEHMANN/CHECKSUMS
Syncing (299/312) M/MR/MRAMBERG/CHECKSUMS
Syncing (302/312) N/NU/NUFFIN/CHECKSUMS
Syncing (304/312) CHECKSUMS
Syncing (307/312) R/RK/RKRIMEN/CHECKSUMS
Syncing (308/312) S/SL/SLANNING/CHECKSUMS
Syncing (311/312) T/TS/TSCH/CHECKSUMS
Syncing (312/312) W/WY/WYANT/CHECKSUMS

	It seems that we still produce more CHECKSUMS file than necessary.

	* Todo: autobox BBC article

	* http://use.perl.org/~schwern/journal/34469

	Schwern about version advisories. Very nice.

2007-09-16  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* strptime/https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=29330

	How could it happen that strptime broke from one day to the other?
	When exactly did it happen?

	2007-09-11T23:51 	perl 	31847 	DateTime-Format-Strptime-1.0700 	NOT OK
	2007-09-11T10:45 	perl 	31843 	DateTime-Format-Strptime-1.0700 	OK

	Snapshot_2007_09_16_0[01].pm... DROLSKY/DateTime-Locale-0.35.tar.gz
	broke it.

2007-09-13  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Strangely Tie::Cache fails on one bleadperl, 31854. Binary search
	backwards is running. 31863 has it fixed again, need a binary search
	forwards too.

	----Program----
	eval {require Tie::Cache};
	print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
	print "\n";

	----Output of .../pOP4da9/perl-5.8.0@30730/bin/perl----
	OK

	----EOF ($?='0')----
	----Output of .../p8QFKbX/perl-5.8.0@30740/bin/perl----
	N/A

	----EOF ($?='0')----
	Need a perl between 30730 and 30740
	No patch available between 30730 and 30740

	----Program----
	eval {require Tie::Cache};
	print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
	print "\n";

	----Output of .../pz4RKIn/perl-5.8.0@31854/bin/perl----
	N/A

	----EOF ($?='0')----
	----Output of .../pwjI8Em/perl-5.8.0@31855/bin/perl----
	OK

	----EOF ($?='0')----

	30740 is sv_dup() and cache related but 31855 is NAN_COMPARE_BROKEN
	related. Very strange.	

2007-09-11  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/

	says that I tested 

	PASS Acme-Pythonic-0.46 i686-linux-64int 2.6.16-2-k7 	1 message 	andreas.koenig.gmwojprw 	13:47

	That seems to be the same as

	23:00  * GumbyNET2 cpan.testers: PASS Acme-Pythonic-0.46 perl-5.6.2 
          i686-linux-64int 2.6.16-2-k7 andreas.koenig.gmwojprw@franz.ak.mind.de

	22060 22:47:11.7952 test PASS Acme-Pythonic-0.46 (perl-5.6.2) i686-linux-64int 2.6.16-2-k7

	So we have 9 hours time shift.

	* 23:16 <@klapperl> I see no showstopper in CPAN.pm.
23:17 <@klapperl> I'll have a 1.91_54 by next weekend
23:17 <@xdg> All high priority CPAN::Reporter features are in.  (E.g. duplicate 
             report checks by phase)
23:17 <@klapperl> and after a week we could roll 1.92
23:17 <@xdg> Great!
23:17 <@klapperl> great!

	* tentative posting to Module::Build

	Recently, on IRC (off the top of my head):

	<klapperl>: so can you explain why the compatibility layer is broken?
	<ewilhelm>: jeez, it is the *compatibility layer*

	I think it's time that Module::Build considers another compatibility
	layer in addition to the existing one. This is just a raw sketch to get
	some talk going, I have not actually tried to work this out. So what
	would people think of this:

	Build.PL has a new option
	    ...
	    diplomatic_makefile_pl => 1,
	    ...

	generated Makefile.PL
	    if (eval { require Module::Build; 1}){
	      # if user has Module::Build installed we use it
        system $^X, "Build.PL";
	      write_diplomatic_makefile;
	    } else {
	      beg_user_to_install_module_build_asap();
		    write_traditional_compat_makefile();
	    }

	the generated diplomatic Makefile would then contain:
	    default:
	      ./Build
      test:
	      ./Build test
	    install
	      ./Build install
	    [...etc...]

	Has this been tried? Does it have pitfalls? It seems so easy and
	natural. Isn't anybody keen implementing it?

	* switching back to EUMM for one smoke and then back to MB with the
	distroprefs for MethodMaker which needs EUMM.

2007-09-10  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* trying to summarize where Build.PL is inferior to Makefile.PL:

	SCHWIGON/class-methodmaker/Class-MethodMaker-2.10.tar.gz
	   (FLUFFY/Term-ProgressBar-2.09.tar.gz dependent)

	Steffen seems to be the only one.

	* ----Program----
eval q{use autobox 1.10};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../pAtHKhk/perl-5.8.0@25563/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../pGuLryz/perl-5.8.0@25570/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----
Need a perl between 25563 and 25570
No patch available between 25563 and 25570


	* the job with prefer_installer=MB has finished and this are the new fails:

	new fails
    ZOOLEIKA/RDF-Simple-0.3.tar.gz[64],
	  SCHWIGON/class-methodmaker/Class-MethodMaker-2.10.tar.gz[170],
	  FLORA/Net-SSLeay-1.32.tar.gz[376],
	  SULLR/IO-Socket-SSL-1.08.tar.gz[377],
	  AWESTHOLM/Net-SMTP-TLS-0.12.tar.gz[378],
	  HIROSE/Net-SSL-ExpireDate-1.04.tar.gz[518],
	  JASONK/Business-OnlinePayment-2.01.tar.gz[933],
	  JESSE/GnuPG-Interface-0.36.tar.gz[949],
	  SCHWIGON/pdf-fdf-simple/PDF-FDF-Simple-0.11.tar.gz[1058],
	  JPEACOCK/SVN-Notify-Mirror-0.03603.tar.gz[1088],
	  FLORA/Catalyst-View-Mason-0.13.tar.gz[1169],
	  APOCAL/POE-Component-SSLify-0.08.tar.gz[1226],
	  NUFFIN/Catalyst-Plugin-Session-State-Cookie-0.07.tar.gz[1263],
	  DKAMHOLZ/Catalyst-Plugin-Authentication-Store-DBIC-0.07.tar.gz[1264],
	  JROCKWAY/Task-Catalyst-Tutorial-0.03.tar.gz[1270],
	  FLUFFY/Term-ProgressBar-2.09.tar.gz[1273],
	  MARKOV/XML-Compile-0.53.tar.gz[1276],
	  MWS/ResourcePool-1.0104.tar.gz[1282],
	  CHROMATIC/Crypt-CipherSaber-1.00.tar.gz[1293]

	Some problems of a different kind with these, they were either not
	processed at all or the logfile parser did not find them:

	gone
    /home/src/perl/cpan-sql-stuff/CPAN-SQLite/.,
	  ADAMK/Chart-Math-Axis-1.00.tar.gz,
	  AGRUNDMA/Catalyst-Engine-Apache-1.11.tar.gz,
	  ANDYA/Perl-Version-v1.000.tar.gz,
	  BRICAS/Catalyst-Plugin-I18N-0.06.tar.gz,
	  DKAMHOLZ/Authen-Htpasswd-0.16.tar.gz,
	  DKAMHOLZ/Catalyst-Plugin-Authentication-Store-Htpasswd-0.02.tar.gz,
	  DMAKI/DateTime-Util-Astro-0.08.tar.gz,
	  DOWENS/JSON-DWIW-0.13.tar.gz,
	  DROLSKY/HTML-Mason-1.36.tar.gz,
	  ESSKAR/Catalyst-Plugin-Session-Store-File-0.10.tar.gz,
	  FDALY/Test-Deep-0.097.tar.gz,
	  GAAS/Array-RefElem-1.00.tar.gz,
	  HOLOWAY/Catalyst-Log-Log4perl-1.00.tar.gz,
	  JCAMACHO/Catalyst-Controller-FormBuilder-0.04.tar.gz,
	  JDHEDDEN/Object-InsideOut-3.21.tar.gz,
	  JURACH/FCGI-ProcManager-0.17.tar.gz,
	  MARKOV/XML-Compile-0.52.tar.gz,
	  MRAMBERG/Catalyst-Plugin-Prototype-1.33.tar.gz,
	  MSCHWERN/Class-Fields-0.202.tar.gz,
	  NODINE/Text-ASCIIMathML-0.3.tar.gz,
	  NUFFIN/Catalyst-Controller-BindLex-0.03.tar.gz,
	  NUFFIN/Catalyst-Plugin-Session-State-URI-0.07.tar.gz,
	  NWIGER/CGI-FormBuilder-3.0501.tgz,
	  SKIMO/FCGI-0.67.tar.gz


2007-09-09  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* ooooops:

   ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<cpan-testers@perl.org>
    (reason: 550 sorry, your envelope sender is in my badmailfrom list)

	So my last 1842 reports have not been accepted by cpantesters:-(

	* how do ~/.cpanreporter/history.db and ~/.cpanreporter/reports-sent.db sync?

	* Todo/Bug: Alzabo-GUI-Mason runs into endless loops during its dialog with me.
	Some directory doesn't exist, it says.

2007-09-08  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* I just set prefer_installer=MB after @31806 finished. I promised that
	on IRC#toolchain to ewilhelm, need to report after the next smoke.
	Schwern made it a ticket:
	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=29235

	* sorry for the German. This is a bugreport from Slaven describing that
	eexpect/anyorder is slower than necessary, sometimes annoyingly slow. I
	confirm and we tried to hash out solutions.

	>>>>> On 21 Jul 2007 16:01:21 +0200, Slaven Rezic <slaven@rezic.de> said:

 >> > Lösungsvorschläge: der Output wird solange gesammelt, bis es einen
 >> > Match gibt. Dann wird der Match ausgeführt und der bisherige Output
 >> > weggeschmissen (aber was ist, wenn der Output auch schon was vom
 >> > nächsten Match enthält?). Oder du baust aus allen Regexpes ein großes
 >> > per "(" . join("|", grep { $i++%2==0 } @talk) . ")" und fütterst -re
 >> > damit?
 >> 
 >> Noch gefaellt mir der Vorschlag nicht, aber ich glaube, wir kommen der
 >> Sache naeher.

  > Wieso eigentlich?

Sorry, ich habe keinen wirklicher Grund, reines Bauchgefuehl, dass ich
die Konsequenzen nicht ueberblicken kann.

  > Der letzte Vorschlag könnte gut funktionieren, weil
  > dadurch _run_via_expect_anyorder und _run_via_expect_deterministic
  > ähnlicher werden: im ersten Fall gibt es einen Match gegen alle
  > Patterns, im zweiten Fall einen Match gegen genau ein Pattern.

Man sollte auch in Betracht ziehen, was einem Expect selbst fuer
diesen Fall anbietet. Man kann ja alle Regexes gleichzeitig ins Rennen
schmeissen. Irgendwie. So richtig habe ich es damals nicht verstanden,
wie es geht.

 >> Das muesste gehen: wir setzen das Timeout auf eine Viertel Sekunde
 >> oder so. Wenn wir nicht matchen, geben wir erstmal *nicht* auf,
 >> sondern kumulieren. Wenn wir eine gewisse Menge Timeout nichts mehr
 >> erhalten haben und noch immer nicht matchen, geben wir auf. Ansonsten
 >> wie bisher.
 >> 
 >> Irgendwie klingt das zu einfach, um wahr zu sein. Aber ich glaube, das
 >> ist's, was wir beide wollen, und ich sehe keinen Nachteil.
 >> 

  > Ich werd's dann versuchen. Ich habe jetzt übrigens timeout:1 gesetzt,
  > das macht die Sache einigermaßen erträglich.


2007-09-07  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Bug: somebody broke *.bs files with crap content recently. Leads to
	tons of error messages with no (?) consequences but screen noise. I
	removed all these broken *.bs files but now I have no idea where they
	were coming from. Too much smoking produces too thick air.

	Mark Overmeer just complained about the resulting smoke reports. When I
	look into my mailq I find only two large mails waiting for delivery, all
	others are fine. So how do I find out who wrote these files?

	I first remove the crap in my mailq. Done, so we have only 235 mails in
	the mqueue which look OK. For the record, the following are the latest
	smokes (but their dependencies naturally missing). All times CEST. At
	21:27 we had already a broken system.

	Fri Sep  7 02:55:57 2007 JOHANL/Devel-PerlySense-0.01_11.tar.gz
  Fri Sep  7 02:11:40 2007 LUKEC/Socialtext-Resting-RSS-0.01.tar.gz
  Fri Sep  7 01:47:30 2007 JOHANL/Devel-PerlySense-0.01_10.tar.gz
  Fri Sep  7 00:19:12 2007 JUERD/Unicode-Semantics-1.02.tar.gz
  Thu Sep  6 23:48:44 2007 TOBY/Geo-Coordinates-OSGB-2.01.tar.gz
  Thu Sep  6 23:48:32 2007 FDALY/Test-Deep-0.098.tar.gz
  Thu Sep  6 23:38:13 2007 CORION/HTML-Display-0.38.tar.gz
  Thu Sep  6 22:26:16 2007 REEDFISH/Net-FullAuto-0.03.tar.gz
  Thu Sep  6 22:15:57 2007 EMORGAN/MyLibrary-3.0.4.tar.gz
  Thu Sep  6 21:58:05 2007 SLANNING/Ogre-0.24.tar.gz
  Thu Sep  6 21:43:59 2007 AGRUNDMA/POE-Filter-Slim-CLI-0.01.tar.gz
  Thu Sep  6 21:27:22 2007 MARKOV/XML-Compile-0.53.tar.gz
  Thu Sep  6 21:15:48 2007 ATOURBIN/rpm-build-perl-0.6.4.tar.gz
  Thu Sep  6 20:13:56 2007 REEDFISH/Net-FullAuto-0.02.tar.gz
  Thu Sep  6 18:38:06 2007 KEN/XML-XML2JSON-0.02.tar.gz
  Thu Sep  6 18:32:48 2007 REEDFISH/Net-FullAuto-0.01.tar.gz
  Thu Sep  6 18:28:47 2007 PERNST/Bio-Emboss-5.0.0.1.tar.gz
  Thu Sep  6 18:23:26 2007 DROLSKY/HTML-Mason-1.37.tar.gz
  Thu Sep  6 17:47:59 2007 PANGJ/IP-ChinaISP-0.02.tgz
  Thu Sep  6 17:01:12 2007 CASIANO/GRID-Machine-0.077.tar.gz
  Thu Sep  6 15:56:48 2007 JQUELIN/Tk-RotatingGauge-0.02.tar.gz
  Thu Sep  6 13:04:21 2007 JQUELIN/Tk-RotatingGauge-0.01.tar.gz
  Thu Sep  6 13:02:55 2007 ASH/WWW-Mechanize-TreeBuilder-1.00002.tar.gz
  Thu Sep  6 12:51:19 2007 BINGOS/POE-Component-Server-DNS-0.12.tar.gz
  Thu Sep  6 12:43:31 2007 LDS/Bio-Das-1.06.tar.gz
  Thu Sep  6 12:25:40 2007 GCERRAI/Package-Data-Inheritable-0.02.tar.gz
  Thu Sep  6 12:24:07 2007 LDS/Bio-Das-1.05.tar.gz
  Thu Sep  6 12:10:02 2007 CASIANO/GRID-Machine-0.076.tar.gz
  Thu Sep  6 11:44:38 2007 SMUELLER/Math-ConvexHull-1.02.tar.gz
  Thu Sep  6 11:10:25 2007 CASIANO/GRID-Machine-0.075.tar.gz
  Thu Sep  6 11:05:08 2007 GCERRAI/Package-Data-Inheritable-0.01.tar.gz
  Thu Sep  6 10:56:06 2007 DESPAIR/Net-Whois-Raw-1.31.tar.gz
  Thu Sep  6 10:13:05 2007 PJF/IPC-System-Simple-0.06.tar.gz
  Thu Sep  6 08:46:02 2007 DESPAIR/Net-Domain-ExpireDate-0.80.tar.gz
  Thu Sep  6 08:45:50 2007 DESPAIR/Net-Whois-Raw-1.30.tar.gz
  Thu Sep  6 07:45:11 2007 CDOLAN/Net-IP-Match-Regexp-1.00.tar.gz
  Thu Sep  6 06:14:23 2007 JMADLER/Acme-LeetSpeak-0.01.tar.gz
  Thu Sep  6 06:05:20 2007 MKANAT/VCI-0.1.0_3.tar.gz
  Thu Sep  6 04:39:33 2007 TURNERJW/Tk-TextHighlight-1.0.2.tar.gz
  Thu Sep  6 03:12:29 2007 PANGJ/IP-ChinaISP.tgz
  Thu Sep  6 02:42:05 2007 JOHANL/Devel-PerlySense-0.01_09.tar.gz
  Thu Sep  6 02:16:41 2007 JOHANL/Devel-PerlySense-0.01_08.tar.gz
  Thu Sep  6 00:48:24 2007 DAGOLDEN/CPAN-Reporter-0.99_07.tar.gz
  Wed Sep  5 23:52:49 2007 DDICK/Net-DNS-DynDNS-0.95.tar.gz
  Wed Sep  5 23:42:30 2007 CHRMUE/Socket-Class-1.1.0.tar.gz
  Wed Sep  5 23:09:40 2007 PAJOUT/XML-Trivial-0.02.tar.gz
  Wed Sep  5 23:08:13 2007 DAGOLDEN/CPAN-Reporter-0.99_06.tar.gz
  Wed Sep  5 22:57:54 2007 DSNOPEK/POE-Component-MessageQueue-0.1.6.tar.gz
  Wed Sep  5 21:33:13 2007 CORION/HTML-Display-0.37.tar.gz
  Wed Sep  5 21:18:01 2007 KEN/XML-XML2JSON-0.01.tar.gz
  Wed Sep  5 21:16:35 2007 GWYN/Text-Diff-Parser-0.07.tar.gz
  Wed Sep  5 19:33:12 2007 BINGOS/POE-Component-Server-DNS-0.11.tar.gz
  Wed Sep  5 19:15:18 2007 ALEXMASS/InSilicoSpectro-Databanks-0.0.21.tar.gz
  Wed Sep  5 18:29:47 2007 BLBLACK/POE-Loop-Event_Lib-0.001_01.tar.gz
  Wed Sep  5 17:27:54 2007 SMUELLER/Archive-Unzip-Burst-0.02_01.tar.gz
  Wed Sep  5 17:17:35 2007 URKLE/DJabberd-VCard-LDAP-0.03.tar.gz
  Wed Sep  5 17:07:16 2007 KARJALA/MyXML/XML-MyXML-0.0985.tar.gz
  Wed Sep  5 16:10:25 2007 ISAAC/Business-PayPal-EWP-1.00.tar.gz
  Wed Sep  5 16:03:54 2007 DGL/Net-CouchDb-0.01.tar.gz
  Wed Sep  5 15:47:17 2007 JDHEDDEN/threads-shared-1.13.tar.gz
  Wed Sep  5 15:38:10 2007 ISAAC/Business-PayPal-EWP-0.03.tar.gz
  Wed Sep  5 15:22:47 2007 JDHEDDEN/threads-1.65.tar.gz
  Wed Sep  5 15:18:46 2007 JSCHNEID/DBIx-ORM-Declarative-0.21.tar.gz
  Wed Sep  5 14:55:53 2007 JSCHNEID/DBIx-ORM-Declarative-0.20.tar.gz
  Wed Sep  5 14:48:06 2007 YAPPO/Class-Component-0.06.tar.gz
  Wed Sep  5 14:25:13 2007 TBUSCH/Text-Scan-0.29.tar.gz


	Here is still one of the broken bs file:

-rw-rw-rw- 23942 sand sand 2217 Sep  6 22:09 /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/pFrR8O4/perl-5.8.0@31223/lib/5.8.8/i686-linux-thread-multi-64int/auto/File/Glob/Glob.bs

	And I find 163 identical *.bs files scattered all over the place with
	the same timestamp. And they all start with

/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/p4wjLcy/perl-5.8.0@22552/lib/site_perl/5.8.3/i686-linux-thread-multi-64int/Data/Dump/Streamer.pm
/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/p4wjLcy/perl-5.8.0@22552/lib/site_perl/5.8.3/i686-linux-thread-multi-64int/Data/Dump/Streamer/_/Printers.pm
/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/p4wjLcy/perl-5.8.0@22552/lib/site_perl/5.8.3/i686-linux-thread-multi-64int/auto/Data/Dump/Streamer/Streamer.bs
/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/p4wjLcy/perl-5.8.0@22552/lib/site_perl/5.8.3/i686-linux-thread-multi-64int/auto/Data/Dump/Streamer/Streamer.so
/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/p4wjLcy/perl-5.8.0@22552/man/man3/Data::Dump::Streamer.3
/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/pFrR8O4/perl-5.8.0@31223/lib/site_perl/5.8.8/i686-linux-thread-multi-64int/Data/Dump/Streamer.pm
/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/pFrR8O4/perl-5.8.0@31223/lib/site_perl/5.8.8/i686-linux-thread-multi-64int/Data/Dump/Streamer/_/Printers.pm
/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/pFrR8O4/perl-5.8.0@31223/lib/site_perl/5.8.8/i686-linux-thread-multi-64int/auto/Data/Dump/Streamer/Streamer.bs
/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/pFrR8O4/perl-5.8.0@31223/lib/site_perl/5.8.8/i686-linux-thread-multi-64int/auto/Data/Dump/Streamer/Streamer.so
[...]

	What was smoking with 31223 at 22:09? I just searched for my reports on
	rpm-build-perl on http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/ and
	they seem to be fine.

	In my eyes there is only one candidate at the moment: DDS.

	In the meantime Max Maischain (CORION) complained as well.

	Update 2007-09-08: I just discovered that not only the 10 perls were
	broken that I'm using to smoke but many, many others as well. The
	timestamp of the file is 2007-09-06T22:09, they have 2217 bytes and have
	the same md5sum and although I have already deleted plenty of them I
	still count 22049 of these files. Somebody was really busy.

	Hrm. Now I have a suspect. My trimtrees is most likely to blame. These
	files will have the same inode and somebody only changed one random
	zero-byte file without unlinking it first and all this happened. Yes?
	Indeed, the inode is 1855345.

	So I'll have to fix trimtrees:-(
	
2007-09-06  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Something broke my parser for the output of the test runs.
	residuum.yml are the unparsed lines. Ahhh, it's the new //hint// line.
	FIXED.

% ls -l logs/megainstall.200709*.d/residuum.yml
-rw-rw-r-- 1 sand sand   86009 Sep  1 08:05 logs/megainstall.20070901T0114.d/residuum.yml
-rw-rw-r-- 1 sand sand   84530 Sep  1 23:34 logs/megainstall.20070901T1206.d/residuum.yml
-rw-rw-r-- 1 sand sand   71977 Sep  3 03:48 logs/megainstall.20070902T1240.d/residuum.yml
-rw-rw-r-- 1 sand sand 4168125 Sep  5 13:18 logs/megainstall.20070905T0107.d/residuum.yml
-rw-rw-r-- 1 sand sand 4307567 Sep  6 03:28 logs/megainstall.20070905T1716.d/residuum.yml

2007-09-04  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Bug in Pod::XXX: when writing manpage for
	TOBY/Geo-Coordinates-OSGB-2.00.tar.gz there is a pm file with 11 MB.
	Some perls do that without hesitating but others (and they seem to be
	the more recent ones) never seem to finish.

2007-09-02  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Bug: with a Makefile.PL that has a timestamp in the future, we cannot
	proceed very far. Because the generated Makefile will be outdated.
	Likewise with all other files in a distro.

	* Todo: config option to enable code refs in YAML. (LoadCode)
	        rafl: DONE

2007-08-30  Andreas Koenig  <k@andreas-koenigs-computer.local>

	* hashed out on the bus with anonymous, how the endless loop of RECENT
	testing shall look like: one never dying job produces POE sessions that
	shall test some distro with some perl. This queue is always keeping two
	or three jobs active in parallel and watches stdout+stderr. If for more
	than 10 minutes no output is produced the job gets a SIGSTOP and it is
	moved to the unlimited(?) heap of hangers and the next job from the
	queue is made active. Somebody provides us an interface to send stdin to
	one of the hangers. As soon as this is done that job gets queued again
	and is not considered a hanger anymore. The queuerunner will then send
	it a SIGCONT to activate it. Somebody provides us an interface to list
	all hangers, and one to show the output of one hanger.

	http://gumbynet.org.uk/hackintro/
	http://gumbynet.org.uk/hackathon/

	* todo: commit bit for florian

2007-08-29  Andreas Koenig  <k@andreas-koenigs-computer.local>

	* bug from tina: new debian without gcc. Then install Bundle::CPAN and
	it leads to the installation of a Compress::Zlib that does not work
	because it was not compiled. (fakeroot/debootstrap?)

2007-08-28  Andreas Koenig  <k@andreas-koenigs-computer.local>

	* cpan-testers-discuss@perl.org list subscribe

	* RECENT file: quartely/monthly/weekly/daily

	* discussion list/bofs/david golden, foxson, barbie

	* email headers/subject line ==> http upload ==> subscribe/unsubscribe
	==> fail-safeness of email cannot be topped

	* pita...

	* BOF: Offline testing: Smoke needs a way to store the produced emails

	* David Cantrell Feature request: every time I have no distroprefs and
	have to answer some question, CPAN.pm should look over my sholder, record
	the answers and write the according distroprefs file for me. Or
	something.

	* why did the tests not fail when windows 98 had no flock? Because
	Expect was not installed, I think.

	* off topic: get cable back from Ovid

	* Todo: add FUSE stuff to megainstall.txt DONE

2007-08-27  Andreas Koenig  <k@andreas-koenigs-computer.local>

	* recap todos: 

	jariaalto/28952: move gpg key import from Makefile.PL to FirstTime and
	allow tight control over the gpg call itself.

	adam kennedy: set XXX_VERSION

	david cantrell: make verbosity controllable: $redef, myconfig, Lockfile,
	PERL5LIB, DEL, scanning, scan_cache, ... This should probably be done
	with some optprint method to make the call selfdocumenting. But that's
	not the $Frontend's business. We must change
	$CPAN::Frontend->myprint($what) to
	CPAN::Shell->optprint(category,threshold,$what).

	david cantrell: add a CPAN::API::HOWTO manpage DONE

	Integrate cpan_home into the new FirstTime manpage.

	differentiate what to download on which command: an 'a' or 'ls' needs
	only authors index. see also "ttl".

	RECENT file overhaul (see also bin/rsync-over-recentfile.pl)

	demerphq wants time series on a regex analyzer. perl versions are in
	regexec.filelog.gz (but they go back till perl @1; so I'll start with
	27000 I presume), available perls are in
	available-nonthr-debugging-perls.txt. DONE (still need to check the job
	in into the tests repository)

	cleanup build_dir by age regardless size and useable by non-interactive
	users.

	review Test::Reporter and see how the choice between Mail::Send and
	Net::SMTP is implemented.

	review CPAN::Reporter 0.4801.

	BBC article about data::dump::streamer? No! Talk to Yves about it!

2007-08-24  Andreas Koenig  <k@andreas-koenigs-computer.local>

	* 24.8. 2 emails to answer about PAUSE and Adam Monsen.

	* hr ================ no todos below this line ================ /hr

	* hr ================ no todos below this line ================ /hr

	* hr ================ no todos below this line ================ /hr

	* it seems that make test fails on 30shell.t on bleadperl and succeeds
	on maintperl and 5.8.6. :-(

	It is about 'o conf init inactivity_timeout'. Test reproducble with
	'make testshell-with-protocol'

	5.8.6 on OSX succeeds
	31162 (maint) succeeds
	30481 fails
	26727 (maint after installing Expect with sudo) fails somewhere else
	26480 fails
	23494 fails
	23484 (maint after installing Expect with sudo) fails later (after 214)
	20474 fails
	17749 fails
	16000 fails

	I see: the test was expecting that histfile always sets histsize and
	vice versa; this is no longer expected. Changing the test in 2148. FIXED

	* demerphq writes (maybe same bug as RT 28915???):

I was using the bleadperl version of cpan to install a module
(B::Utils) and here is what I saw. The second ...... DONE line took a
long time (more than a minute) to execute, makeing me wonder if it had
crashed, but it finished eventually.

Either File::Spec should be changed to not warn, or CPAN needs to be
changed not to pass undef to File::Spec::Win32::catdir.

Yves
Ps: this output is what i see immediately after installing blead from
rsync. I note that it doesnt require the CPAN config process that I
would have expected.

Yves

cpan shell -- CPAN exploration and modules installation (v1.9102)
ReadLine support available (maybe install Bundle::CPAN or Bundle::CPANxxl?)

cpan[1]> install B::Utils
CPAN: Storable loaded ok (v2.16)
Going to read C:\perl\.cpan\Metadata
  Database was generated on Thu, 01 Feb 2007 02:26:48 GMT
Use of uninitialized value $_ in transliteration (tr///) at
C:/perl/lib/File/Spec/Win32.pm line 141, <FIN> line 1.
Use of uninitialized value $_ in pattern match (m//) at
C:/perl/lib/File/Spec/Win32.pm line 143, <FIN> line 1.
CPAN: Time::HiRes loaded ok (v1.9707)
  LWP not available
CPAN: Net::FTP loaded ok (v2.77)
Fetching with Net::FTP:
  ftp://cpan.etla.org/pub/CPAN/authors/01mailrc.txt.gz
Going to read C:\perl\.cpan\sources\authors\01mailrc.txt.gz
CPAN: Compress::Zlib loaded ok (v2.005)
............................................................................DONE
Use of uninitialized value $_ in transliteration (tr///) at
C:/perl/lib/File/Spec/Win32.pm line 141.
Use of uninitialized value $_ in pattern match (m//) at
C:/perl/lib/File/Spec/Win32.pm line 143.
  LWP not available
Fetching with Net::FTP:
  ftp://cpan.etla.org/pub/CPAN/modules/02packages.details.txt.gz
Going to read C:\perl\.cpan\sources\modules\02packages.details.txt.gz
  Database was generated on Thu, 23 Aug 2007 01:38:11 GMT
  HTTP::Date not available
............................................................................DONE
Use of uninitialized value $_ in transliteration (tr///) at
C:/perl/lib/File/Spec/Win32.pm line 141.
Use of uninitialized value $_ in pattern match (m//) at
C:/perl/lib/File/Spec/Win32.pm line 143.
  LWP not available
Fetching with Net::FTP:
  ftp://cpan.etla.org/pub/CPAN/modules/03modlist.data.gz
Going to read C:\perl\.cpan\sources\modules\03modlist.data.gz
............................................................................DONE
Going to write C:\perl\.cpan\Metadata
Running install for module 'B::Utils'
CPAN: Data::Dumper loaded ok (v2.121_14)
'YAML' not installed, falling back to Data::Dumper and Storable to
read prefs 'C:\perl\.cpan\prefs'
Running make for J/JJ/JJORE/B-Utils-0.05.tar.gz
  LWP not available
Fetching with Net::FTP:
  ftp://cpan.etla.org/pub/CPAN/authors/id/J/JJ/JJORE/B-Utils-0.05.tar.gz
CPAN: Digest::SHA loaded ok (v5.45)
  LWP not available
Fetching with Net::FTP:
  ftp://cpan.etla.org/pub/CPAN/authors/id/J/JJ/JJORE/CHECKSUMS
Checksum for C:\perl\.cpan\sources\authors\id\J\JJ\JJORE\B-Utils-0.05.tar.gz ok
Scanning cache C:\perl\.cpan\build for sizes
............................................................................DONE
B-Utils-0.05/
B-Utils-0.05/MANIFEST
B-Utils-0.05/META.yml
B-Utils-0.05/t/
B-Utils-0.05/t/02basic.t
B-Utils-0.05/Changes
B-Utils-0.05/README
B-Utils-0.05/Makefile.PL
B-Utils-0.05/lib/
B-Utils-0.05/lib/B/
B-Utils-0.05/lib/B/Utils.pm
CPAN: File::Temp loaded ok (v0.18)
Warning (usually harmless): 'YAML' not installed, will not store
persistent state

-- 
perl -Mre=debug -e "/just|another|perl|hacker/"

2007-08-23  Andreas Koenig  <k@andreas-koenigs-computer.local>

	* JARIAALTO@cpan.org at http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=28952

Consider this when installing the CPAN bundle:

  Importing PAUSE public key into your GnuPG keychain... gpg: WARNING:
using insecure memory!
  gpg: please see http://www.gnupg.org/faq.html for more information
  done!
  (You may wish to trust it locally with 'gpg --lsign-key 450F89EC')
  Checking if your kit is complete...
  Looks good
  Writing Makefile for CPAN

SUGGESTION

Not all people use one monolithing GPG keyring, so any automatic
"imports" beyond user control is bad. Please don't automatically import
any keys, but sugest the KEYID or present a gpg key fetch command to use.

Here is an example of the typical use of multiple keyrings to separate
keys according to their use:

$ cat ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf
keyring pubring-remailer.pgp
keyring pubring-sw-development.pgp

In this case the CPAN key would have been put into
pubring-sw-development.pgp, but the CPAN installer script couldn't have
known that.



	* bartl writes in RT 28946:

On Windows 98, with CPAN.pm 1.9102 (ActivePerl 5.8.8 build 822), the
CPAN shell dies as soon as it's started up, with the error message:

  flock() unimplemented on this platform at
D:/programs/ActivePerl5.8/lib/CPAN.pm line 1015.

That line looks like this:

        while (!flock $fh, LOCK_EX|LOCK_NB) {

(And there's another line pretty much like it on line 3397.)

Ironically, before installing this version, I had done nmake test
because I was expecting trouble, and all tests passed. So I don't think
there is any test related to flock. (ActivePerl build 5.8.8 comes with
this version of CPAN, I've had to downgrade because of this problem.)

Among the versions that are still available on CPAN, the first version
to contain flock calls is 1.90. The latest development release still has
these same code lines in those areas, so I don't think the problem has
been resolved yet.

The problem does not exist on a more modern, NT based, version of
Windows, like Windows XP.

	* Schwern writes I should read RT 23735

	summary: kane and adam have had discussions on some IRC channel about
	how to cooperate and have decided on two environment variables that tell
	the other process the rel2abs of the {Makefile,Build}.PL file and the
	$VERSION. Where are the names? Something with _EXECUTING and _VERSION.

	I downloaded CPANPLUS to see what's up. It seems it sets only
	_EXECUTING. This is now also DONE for CPAN.pm.

	* off topic: perlbuzz.com Skud and Andy

2007-08-22  Andreas Koenig  <k@andreas-koenigs-computer.local>

	* Todo: cleanup of the build directory must be possible from a
	non-interactive command. Currently all batch jobs accumulate data in the
	build directory and the first interactive user must then cleanup the
	mess.

	* RT 28915

CPAN::HandleConfig::home does not handle a return of "undef" from
File::HomeDir->my_data. In my particular network configuration this
arises, causing CPAN to incorrectly ignore my ~/.cpan/CPAN/MyConfig.pm
and try to run CPAN::FirstTime::init.  (I'm not sure why it does the
latter, but that's not part of this bug report.)

The details: CPAN is being invoked in a ssh session into an OS X box,
which gets its user account information via NIS.  My account is
"foreign" (i.e. not created on the Mac) and File::HomeDir->my_data()
returns "undef" (which seems appropriate).

Unfortunately, this causes CPAN::HandleConfig::load to ignore my
existing ~/.cpan/CPAN/MyConfig.pm (as the path to it is now wrong) and
to try to create a new one.  (It should be noted that
CPAN::FirstTime::init uses a different algorithm to determine where the
config file goes; it just uses $ENV{HOME}).

The most obvious solution would be to check the return from
File::HomeDir->my_data and if it is "undef" to fall back to using
$ENV{HOME} or File::HomeDir->my_home.

	* Bug: by adding 

	CPAN::HandleConfig->load unless $CPAN::Config_loaded++;

	in CPAN.pm line 1309 I break the whole test 30shell.t. Why? Recursion?

	recurson protection added to load(). DONE.

	* Todo: verbosity; tar_verbosity was a start and it had 'none', 'v', and
	'vv' as options. load_module_verbosity could be 'none' or 'v'. I see no
	sense in a 'vv' option. db_verbosity would cover too many things, maybe
	load_index_verbosity?

	We must give all kinds of noise a name and one or more verbosity levels.

	That which is not our own noise must be delegated to the owner.

	There is a very dirty spot in mydie: it mywarns and then die()s with
	nothing but "\n" as argument.

	This dirty spot shall not disturb us while working on verbosity. It is
	not myprint's business at all.

	See my mail to David Cantrell to understand what needs be done about
	verbosity.

cpan[1]> ls andk                                                                                                  
Going to read /Users/k/.cpan/Metadata
  Database was generated on Sat, 24 Mar 2007 07:10:12 GMT
Going to read /Users/k/.cpan/build/
............................................................................DONE
Found 26 old builds, restored the state of 5
  LWP not available
Fetching with Net::FTP:
  ftp://k75/pub/CPAN/authors/id/A/CHECKSUMS
  Could not connect to host 'k75' with Net::FTP
Fetching with Net::FTP
  ftp://k75/pub/CPAN/authors/id/A/CHECKSUMS.gz
  Could not connect to host 'k75' with Net::FTP

Trying with "/usr/bin/curl -L -f -s -S --netrc-optional" to get
    ftp://k75/pub/CPAN/authors/id/A/CHECKSUMS
^C
Trying with "/usr/bin/curl -L -f -s -S --netrc-optional" to get
  ftp://k75/pub/CPAN/authors/id/A/CHECKSUMS.gz
curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'k75'

Trying with "/usr/bin/curl -L -f -s -S --netrc-optional" to get
    ftp://k75/pub/CPAN/authors/id/A/CHECKSUMS
curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'k75'

Trying with "/usr/bin/curl -L -f -s -S --netrc-optional" to get
  ftp://k75/pub/CPAN/authors/id/A/CHECKSUMS.gz
curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'k75'
^CCaught SIGINT, trying to continue

As a last ressort we now switch to the external ftp command '/usr/bin/ftp'
to get '/Users/k/.cpan/sources/authors/id/A/CHECKSUMS.tmp1178'.

Doing so often leads to problems that are hard to diagnose.

If you're victim of such problems, please consider unsetting the ftp
config variable with

    o conf ftp ""
    o conf commit

^CGot another SIGINT


	* Todo: deprecate cvs_import.

2007-08-21  Andreas Koenig  <k@andreas-koenigs-computer.local>

	* Todo: From David Cantrell: Perfect, thanks!

The only change to the code that I would ask for is that there be some
way of turning off all the startup text and have it die() with a
suitable message if something goes wrong, like ~/.cpan not being
accessible.

A HOWTO.pod with simple four or five line recipes showing how to write
code for the basic functions should suffice as far as extra
documentation goes.  I've attached the bare-bones of one.

	=head1 NAME

CPAN::API::HOWTO - a recipe book for programming with CPAN.pm

=head1 RECIPES

All of these recipes assume that you have put "use CPAN" at the top of
your program.

=head2 What distribution contains a particular module?

    my $distribution = CPAN::Shell->expand(
        "Module", "Data::UUID"
    )->distribution()->pretty_id();

This returns a string of the form "AUTHORID/TARBALL".  If you want the
full path and filename to this distribution on a CPAN mirror, then it is
C<.../authors/id/A/AU/AUTHORID/TARBALL>.

=head2 What modules does a particular distribution contain?

    CPAN::Index->reload();
    my @modules = CPAN::Shell->expand(
        "Distribution", "JHI/Graph-0.83.tar.gz"
    )->containsmods();

You may also refer to a distribution in the form A/AU/AUTHORID/TARBALL.

=head1 SEE ALSO

the main CPAN.pm documentation

=head1 AUTHOR, COPYRIGHT and LICENCE

blah blah blah

=cut




2007-08-18  Andreas Koenig  <k@andreas-koenigs-computer.local>

	* Offline job?

	CPAN::FirstTime manpage. DONE with one exception: cpan_home

	help x. DONE

	'o conf /slash/'. DONE

	ask if we may try to connect to the internet DONE

	differentiate what to download on which command.

	'help TAB' should not start downloading index files. And should then not
	offer all modules and Bundles. FIXED

2007-08-15  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Test the recent file mechanism with very short timespans. See what
	happens when the RECENT file contains no elements or one element. Maybe
	one element must always be kept? Maybe we need a timestamp in the file?
	Maybe the timestamp of the file must be taken into account?

2007-08-13  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* I suspect that Net::FPing only works with threaded perls. Need to
	investigate.

2007-08-11  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* reminder about current operating center:

	seconds:  perl ~k/sources/CPAN/SVK/trunk/bin/loop-over-recent.pl
	   |                                     minutes:  tail -f ~sand/.cpanreporter/history.db
     |                                        |          hours: watch -n 20 '~k/sources/CPAN/SVK/trunk/bin/recent.pl|head -n 23'
     |                                        |                                        |
     v                                        v                                        v

	* long standing bug in configure_requires only visible in the logfiles

	logs/megainstall.20070{727T0705,730T1247,803T0330,810T2248,812T0825}.out

	Somebody injects Apache::Cookie and somebody injects Apache::Request.
	Apache-DBI and Apache-Test have already been installed at this point.
	libapreq is untarred, configure_require hits and before it can resolve
	things correctly configure_require_later is incremented a second time
	and we panic.

	The number of modules installed before the bug happens is low:

	perl -nle '$S{$1}++ if /Running make for ([\040-\177]+)/; END {
   print map { "$_\n" } grep { $S{$_}==5 } keys %S;
}' logs/megainstall.20070{727T0705,730T1247,803T0330,810T2248,812T0825}.out|wc -l
50

	Reading the list reveals nothing inspiring/obvious/spectacular. With
	this tar command I can reproduce the state at the moment when the bug happened:

	tar -xvz -C / -f ./installed-perls-perl-31701.tar.gz

	But I need the command that reproduces it.

	I thought of

	rm -rf ~/.cpan/build/libapreq-1.33-* ~/.cpan/build/mod_perl-1.30-* ~/.cpan/build/Apache-*
	rm -f /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pwRjjSU/perl-5.8.0@31701/lib/site_perl/5.9.5/Apache/DBI.pm /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pwRjjSU/perl-5.8.0@31701/lib/site_perl/5.9.5/i686-linux-64int/Apache/Test.pm

	and then

	cpan> install Apache::DBI Apache::Test Apache::Request

	But this installs mod_perl just fine as it should.

	With a variant of the one liner (bin/confreq_bug_logs.pl) we see more
	clearly what's common to all these failing runs.

2007-08-10  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* HTML::Parser 3.56 broken on my threaded maint perls due to failing threads
	test. How come? Including debian perl. 3.55. tests OK.

t/threads............Can't call method "join" on an undefined value at t/threads.t line 36.
# Looks like your test died before it could output anything.
t/threads............dubious                                                 
        Test returned status 255 (wstat 65280, 0xff00)
DIED. FAILED test 1
        Failed 1/1 tests, 0.00% okay

	libwww mailing list is silent about this:-(

	Hey, the same goes for DBI:

t/05thrclone..............Can't call method "join" on an undefined value at t/05thrclone.t line 74.
# Looks like you planned 43 tests but only ran 2.
# Looks like your test died just after 2.
dubious 
        Test returned status 255 (wstat 65280, 0xff00)
DIED. FAILED tests 3-43
        Failed 41/43 tests, 4.65% okay

	Trying to build threaded perl with maint@31223 FAILS!

	Blead@31701 SAME!

	Blead@28938 which I have built sometime in the past fails too.

	Looks like '2007-07-24 20:09 libc6-i686.list' and that reboot mark an event.

	I'll try gcc-3.4 next. Does not help

	Google leads me to a posting of mine to cpantesters from May, 17 where
	blead@31207 could not build DBI. Nothing that leads me to the real
	cause.

	Either I upgrade to libc6-2.6.1-1 or I ignore the issue. I ask apt-get
	to upgrade and see very discouraging plans with lots of removals. So I
	stop it. I ask aptitude to do it and it suggests to upgrade only these
	four:

	  libc6-xen libc6-i686 libc6-dev libc6 

	without removing anything. This I prefer.

	Without rebooting this doesn't help:

t/op/getpid...................................................Thread creation fa
iled: pthread_create returned 12 at op/getpid.t line 41.
Can't call method "join" on an undefined value at op/getpid.t line 41.
# Looks like you planned 3 tests but ran 1.
FAILED--expected 3 tests, saw 1

	It's probably a limit problem. root can run the test. But I changed
	limits 4 months ago?! But you didn't leave any shell until recently.

	What a stupidity. I set the stack to over a GB. Everything fixed now.
	Unwind the stack now:)

2007-08-08  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* is the output of perl Makefile.PL in the yml file now?

	* binary search requested by Steffen Schwigon

----Program----
eval q{use Term::ReadPassword 0.07};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../plli2XZ/perl-5.8.0@26454/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../pzoOIYJ/perl-5.8.0@26465/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----
Need a perl between 26454 and 26465
(but 26455, 26456, 26457, 26458, 26459, 26460, 26461, 26462, 26463, 26464 could not successfully be used to build perl)
No useable patch available between 26454 and 26465
Patches 26455, 26456, 26457, 26458, 26459, 26460, 26461, 26462, 26463, 26464 could not successfully be used to build perl


2007-08-07  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Feature wish: cleanup by age regardless size

	* Todo: remove RECENT-48:00::00.yaml, let the loop-over-recent script
	run with PERL_MM_USE_DEFAULT, see that 5.6.2 is integrated.

2007-08-04  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Test::Reporter 1.32 came out but switching between Mail::Send and
	Net::SMTP is delayed till 1.34.

	* http://cpandeps.cantrell.org.uk/ dependency graph with test results
	combined

2007-08-03  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Data::Dump::Streamer 2.03 still a weird place to go. Yesterday I
	posted at http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=28270 a quite clear
	solution to the installation bug but nobody reacts.

	After that I could start doing binary searches but they broke again and
	again and gave wrong results. Last result looks interesting

----Program----
eval q{use Data::Dump::Streamer 2.03};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../pDzbqZK/perl-5.8.0@29359/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../pHzMH4R/perl-5.8.0@29360/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----

	reganch heavily involved. Yes, this is it. See
	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=25574.

2007-08-01  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* example perls for the various $]?

installed-perls/perl/pItJUYG/perl-5.7.3@16603/bin/perl    5.007003
installed-perls/perl/p0IId7q/perl-5.8.0@17639/bin/perl    5.008
installed-perls/perl/pocR0se/perl-5.8.0@22312/bin/perl    5.009
installed-perls/perl/pqwklWx/perl-5.8.0@22491/bin/perl    5.009001
installed-perls/perl/pF3yxpB/perl-5.8.0@24139/bin/perl    5.009002
installed-perls/perl/pztoXzt/perl-5.8.0@27002/bin/perl    5.009003
installed-perls/perl/p0fQi13/perl-5.8.0@28966/bin/perl    5.009004

installed-perls/maint-5.8/pAyq3oR/perl-5.8.0@18352/bin/perl    5.008
installed-perls/maint-5.8/pet10ji/perl-5.8.0@20939/bin/perl    5.008001
installed-perls/maint-5.8/p4wjLcy/perl-5.8.0@22552/bin/perl    5.008003
installed-perls/maint-5.8/pKwJ8yG/perl-5.8.0@23004/bin/perl    5.008004
installed-perls/maint-5.8/pOrDlAM/perl-5.8.0@23390/bin/perl    5.008005
installed-perls/maint-5.8/prOuseq/perl-5.8.0@24448/bin/perl    5.008006
installed-perls/maint-5.8/pybSSNM/perl-5.8.0@26876/bin/perl    5.008007
installed-perls/maint-5.8/pdHcRny/perl-5.8.0@31223/bin/perl    5.008008

2007-07-31  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* NUFFIN/Catalyst-Plugin-Session-State-Cookie-0.07.tar.gz started to
	fail on 2007-07-17 between bleadperl@31618 and ...20. 20 is already
	deleted but we can compare with 23.

	When I go back to 18 and try to install it again as distro then I get
	the same failure.

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=28574

2007-07-28  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* libxml2 upgrade broke XML::LibXML but in a minor way so we can write a
	distropref that skips one test

	https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=27659

2007-07-27  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* libwww fails now with a different error than a few days ago.

	* make test fails on 30shell! Does it maybe have to do with LWP missing?
	No. Recent changes to _reload_this() broke it. FIXED.

	* Todo: help x should provide specific help for x

	* Todo: run with CPAN::SQLite

2007-07-26  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* CPAN::Reporter refresh

----Program----
eval q{use CPAN::Reporter 0.46};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../pYGQKvE/perl-5.8.0@30867/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../pCVcKvs/perl-5.8.0@30868/bin/perl----
GXBOK

----EOF ($?='0')----

----Program----
eval q{use CPAN::Reporter 0.46};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../pKsPB4G/perl-5.8.0@29544/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../p7dQLd3/perl-5.8.0@29545/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----

	
2007-07-25  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Bugreport

cpan[7]> install Handel

Recursive dependency detected:
    Handel (have: N/A; want: 1.00003)
 => CLACO/Handel-1.00003.tar.gz
 => Handel::Storage::RDBO (have: N/A; requires: 1.00001)
 => CLACO/Handel-Storage-RDBO-1.00001.tar.gz
 => Handel (have: N/A; requires: 1.00000).
Cannot resolve.

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=28461

2007-07-24  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* CPAN::Reporter fails tests around 30688 but afaik not on current
	bleadperl. Who's to blame?

	* TAP::Parser needs a binary search. 30265 OK, 31008 fails 030-grammar;

	binsearchaperl --bounds 23023-99999 --apcdir /home/src/perl/repoperls/APC --prefix /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls --prog tests/has-TAP-Parser.pl --prep tests/prep-TAP-Parser.pl --verbose -build

	30676 is from Mar 22, 02:53 and works. I fear I must remove it to see if
	it still works when freshly compiled.

	http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl5.porters/browse_thread/thread/2968145308e42c67/bd05f62142673f32
	
2007-07-23  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* CPAN::Unwind: 20070423T0905 saw the first time C<Couldn't get tarball
	for perl from CPAN at
	/home/sand/.cpan/build/CPAN-Unwind-0.04-DG5lge/blib/lib/CPAN/Unwind.pm
	line 173>

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=28426

2007-07-22  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Devel::EvalContext-0.08 is chasing me again and I see it working with
	27002. But Data-Alias-1.0[56] do not compile with e.g. 29487. Is an
	older Data::Alias at backpan? Where is backpan nowadays?

ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/backpan
http://ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/backpan
rsync://nic.funet.fi/backpan

	YES! HERE it is:

	http://ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/backpan/authors/id/X/XM/XMATH/Data-Alias-1.04.tar.gz

	Here I conclude that I should mirror this directory and put the mirror
	second in the urllist and put the backpan last in the list.

	Then I need to see under which patchlevel I need to try with 1.04 and
	rewrite the prep script.

	Patchlevel 28990 does not compile 1.05 nor 1.0[432] but 1.01 OK. And
	with 1.01 we get Devel::EvalContext OK.

	blead			Data::Alias		Devel::EvalContext
	27002			1.05 OK				0.08 OK
	28966			1.05 OK				0.08 OK
	28990			1.01 OK				0.08 OK
	29487			1.01 OK				0.08 OK
	30019			1.03 OK				0.08 OK
	30646			1.03 OK				0.08 OK
	30969			1.03 OK				0.08 OK
	31061			1.04 OK				0.08 OK
	31157			1.05 OK				0.08 OK
	31251			1.05 OK				0.08 OK
	31252			1.06 OK				NOT OK

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=28425

	It's really not a bleadperl problem.

	* jumpqueue takes as arguments short arrayreferences. We must put some
	aiming_at argument there containing get/make/test/install. Because we
	will see configure_require dependencies that must be treated accordingly
	when they only said get or make.

2007-07-21  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* SVG-Metadata needs a binary search. I suspect pseudo hashes. Very ugly
	result:

----Program----
eval q{use SVG::Metadata 0.28};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../p0IId7q/perl-5.8.0@17639/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../pINt5Dc/perl-5.8.0@17705/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----
Need a perl between 17639 and 17705
(but 17641, 17642, 17644, 17654, 17655, 17656, 17671, 17672, 17673, 17674, 17675, 17676, 17677, 17678, 17679, 17680, 17681, 17682, 17683, 17684, 17685, 17686, 17687, 17688, 17689, 17690, 17691, 17692, 17693, 17694, 17695, 17696, 17697, 17698, 17699, 17700, 17701, 17702, 17703, 17704 could not successfully be used to build perl)
No useable patch available between 17639 and 17705
Patches 17641, 17642, 17644, 17654, 17655, 17656, 17671, 17672, 17673, 17674, 17675, 17676, 17677, 17678, 17679, 17680, 17681, 17682, 17683, 17684, 17685, 17686, 17687, 17688, 17689, 17690, 17691, 17692, 17693, 17694, 17695, 17696, 17697, 17698, 17699, 17700, 17701, 17702, 17703, 17704 could not successfully be used to build perl

	pseudo hashes were extinct, when? 17725!

	So it isn't a pseudo hash thing? well, 17705 failed because XML::Twig
	was not working then. But when I 'force notest install XML::Twig', then
	SVG::Metadata passes its tests.

	Next round of binsearch with the fixed 17705. And then I had to find out
	that SVG::Metadata does not declare its dependency on HTML::Entities and
	had to install that manually into some involved perls and finally I got:

----Program----
eval q{use SVG::Metadata 0.28};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../pjEfwQE/perl-5.8.0@17724/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../pg7Kp5D/perl-5.8.0@17725/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----


	* Assertion: Environment is being set during perl {Build,Makefile}.PL?

	iow: is set_perl5lib called from within get or its deputies? Yes, in
	line 7193 within make

	* Idea: new option to cleanup the build_dir not by size but by age.

	* Todo: with the new sendmail configuration I should retry if mailtools
	work now. Which perl is good for that? Stock 5.8.8 should do and note
	there is a 2.00_xx! For install I can configure back to using sudo. But
	all testing should be done by sand because there is the reporter DB. So
	this time I want to disable prefs? No, k installs, sand tests.

	Yes, even with Test::Reporter 1.27 the mail from Mail::Send seems to
	have been accepted for delivery (RJBS/Test-BinaryData-0.003.tar.gz). Now
	with Test::Reporter 1.30 I tried KWILLIAMS/Path-Class-0.16.tar.gz. And
	finally with MARKOV/MailTools-2.00_01.tar.gz I try
	JROCKWAY/Directory-Scratch-0.12.tar.gz

	Mails went out through sendmail.

	Mailq is empty. But the mails did not come back to me on the
	subscription address. Nor to Google
	http://groups.google.com/group/perl.cpan.testers/topics?lnk=srg

	Let me compare the 3 mails above with the last mail before that. It was
	about BPAN. A bad one with Mail::Send:

# egrep 'l6L5ZkbD030283' /var/log/mail.info
Jul 21 07:35:46 k75 sendmail[30283]: l6L5ZkbD030283: from=sand, size=5897, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<200707210535.l6L5ZkbD030283@k75.linux.bogus>, relay=sand@localhost
Jul 21 07:35:46 k75 sm-mta[30284]: l6L5Zk0d030284: from=<sand@k75.linux.bogus>, size=6121, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<200707210535.l6L5ZkbD030283@k75.linux.bogus>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MSA, relay=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]
Jul 21 07:35:46 k75 sendmail[30283]: l6L5ZkbD030283: to=cpan-testers@perl.org, ctladdr=sand (1005/1005), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=35897, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (l6L5Zk0d030284 Message accepted for delivery)
Jul 21 07:35:59 k75 sm-mta[30286]: l6L5Zk0d030284: to=<cpan-testers@perl.org>, ctladdr=<sand@k75.linux.bogus> (1005/1005), delay=00:00:13, xdelay=00:00:13, mailer=esmtp, pri=126121, relay=mx.develooper.com. [63.251.223.176], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (Queued! 1184996159 qp 27112 <200707210535.l6L5ZkbD030283@k75.linux.bogus>)

	And a good one with Net::SMTP:

# egrep 'l6L5MQN5027327' /var/log/mail.info
Jul 21 07:22:26 k75 sm-mta[27327]: l6L5MQN5027327: from=<andreas.koenig.gmwojprw@franz.ak.mind.de>, size=4884, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<200707210522.l6L5MQN5027327@franz.ak.mind.de>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]
Jul 21 07:22:39 k75 sm-mta[27329]: l6L5MQN5027327: to=<cpan-testers@perl.org>, delay=00:00:13, xdelay=00:00:12, mailer=esmtp, pri=124884, relay=mx.develooper.com. [63.251.223.176], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (Queued! 1184995359 qp 21633 <200707210522.l6L5MQN5027327@franz.ak.mind.de>)


	Too obvious. CPAN::Reporter or Test::Reporter is unable to set the from
	address when switching to Mail::Send.

	Stepping through the debugger. Test::Reporter::_mail_send line 344 sets
	the From correctly. Later Mail::Send passes itself over to Mail::Mailer

  DB<14> n
Mail::Send::open(/usr/local/perl-5.8.8/lib/site_perl/5.8.8/Mail/Send.pm:57):
57:         Mail::Mailer->new(@_)->open($self);
DB<14> x \@_
0  ARRAY(0x85b1c74)
     empty array
DB<15> x $self
0  Mail::Send=HASH(0xbe3ac30)
   'From' => ARRAY(0xbe3c75c)
      0  'andreas.koenig.gmwojprw@franz.ak.mind.de'
   'Subject' => ARRAY(0xbe3c7d4)
      0  'PASS WebService-Mogo2-0.01 i686-linux-64int 2.6.14'
   'To' => ARRAY(0xbe3a9e4)
      0  'cpan-testers@perl.org'
   'X-Reported-Via' => ARRAY(0xbe3be14)
      0  'Test::Reporter 1.30, via CPAN::Reporter 0.46'

	Aha. I have sendmail installed and despite Mail::Send and Mail::Mailer
	carefully keep the $sender and $hdr intact, Mail::Mailer::sendmail
	throws it away because it cannot handle it.

	The documentation of Test::Reporter tells me that I can use
	$tr->mail_send_args(['smtp']); perhaps. So let's try. With MailTool
	2.00_01 I must write a bugreport that there is a syntax error.
	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=28411
	With current version 1.77 there is a failure:

Sending test report with 'pass' to cpan-testers@perl.org
        (in cleanup) Undefined subroutine &Mail::Mailer::smtp::close called at /usr/local/perl-5.8.8/lib/site_perl/5.8.8/Mail/Mailer.pm line 204.
Catching error: 'Undefined subroutine &Mail::Mailer::smtp::close called at /usr/local/perl-5.8.8/lib/site_perl/5.8.8/Mail/Mailer.pm line 133.
        (in cleanup) Undefined subroutine &Mail::Mailer::smtp::close called at /usr/local/perl-5.8.8/lib/site_perl/5.8.8/Mail/Mailer.pm line 204.
' at lib/CPAN.pm line 275
        CPAN::shell() called at -e line 1

	So maybe the mail was sent but it certainly was a die() before the
	bookkeeping was done:-( No, from the logfile it seems there was no mail
	sent at all.

	So I try again with 2.00_01 and insert an "or" before the return to fix
	the syntax. This dies without an error message.

	So I come to the conclusion that I must fix Test::Reporter for me.

	IS this all I need?

  - use constant FAKE_NO_MAIL_SEND => 0;  # for debugging only
  + use constant FAKE_NO_MAIL_SEND => 1;  # for debugging only

	YES!

2007-07-19  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Bug: 'fforce get STAS/libapreq-1.33.tar.gz' runs into an endless loop.
	All the configure_requires stuff is only working for "install", often
	not for get/make/test. The first get must keep a record that it has
	already tried the other get so it won't repeat this step.

	And I saw "Panic: ..." from

    $CPAN::Frontend->mydie("Panic: A prerequisite is not available, please investigate...");

	and this is presumably the spot where I should look into
	sponsored_modules (sp?)

2007-07-18  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=28369 about
	WRW/Barcode-Code128-2.01.tar.gz

	* http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=28370 about
	CHROMATIC/Crypt-CipherSaber-1.00.tar.gz

2007-07-17  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* 0 E. [17-Jul 229: David Golden        ] Re: FAIL Module-Mask-0.03 i686-linux 2.4.27-3-686
	
	* binarysearch for J/U:r

	23023 YAML::Syck
	26015 YAML, Jifty::DBI
	27939 
	28005 Params::Validate, DateTime (P:V 0.86 broke at 27942)
	28513 DateTime::Format::Strptime
	29023 DateTime::Format::Strptime
	29527 
	

	OMG, I see all the UNIVERSAL::require errors and then an "ok" so it gets
	installed just to prove my testing pointless:-(

	
	30019 YAML::Syck


	* UNIVERSAL::require and Jifty have some broken relationship. Maybe we
	could run a binary search with a very limited test? The testsuite of
	UNIVERSAL-require-0.11 has no issues with bleadperl but Jifty uses U:r
	it in a way that fails since day X. t/00-load.t would do for the binary
	search. Let's disable CPAN::Reporter and add the test/args:
	TEST_FILES=t/00-load.t to the distroprefs file. And
	cpanconfig/test_report: 0.

	Not possible because Jifty-DBI-0.41 fails with 23023. And PASS 94 : FAIL
	68 is not encouraging to continue with this test. Since 2007-06-29T20:11
	I haven't seen a PASS for Jifty::DBI.

	t/10schema.t    7  1792   147    7  16 20 27 33 39 45 51

	But Jifty::DBI from SVN works, so we can adjust everything to 

2007-07-15  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* off topic: working on Module::Build for "the corridor". Trying to
	determine the exact boundaries of the corridor. The lower end is not
	that hard to determine because binarysearch finds its way through the
	area. But the upper boundary is slow because for some reason questions
	are being asked by, e.g. 25125. Ah, it is within the corridor. 26003 is
	outside. First broken perl is 23190, last one is....25414.

	And running make test in SVN rev. 9738 with my fixes:

	% for p in /usr/local/perl-5.6.2/bin/perl /usr/local/perl-5.8.[01378]/bin/perl /usr/local/perl-m-5.8.0@31162/bin/perl /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/p*/perl-5.*@{23190,24139,25125,25414,31614}/bin/perl ; do
$p Build.PL&&./Build test || break
done

2007-07-14  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Todo: investigate version.pm and Module::Build in the 23000-25000
	corridor. I recently posted the problem and Schwern made a suggestion I
	need to test against.

	* TMOERTEL/Test-LectroTest-0.3500.tar.gz started to fail with 31613 but
	it had already a fail with 31429. Reproducable? The test takes a very
	long time, tempting to press ^C. OK, after a couple of minutes, all
	tests OK.

	This is the FAIL with 31613:

t/gens............
#   Failed test 'Float(sized=>0,range=>[-400,-200]) dist mean is -300 (z-score = -3.93)'
#   at t/gens.t line 1149.
#     '3.92902581170997'
#         <
#     '3.89'
# Looks like you failed 1 test of 248.
dubious
^ITest returned status 1 (wstat 256, 0x100)
DIED. FAILED test 55

	And this with 31429:

t/gens............
#   Failed test 'String() length under sizing [1..1] dist mean is 0.5 (z-score = -3.98)'
#   at t/gens.t line 1149.
#     '3.98295682672687'
#         <
#     '3.89'
# Looks like you failed 1 test of 248.
dubious
^ITest returned status 1 (wstat 256, 0x100)
DIED. FAILED test 174

	(150:2:0:0)

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=28203

	* Test-Inline-2.204.tar.gz missing depe

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=28139

	* RJBS/Email-MIME-1.859.tar.gz started to fail between 2007-07-14T05:07
	and 2007-07-13T08:07 which is between 31600 and 31613.

	The FAIL with 613 is now reproducable. The OK with 600 is not
	reproducable anymore, some update since then has broken it.

	The last OK before was with 2007-07-12T22:46 (31599). This OK is
	reproducable.

	So I'll compare autobundle of 599 and 600.

	I see that Email::Simple was updated from 1.999 to 2.001.

	When I install 1.999 on 31613? Then Email-MIME-1.859 passes all tests.

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=28170 (reported by pmei
	<petermei@gmail.com>)
	
	* Idea: new options how to treat Module::Install. I could peek into the
	Makefile.PL and guess if it is a Module::Install based one or maybe look
	at inc/Module/Install.pm. Then what?

	Answer Auto-Install questions with "y", "n", DEFAULT? Make a difference
	between optional and mandatory? Realize that "n" would not work because
	for mandatory stuff they then ask. "Really...". Hrmmm. Ask Adam?

	I suppose he would recommend to set the PERL_MM_USE_DEFAULT variable.
	That would choose DEFAULT.

	* Todo: complete the show_xxx_version config parameters DONE

	* I want to use ^C during recent to mean that I do not want to continue
	to read this document. DONE

	* Net::FTP::Commom now in RT because of frequent test failures:

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=28195

	* DBIx-Timeout just now got a ticket for a missing dependency and of
	course a distropref too.

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=28193

2007-07-13  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* ANDYA/Set-IntSpan-Fast-v1.0.tar.gz is still reported an newer than the
	installed 1.000000 ?! I just saw it with 5.8.9-tobe, never with blead,
	maybe because I never run the r command with blead?

	Retesting with 31599:

cpan[1]> r /intspan/
CPAN: Storable loaded ok (v2.16)
Going to read /home/sand/.cpan/Metadata
  Database was generated on Thu, 12 Jul 2007 20:50:00 GMT
CPAN: YAML::Syck loaded ok (v0.94)
Going to read /home/sand/.cpan/build/
............................................................................DONE
Found 606 old builds, restored the state of 463

Package namespace         installed    latest  in CPAN file
Set::IntSpan::Fast             v1.0  1.000000  ANDYA/Set-IntSpan-Fast-v1.0.tar.gz
1 installed module has a version number of 0
  they are
        Module  < Set::IntSpan::Fast     (ANDYA/Set-IntSpan-Fast-v1.0.tar.gz)

	Uhhh, ohhh.

	This was really two bugs: one that we believed that "v1.0" was 0. FIXED now

	The other is that I believe that trailing ".0" should not actually be
	treated as significant. This mainly because version.pm's numify really
	translated v1.0 to 1.000000 and has no roundtrip between numify and
	normal:

	% /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/*/p*/perl-5.*@31614/bin/perl -Mversion -le 'print version->new(version->new("v1.0")->numify)->normal'
v1.0.0

	I adjusted CPAN::Version to trim trailing ".0" (but keep one).

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=28206

2007-07-12  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* HTTP::Server::Simple random test results

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=28122

2007-07-11  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Exporter::Simple now has its test scripts but the binary search points at

	Change 29023 by stevep@stevep-kirk on 2006/10/15 17:17:32
	    Upgrade to Time-HiRes-1.93.

	What a crap! The reason turns out to be that I have distroprefs files
	that 1.8855 could not grok and 1.8855 was not forward compatible and
	very misbehaving visavis unknown parameters. FINISHED after some days

	* Encode::IBM fails at 'make install' after successful make test

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=28090

	* Brandon Black suggests that ftp: URLs shall not be tried before all
	http URLs have been tried with all external programs we could find.

	We currently do this: the outer loop is about easy/hard/hardest where
	easy means LWP+Net::FTP, hard has the code for external programs,
	hardest is about an external "ftp" program. The inner loop iterates over
	URLs. His suggestion means that we shall devide the URLs into http and
	ftp and shall run:

	easy with file
	easy with http
	hard with http
	easy with ftp
	hard with ftp
	hardest (which is ftp only per definition)

	Test it with ftp://AFTP, http://BHTTP, file://CFILE and 'get
	DDDD/notexist-0.0.tar.gz'

	I see:

Fetching with LWP:
  file://CFILE/authors/01mailrc.txt.gz
Fetching with LWP:
  http://BHTTP/authors/01mailrc.txt.gz
Trying with "/usr/bin/curl -L -f -s -S --netrc-optional" to get
    http://BHTTP/authors/01mailrc.txt.gz
Trying with "/usr/bin/wget -O /home/k/.cpan/sources/authors/01mailrc.txt.tmp14022" to get
    http://BHTTP/authors/01mailrc.txt.gz
Trying with "/usr/bin/lynx -source" to get
    http://BHTTP/authors/01mailrc.txt.gz
Fetching with LWP:
  http://www.perl.org/CPAN/authors/01mailrc.txt.gz

	No, this is a new bug. Before we send them to perl.org, we should try
	the ftp URL. So we need 5 steps more for the default URLs for a total of
	11. Very nice. Seems to work now but needs a rewrite in a less obscure
	style: tuples instead of strings that get manipulated and maybe a
	$filter argument to reduce the number of necessary methods.

	DONE.

2007-07-09  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* [09-Jul  60: Steve Peters        ] Help in finding bleadperl test failures

	Steve asks for help with MasonX::Interp::WithCallbacks. But I have to
	backtrack because this is a case of shadowing. 28840 had issues with a
	prereq, namely DWHEELER/Params-CallbackRequest-1.17.tar.gz. So now I
	need two binary searches for that, 23023-28840-31573 to determine where
	the shadowing starts and where it ends and then continue with the initial
	request.

	DONE

	* Exporter::Simple still has no has- and prep- Script

	Answer:

	Stevan Little        
	Alex Vandiver        Another possible BBC candidate
	Father Chrysostomos  [PATCH] Perl::Repository::APC on Mac OS X

	DONE

2007-07-08  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* new fails

	BDFOY/Module-Release-1.16.tar.gz       something with pod coverage
	
	CHANG-LIU/XML-Node-0.11.tar.gz         new (again) dependency detected, distropref
	                                       written, bug reported:
	                                       http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=27573

	LBROCARD/GraphViz-2.02.tar.gz          depends on IPC::Run uh, oh!

	MSISK/HTML-TableExtract-2.10.tar.gz    known from #20709

	RSOD/IPC-Run-0.80.tar.gz
                                         it has failed a few times in the
																				 past and this failure is not
																				 reproducable
	
  STAS/libapreq-1.33.tar.gz              undecl dependency on mod_perl

	* Todo: eliminate Bundle::{PDF,Unicode} from megainstall DONE

	* Todo: Revisit RT #25627 about Module::Install / Zoidberg DONE

2007-07-07  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* The uploaded file

    CPAN-1.91_51.tar.gz

has entered CPAN as

  file: $CPAN/authors/id/A/AN/ANDK/CPAN-1.91_51.tar.gz
  size: 565458 bytes
   md5: bb1fb98f32ffae1e0292cf06a18071e6

	* Actual binary search runs 

----Program----
eval q{use Class::Inner 0.1};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../peBx1NV/perl-5.8.0@30979/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../pyuz7f1/perl-5.8.0@30980/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----

----Program----
eval q{use Readonly; die unless $Readonly::XSokay};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../pbW2H20/perl-5.8.0@23767/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../prc83Ms/perl-5.8.0@23768/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----

----Program----
eval q{use Text::Query 0.07};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../pE7UWJ8/perl-5.8.0@25805/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../pTYOA8A/perl-5.8.0@25808/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----

	
----Program----
eval q{use Safe::Hole 0.10};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../pcms3sA/perl-5.8.0@23023/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../pX10SPP/perl-5.8.0@31563/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----

----Program----
eval q{use Class::constr 2.21};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../p8Kq7EW/perl-5.8.0@24659/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../pgDJivN/perl-5.8.0@24660/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----

----Program----
eval q{use Class::MOP 0.40};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../pG1GE1t/perl-5.8.0@26369/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../pyAT2at/perl-5.8.0@26370/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----

	With 0.40 we have this test failing:

t/003_methods.......................................NOK 13/66                
#   Failed test '... Foo->has_method(FOO_CONSTANT) (defined w/ use constant)'
#   at t/003_methods.t line 89.
t/003_methods.......................................NOK 25/66                
#   Failed test 'The object isa Class::MOP::Method'
#   at t/003_methods.t line 119.
#     The object isn't defined
Can't call method "body" on an undefined value at t/003_methods.t line 122.
# Looks like you planned 66 tests but only ran 25.
# Looks like you failed 2 tests of 25 run.
# Looks like your test died just after 25.
t/003_methods.......................................dubious                  
        Test returned status 255 (wstat 65280, 0xff00)
DIED. FAILED tests 13, 25-66
        Failed 43/66 tests, 34.85% okay
	[...]
	t/003_methods.t  255 65280    66   84  13 25-66

	So apparently NOT 081_meta_package_extension which was failing in March.


	* Thanks to Alexandr Ciornii this is my program for the next days:

	Class::MOP           BBCed
	Class::constr        BBCed
	Safe::Hole           wfm
	Text::Query          BBCed
	Readonly::XS         BBCed
	Class::Inner         BBCed
	Exporter::Simple     2007-07-12 akoenig BBCed

	* SBURKE/Sort-ArbBiLex-4.01.tar.gz breaks with 31544 for the first time
	ever. Reproducable?

	* MSCHWERN/Class-Fields-0.202.tar.gz broken by 

Change 31540 by rgs@stcosmo on 2007/07/06 13:58:58

	Upgrade to base and fields 2.12, mostly by Michael G Schwern


2007-07-05  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Encode::Mapper

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=27962

	* Module A depends on B. B depends on C but does not declare the
	dependency. Module C does not exist (anymore). This does not happen, you
	say? A is Devel::ebug::HTTP, B is Catalyst::Plugin::Static, C is
	Catalyst::Engine::Test. The bug is known for 12 months. I've reminded
	MRAMBERG

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=19351

	* There is something that prevents parsing of the logfiles. residuum.yml
	was traditionally between 143k and 345k the last two runs were 449k and
	1658k with 30 and 100 modules respectively left over.

	It has to do with the fact that I now see the pattern 'Running make for
	B/BW/BWARFIELD/GDGraph-1.44.tar.gz' (just an example) twice and between
	the first and the second occurrence there are other important facts for
	other modules, in this case 'Running make for
	Y/YS/YSAS/SWF-File-0.42.tar.gz'. I must find a way to only take the
	second part of these chunks.

2007-07-04  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Toremember: the big loop must run from a window that can connect to
	the X server. Or we must bug the authors that they write tests that are
	not depending on a running window server. Like DISPLAY=:121 ? Does
	AnyEvent behave with that?

	* Today (@31526) potentially new fails seem to be
	LGODDARD/Time-Simple-0.052.tar.gz, JONALLEN/a2pdf-1.13.tar.gz, and
	PCANARAN/HTML-GMap-0.04.tar.gz

	Two autobundle runs compared show several improvements due to "depends"
	but nothing that hints at Time-Simple. PDF::API2::Simple 1.1.2 hints at
	a2pdf and nothing hints at HTML-GMap.

	Time-Simple really failed for the first time ever. The failure can be
	reproduced, even with fforce and with @31515! It has something to do
	with 23:59:59 vs 22:59:59.

	a2pdf has PASS:FAIL 78:13. I see

	Can't load '/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/p7mD5hd/perl-5.8.0@31526/lib/5.9.5/i686-linux-64int/auto/Fcntl/Fcntl.so' for module Fcntl: /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/p7mD5hd/perl-5.8.0@31526/lib/5.9.5/i686-linux-64int/auto/Fcntl/Fcntl.so: undefined symbol: PL_unitcheckav at /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/p7mD5hd/perl-5.8.0@31526/lib/5.9.5/i686-linux-64int/XSLoader.pm line 64.

	This might be a core change? No, it's reproducable with 31515 which was
	previously doing fine with this distro.

	HTML-GMap-0.04 has 0:1, it is new in the arena.

2007-07-03  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Bug: does not seem to uncover recursive dependencies. I speced

match:
  distribution: "^SZABGAB/Spreadsheet-ParseExcel-\d"
depends:
  requires:
    Spreadsheet::ParseExcel::FmtJapan2: 0

	unknowing that this was a recursive dependency. The throttling strategy
	in CPAN::Queue kicked in and I had to kill this run.

	* megainstall with yesterday's version was broken: only 688 distros and
	8 MB logfile. What did the other 550 do?

Looks good
Writing Makefile for classes
Can't use string ("0.25") as a HASH ref while "strict refs" in use at lib/CPAN.pm line 7868.

	FIXED

	* Bug: untar happens twice FIXED

	* To be tested: is the behaviour sane when they say configure_requires:perl:15?

	* Use it for DBI/DBD::SQLite! DONE

	* Revisit all depends/* distroprefs if they were written with the correct
	flavor of *requires. E.g. X500::DN/Parse::RecDescent certainly is a
	"requires" not a "build_requires" but nobody would notice because we
	install P:R later anyway. DONE

	* JROBINSON/SQL-Translator-0.08 has a configure_requires on
	Module::Build::Compat. I saw this today with blead@23190:

	Can't locate Module/Build/Compat.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pvvpo99/perl-5.8.0@23190/lib/5.9.2/i686-linux-64int /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pvvpo99/perl-5.8.0@23190/lib/5.9.2 /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pvvpo99/perl-5.8.0@23190/lib/site_perl/5.9.2/i686-linux-64int /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pvvpo99/perl-5.8.0@23190/lib/site_perl/5.9.2 /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pvvpo99/perl-5.8.0@23190/lib/site_perl .) at Makefile.PL line 4.

	But I don't understand it because my script must have tried to install
	Module::Build for 23190??

	Ahh, I see this is the ugly, ugly version.pm bug that I had some
	exchange about with John Peacock and which affects some interval in the
	23000-25000 area. Have no details at hand but this tells me that I
	cannot run binary searches for SQL::Translator:-(

2007-07-02  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* MM->parse_version() will now try to load version.pm before checking
	the $VERSION of a module (MM 6.35)

2007-07-01  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* From: "Brandon Black" <blblack@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Add B::Generate/Padwalker to core?
To: "Perl 5 Porters" <perl5-porters@perl.org>
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 16:03:52 -0500

On 7/1/07, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab@gmail.com> wrote:
> Telling people who've never bothered with perl before to run cpan -i
> Some::Module can be quite frightning for them. CPAN ask you a
> bazillion questions when you first use it (maybe cpanp fixes this?).
>

5.9.5's default cpan is much better, in that it defaults virtually
everything intelligently and just asks that you pick a mirror for
yourself.  I think defaulting to http transports even for the fetch of
the initial MIRRORED.BY would improve things even more, but that goes
back to http transports not being available in stock Perl on all
platforms.  LWP is a solution, but unlikely to make it into core
anytime soon.  Perhaps if it would at least test for http support (via
LWP or external stuff like wget/curl) and default to using any
available http transport instead of ftp if possible for bootstrapping
mirror lists and module lists, that would improve the situation for
some.

-- Brandon


	* configure_requires needs to be rounded off with distroprefs
	depends/configure_requires most prominently because we can test it
	better if we write some distroprefs that use it.

	* SQL::Translator has an error message that seems to resemble MRO error
	messages. Binary search?

	* Handle N/A because

  ! DBIx::Class::Validation                 0.02000 n/a    
  ! FormValidator::Simple                   0.17    n/a    
  ! SQL::Translator                         0.08    n/a    

	DBIx::Class::Validation => FormValidator::Simple => Email::Valid!
	SQL::Translator!

	* NUFFIN/Catalyst-Plugin-Authentication-0.09.tar.gz,
	NUFFIN/Catalyst-Plugin-Session-0.15.tar.gz,
	NUFFIN/Catalyst-Plugin-Session-State-Cookie-0.07.tar.gz recursive
	dependencies

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=27848

	* report missing dependency in Compress::LZO or LZOp or some such.
	
 MFX/Compress-LZO-1.08.tar.gz                 : make NO
 PMQS/IO-Compress-Lzop-2.005.tar.gz           : make_test NO

	No bug, just liblzo missing on my system.

	* Todo: re-evaluate if Mail::Send now works for cpantesters.

2007-06-30  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Todo: check out what exactly rsync 3.0 will bring us with the batch
	mode. It is a way to run many rsync updates simultaneously but not with
	a database for each pair rather with the same batch jobs for all slaves
	or so. I do not think this is what I want.

	* configure_requires needs dummy test distro that depends on some other
	dummy test distro. we must test the behaviour if that other distro is
	available and if it is not available.

	Pick a dummy distro as a blueprint. Make-Expect is a bit too large.
	Build is not suited because I do not speak M:B well. I take the simple
	Make thing and I call the new one Make-ConfReq.

	* Devel::EvalContext? We should run it through a binary search together
	with Data::Alias 1.06. Data::Alias does not like 23023. 26015? No.
	28005? Ignition found. The binsearch reaches 28927/8 which simply cannot
	be it. We must look why EvalContext failed. YAML 0.65 is a prereq and it
	did not compile at that time. In 28928 we have no YAML and so no install
	happens. But why do we have a YAML with 28927? Maybe some test has been
	skipped or some such, it does not really matter. 26015 also fails
	because of YAML. 27422 has YAML and tests OK. For further proceedings we
	must filter out perls that cannot have a YAML 0.65 for whatever reason.
	We should probably install YAML with notest. Doing so now.

	Just for the record, the failing test is this one:

t/marshall...........*** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (fasttop): 0x08607110 ***
dubious
        Test returned status 0 (wstat 6, 0x6)
DIED. FAILED tests 1-10
        Failed 10/10 tests, 0.00% okay

	This does not lead to a convergence either because now I find out that
	the now fixed Data-Alias 1.06 does not work with some earlier
	bleadperls. This means I start another binsearch to find this threshold
	and after that I can limit the other binsearch to the interval that we
	have a working Data::Alias 1.06 for. The threshold is 31252. This is the
	very first bleadperl that works with Data::Alias 1.06

	And within this short interval 31252-31505 Devel::EvalContext seems to
	not run. Now what would be interesting to know: how long did D:E work
	with Data::Alias 1.05?

	The first Devel::EvalContext that worked for me was with 27002

	* Raphael asked me to pay special attention to 31505. New fails
	according to CPAN::Reporter:

	FAIL re-engine-Plan9-0.09                    first time ever
	FAIL re-engine-PCRE-0.10                     first time ever
	FAIL Devel-EvalContext-0.08                  has always failed except for maintperl[1]
	NA Image-Magick-Thumbnail-PDF-1.10           just a new distro

	[1] so why was it reported then? According to CPAN::Reporter it was
	always a NA and is now a FAIL. Reason for NA was that Data::Alias was
	broken and this one got a new release yesterday. So how would
	Devel::EvalContext fare now with the new Data::Alias? Not good.
	
	new fails since 31493:

	AVAR/re-engine-PCRE-0.10.tar.gz                    first time ever
	AVAR/re-engine-Plan9-0.09.tar.gz                   first time ever
	JESSE/Jifty-DBI-0.41.tar.gz                        new failure mode[2]
	LEOCHARRE/Image-Magick-Thumbnail-PDF-1.10.tar.gz   new distro
	MSERGEANT/XML-Filter-XInclude-1.0.tar.gz           has always been flaky
	RJBS/Email-Valid-0.179.tar.gz                      for unknown reason not in 31493 at all
	TELS/graph/Graph-Easy-0.55.tar.gz                  has always been flaky
	TELS/graph/Graph-Easy-As_svg-0.21.tar.gz           has always been flaky

	[2]in 31493 again OK on a new test and in 505 again NOT OK on a new
	test; reading diffs in autobundle seems DBIx::DBSchema has a new release
	0.33 which breaks a test. Downgrading to IVAN/DBIx-DBSchema-0.32.tar.gz
	fixes the tests. http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=27827
	
	gone since 31493:

	BRICAS/Catalyst-Plugin-ConfigLoader-0.14.tar.gz
	CHROMATIC/Test-MockObject-1.07.tar.gz
	CHROMATIC/Text-WikiFormat-0.78.tar.gz
	GOMOR/Net-Write-1.00.tar.gz
	IAMCAL/Flickr-API-0.08.tar.gz
	IAMCAL/XML-Parser-Lite-Tree-0.03.tar.gz
	LEOCHARRE/Image-Magick-Thumbnail-PDF-1.09.tar.gz
	MRAMBERG/Catalyst-Devel-1.02.tar.gz
	NUFFIN/Data-Visitor-0.07.tar.gz
	OVID/Class-Trait-0.22.tar.gz
	POLETTIX/WWW-Slides-0.0.9.tar.gz
	REDTREE/PDF-API2-Simple-1.1.2.tar.gz
	STAS/libapreq-1.33.tar.gz
	TSCH/Glib-1.144.tar.gz
	XMATH/Data-Alias-1.05.tar.gz

	That's all fair and explicable and not interesting to report.
	
2007-06-28  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* 31492 suddenly has several first time failures:

	CHROMATIC/Test-MockObject-1.07.tar.gz           134:1 long errmsg
	CHROMATIC/Text-WikiFormat-0.78.tar.gz           256:1 long errmsg
	OVID/Class-Trait-0.22.tar.gz                    132:1 long errmsg
	NUFFIN/Data-Visitor-0.07.tar.gz                  64:1 dep on MockObject
	POLETTIX/WWW-Slides-0.0.9.tar.gz                 81:1 dep on MockObject
	BRICAS/Catalyst-Plugin-ConfigLoader-0.14.tar.gz 132:1 dep on Data::Visitor

	Class::Trait was the first that jumped into my eyes so it is now running
	a binary search. Waiting for 31487:31492. Waiting for 87:89. No, from
	reading 88 is is clear that it is an issue with 89 and I can inform
	Brandon and go to bed.

	* FOX/Bot-CPAN WTF:

/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pcYW9GU/perl-5.8.0@31475/bin/perl Makefile.PL --config= --installdeps=Class::Phrasebook,0.88,Mail::Internet,1.58,XML::RSS::Parser,0.21,Config::Auto,0.03,Module::CPANTS,0.20030725
*** Installing dependencies...
[ERROR] Could not find the 'cpanp-run-perl' in your path--this may be a problem.
Please locate this program and set your 'perlwrapper' config entry to its path.

	And then there is the 1.7 vs 1.11 issue too. Magically search.cpan.org
	displays 1.11 but CPAN.pm chooses 1.7.

	And it depends on Mail::Internet. Why?

	* Convert-PEM has a PASS:FAIL ratio of 322:25

t/02-encode.......# Failed test 7 in t/02-encode.t at line 33
#  t/02-encode.t line 33 is: ok($pem->errstr =~ /^Decryption failed/);
FAILED test 7
^IFailed 1/12 tests, 91.67% okay
t/03-ede3.........ok
Failed Test   Stat Wstat Total Fail  List of Failed
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
t/02-encode.t               12    1  7
Failed 1/4 test scripts. 1/34 subtests failed.

	I have reported this already 14 days ago.

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=27574

2007-06-27  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Just answered Julian Mehnle on module-build and probably even fixed
	his bug. Not feeling lucky. But the likelihood that this will bomb is
	quite low because it only changes behaviour for a leading v.

2007-06-26  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Forgot to mention the testers Wiki: http://cpantest.grango.org/

	Thanks, Barbie.

	* ZOOLEIKA/RDF-Simple-0.3.tar.gz mixed test results, more FAIL than
	PASS, all visible on http://cpantesters.perl.org/show/RDF-Simple.html.

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=27757

	But I must really take a break from bugreporting, a burnt out stomach.

2007-06-25  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* MSCHILLI/CPAN-Unwind-0.04.tar.gz fails because
	Module::Depends::Intrusive is not available. Module::Depends started to
	break with 2007-06-22T06:37 This one looks like a real dependency is
	broken, maybe File::chdir?

  diff -u /home/sand/.cpan/Bundle/Snapshot_2007_06_25_0[01].pm

-File::chdir 0.07
+File::chdir 0.08

  RCLAMP/Module-Depends-0.12.tar.gz
  /usr/bin/make -- OK
Running make test
CPAN: CPAN::Reporter loaded ok (v0.44)
PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pVSGU0p/perl-5.8.0@31443/bin/perl "-MExtUtils::Command::MM" "-e" "test_harness(0, 'blib/lib', 'blib/arch')" t/*.t
t/depends....Failed to change directory to '/home/sand/.cpan/build/Module-Depends-0.12-hZuYHR/t/no-such-dir' at /home/sand/.cpan/build/Module-Depends-0.12-hZuYHR/blib/lib/Module/Depends.pm line 66
# Looks like you planned 17 tests but only ran 7.
# Looks like your test died just after 7.
dubious
        Test returned status 255 (wstat 65280, 0xff00)
DIED. FAILED tests 8-17
        Failed 10/17 tests, 41.18% okay
Failed Test Stat Wstat Total Fail  List of Failed
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
t/depends.t  255 65280    17   20  8-17
Failed 1/1 test scripts. 10/17 subtests failed.
Files=1, Tests=17,  2 wallclock secs ( 0.57 cusr +  0.04 csys =  0.61 CPU)

	Downgrading to DAGOLDEN/File-chdir-0.07.tar.gz fixes the tests:

  RCLAMP/Module-Depends-0.12.tar.gz
  /usr/bin/make -- OK
Running make test
PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pVSGU0p/perl-5.8.0@31443/bin/perl "-MExtUtils::Command::MM" "-e" "test_harness(0, 'blib/lib', 'blib/arch')" t/*.t
t/depends....Subroutine main::build_requires redefined at /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pVSGU0p/perl-5.8.0@31443/lib/5.9.5/Exporter.pm line 66.
 at Makefile.PL line 3
Subroutine main::include_deps redefined at /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pVSGU0p/perl-5.8.0@31443/lib/5.9.5/Exporter.pm line 66.
 at Makefile.PL line 3
Subroutine main::requires redefined at /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pVSGU0p/perl-5.8.0@31443/lib/5.9.5/Exporter.pm line 66.
 at Makefile.PL line 3
ok
All tests successful.
Files=1, Tests=17,  3 wallclock secs ( 0.84 cusr +  0.06 csys =  0.90 CPU)

	I have not checked which behaviour I find more appropriate just wanted
	to let you know.

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=27721

	* MLEHMANN/AnyEvent-2.52.tar.gz Started dying on 2007-06-21T21:46 with
	'X connection to localhost:10.0 broken (explicit kill or server
	shutdown).' But not always.

	* JRED/Event-ExecFlow-0.63.tar.gz?

	Depends on AnyEvent.

	* DBRIAN/XML-SimpleObject-0.53.tar.gz? Does not declare prereq XML::Parser

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=27109 (six weeks ago)

2007-06-23  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* CHROMATIC/Crypt-CipherSaber-1.00.tar.gz had a dropout at 31444 need to
	look closer

	* Off topic Todo: Devel::Symdump fails recur test with 5.00504.

	But succeeds in the debugger.

	* DMAKI/File-Extract-0.06.tar.gz is dependent on Spreadsheet::Read and
	therefore has mixed results.

	* Refactor the distroprefs with one file for all the "standard" MI
	distros. DONE but as of 31446 not yet tested.

2007-06-22  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Glib: I once put a patch for Glib into /tmp/ and then forgot and then
	lost the patch. Today I reconstructed what might have been in there so
	that the distroprefs get useable again. Similarly I had to put the Gtk2
	patch from patches/ to /tmp/.

2007-06-20  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* ZOOLEIKA/SVG-Plot-0.06.tar.gz

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=27652

	* MRAMBERG/Catalyst-Plugin-Unicode-0.3.tar.gz is among the new fails but
	I don't see a fail report on cpantesters. Ah, he did not include the
	inc/ directory so need Module::Install installed. Does not build, cannot
	write a Reporter mail. Already reported by DANIELTWC

	https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=27633

	* ARANDAL/parrot-0.4.13.tar.gz does not even finish make:-(

2007-06-19  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* DBI 1.57 needs a binary search and I cannot compile perls between
	20373 and 20575. They all fail with

cc -L/usr/local/lib -o miniperl \
            miniperlmain.o opmini.o libperl.a -lnsl -ldl -lm -lcrypt -lutil -lc 
libperl.a(mg.o): In function `Perl_magic_set':
/home/src/perl/repoperls/perl-p-5.8.0@20573/mg.c:2215: undefined reference to `setruid'
/home/src/perl/repoperls/perl-p-5.8.0@20573/mg.c:2269: undefined reference to `setrgid'
/home/src/perl/repoperls/perl-p-5.8.0@20573/mg.c:2364: undefined reference to `setproctitle'
libperl.a(pp_sys.o): In function `Perl_pp_fteread':
/home/src/perl/repoperls/perl-p-5.8.0@20573/pp_sys.c:2949: undefined reference to `eaccess'
libperl.a(pp_sys.o): In function `Perl_pp_ftewrite':
/home/src/perl/repoperls/perl-p-5.8.0@20573/pp_sys.c:2976: undefined reference to `eaccess'
libperl.a(pp_sys.o): In function `Perl_pp_fteexec':
/home/src/perl/repoperls/perl-p-5.8.0@20573/pp_sys.c:3003: undefined reference to `eaccess'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

	So we could try to replace mg.c and pp_sys.c with later versions? We
	could look into our history if we ever had such an encounter -- No.

	So we need to document that because we will have to go into this region
	again.

	Where were mg.c changes?

	./bin/blame-helper.pl --diffdir APC/5.9.0/diffs --lower 20400 --upper 24009 mg.c

	As expected, I cannot compile 20829 either. As all this is highly
	unlikely to help we should rather look into config.sh:

	Maybe I should try to add to --config '-Ud_eaccess -Ud_setruid
	-Ud_setrgid -Ud_setproctitle'? I think I did that before. Because we
	have the directories already I edit the config.sh to the same effect and
	run make again. I do this in 20474. Yes this is the way to go.

	Lets write this in perl:

	perl -pi~ -e 's/define/undef/ if /^d_(eaccess|setruid|setrgid|setproctitle)=/' config.sh

----Program----
eval q{use DBI 1.57};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../pCkomOb/perl-5.8.0@20556/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../pdIogQu/perl-5.8.0@20559/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----

	Change 20559 by rgs@rgs-home on 2003/08/07 19:59:18

	Subject: Fwd: Re: [PATCH] flags set incorrectly on abandoned lexicals
	From: Dave Mitchell <davem@fdgroup.com>
	Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 15:53:35 +0100
	Message-ID: <20030807145335.GF26683@fdgroup.com>

t/86gofer_fail............ok 21/0Unexpected failure: DBD::Gofer::db do failed: A
ssertion !((sv)->sv_flags & 0x00000100) failed: file "pad.c", line 1411 at /home
/sand/.cpan/build/DBI-1.57-QQq6PO/blib/lib/DBI/Gofer/Execute.pm line 624. at t/8
6gofer_fail.t line 129.
# Looks like your test died just after 22.
t/86gofer_fail............dubious
        Test returned status 255 (wstat 65280, 0xff00)
        after all the subtests completed successfully

	

2007-06-18  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* SVG-Metadata-0.28 might be a pseudo hash issue.

	* TANIGUCHI/Unicode-RecursiveDowngrade-0.03.tar.gz is the next candidate.
	And JUERD/encoding-split-0.01.tar.gz?

----Program----
eval q{use Unicode::RecursiveDowngrade 0.03};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../pt5LKrb/perl-5.8.0@24009/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../pAnzsYU/perl-5.8.0@24010/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----

----Program----
# does not define a VERSION, so we must test without
eval q{use encoding::source 'latin1'};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../pfM0pqq/perl-5.8.0@28358/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../pDCuNRp/perl-5.8.0@28359/bin/perl----
binmode() on unopened filehandle STDIN at /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pDCuNRp/perl-5.8.0@28359/lib/5.9.4/i686-linux-64int/encoding.pm line 165.
binmode() on unopened filehandle STDOUT at /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pDCuNRp/perl-5.8.0@28359/lib/5.9.4/i686-linux-64int/encoding.pm line 165.
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----

2007-06-17  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* between 200706111347 and 200706111947 GMT something removed
	Lingua::Stem::It from packages. 

moddump.200706111347GMT.bz2:INSERT INTO `packages` VALUES ('Lingua::Stem::It','0.02','A/AC/ACALPINI/Lingua-Stem-It-0.02.tar.gz','Lingua-Stem-It-0.02/It.pm','1181290186','1181297408','','index');
moddump.200706111347GMT.bz2:INSERT INTO `perms` VALUES (27133,'Lingua::Stem::It','ACALPINI');
moddump.200706111347GMT.bz2:INSERT INTO `primeur` VALUES ('Lingua::Stem::It','ACALPINI');


moddump.200706111947GMT.bz2:INSERT INTO `perms` VALUES (27133,'Lingua::Stem::It','ACALPINI');
moddump.200706111947GMT.bz2:INSERT INTO `primeur` VALUES ('Lingua::Stem::It','ACALPINI');

	I find no indication as to why this might have happened. So I schedule
	it for reindexing and wait if Lingua::Stem starts to PASS again.

	Further investigations reveal that there *was* a
	A/AC/ACALPINI/Lingua-Stem-it-0.02.tar.gz (note lowercase) which also had
	contained Lingua::Stem::It and when it was removed from cpan, the
	indexer threw away the L:S:I record. Nobody reindexed the
	Lingua-Stem-it-0.02.tar.gz then until I did.

	And then it turned out that this new release broke L:S testsuite:-(

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=27616

	* Class-DBI is yet to be analysed.

	The RT queue is full of spam. The last release was in November.
	cpantesters has a high number of PASSes.

	Stepping through the debugger reveals:

not ok 1 - DBD::SQLite::st fetchrow_array warning: not an error(0) at dbdimp.c line 504 [for Statement "PRAGMA table_info(Movies)"] at /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/ph7Gryz/perl-5.8.0@31399/lib/site_perl/5.9.5/DBIx/ContextualFetch.pm line 88.

	Has maybe DBD::SQLite broken Class::DBI? Google for 'PRAGMA table_info()'?

	Aha: http://lists.digitalcraftsmen.net/pipermail/classdbi/2007-March/001583.html

	Answer: Check your version of DBD::SQLite. 1.13 and CDBI don't get
	along. Downgrade to 1.12.

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=27608
	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=27609

2007-06-16  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* DANIEL/Crypt-OpenSSL-X509-0.5.tar.gz

	Can't locate inc/Module/Install.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pVSGU0p/perl-5.8.0@31443/lib/5.9.5/i686-linux-64int /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pVSGU0p/perl-5.8.0@31443/lib/5.9.5 /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pVSGU0p/perl-5.8.0@31443/lib/site_perl/5.9.5/i686-linux-64int /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pVSGU0p/perl-5.8.0@31443/lib/site_perl/5.9.5 .) at Makefile.PL line 3.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at Makefile.PL line 3.
Warning: No success on command[/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pVSGU0p/perl-5.8.0@31443/bin/perl Makefile.PL]
  DANIEL/Crypt-OpenSSL-X509-0.5.tar.gz
  /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pVSGU0p/perl-5.8.0@31443/bin/perl Makefile.PL -- NOT OK

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=27765

	* Idea: rewrite the recent command to read and parse
	http://search.cpan.org/uploads.rdf and return and render a pure ascii
	list. Write a smoke command which takes a numeric argument and tests the
	first N items of that list. smoke without arguments smokes the whole
	list.

	Or could we reuse something from a smoke module?

	Test::Smoke                      for perl core tests

	SmokeRunner::Multi               for your own code on your own disk

	Task::Smoke                      Pugs smoking

	CPAN::YACSmoke::Plugin::WebList  Uses http://cpan.uwinnipeg.ca/recent


	Winnipeg then mentions http://cpan.uwinnipeg.ca/htdocs/cpan.xml but this
	is several hours behind in time and does not seem to have developer
	releases. And it sorts alphabetically per day without a trace of a
	timestamp.

	But uploads.rdf does not provide the extension ".tar.gz" or whatever
	should be there. This can be worked around though. Winnipeg has them.

	We need RECENT files on CPAN.

2007-06-14  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Tie-EncryptedHash-1.21

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=27585

	* Todo: configure_requires is now official in the META docs and needs
	doing. I'm now sure I want a distropref for personal dependencies. I do
	not want to intermix them with the three _require types, so I'll
	probably call it but_first. The implementation will then be very, very
	close to configure_requires. The point is that this stuff shall kick in
	very early, before we run Makefile.PL.

	Update 2007-06-15 akoenig maybe depends is a better keyword than
	but_first. "But first" comes from hiveminder. We definitely need depends
	WITH sub keywords
	{configure_,build_,}requires modelled after the META spec so that we get
	the full power that is to be implemented anyway.

	* DBIx-Timeout again. I once gave it a dsn but this may have been wrong
	as there is no dependency on dbd::mysql and so we get random results
	depending on DBI::mysql being available or not.

	* AxKit 1.6.2 intermittant failures. In the distropref I wrote once that
	I won't care further but intermittant success/failure keeps the thing
	getting in the way. RT for axkit is full of spam and the last resolved
	bug was two years ago. The mailing list is dead since September 2006. I
	take it out of megainstall.txt for now.

2007-06-13  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* ROODE/Time-Format-1.02.tar.gz intermittant failures.

	Already in RT (22047) for many months. I should probably patch it.

	I've voiced myself in the ticket for now.

	* RUZ/DBIx-SearchBuilder-1.48 intermittant failures.

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=27557

	* DBIx-Class with 31369

t/cdbi-t/06-hasa.t                1   256    24    1  17
t/cdbi-t/09-has_many.t            1   256    31    1  31
t/cdbi-t/12-filter.t            255 65280    50   67  1-2 15-16 18 20-50
t/cdbi-t/18-has_a.t               2   512    41    2  26-27
t/cdbi-t/19-set_sql.t           255 65280    17   11  12-17
t/cdbi-t/22-self_referential.t  255 65280     2    4  1-2

	But sometimes all tests pass because these tests are skipped with the
	reason given "Class::Trigger and DBIx::ContextualFetch"

	Are these modules specified as prereqs? No. Bug report filed as

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=27555

2007-06-09  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* new fails vs gone fails @31356 disappointing:

	[ADEO/Data-Random-0.05.tar.gz, BYRNE/SOAP-Lite-0.69.tar.gz,
	DBRIAN/XML-SimpleObject-0.53.tar.gz, DMAKI/Class-DBI-Loader-0.32.tar.gz,
	IAMCAL/Flickr-API-0.08.tar.gz, IAMCAL/XML-Parser-Lite-Tree-0.03.tar.gz,
	LBROCARD/Test-WWW-Mechanize-Catalyst-0.37.tar.gz,
	MIYAGAWA/CGI-Untaint-email-0.03.tar.gz,
	MIYAGAWA/Class-DBI-SQLite-0.11.tar.gz, MKUTTER/SOAP-WSDL-1.23.tar.gz,
	MTHURN/Tk-Wizard-2.007.tar.gz, PETDANCE/Test-WWW-Mechanize-1.14.tar.gz,
	PETDANCE/WWW-Mechanize-1.30.tar.gz,
	SIMON/Class-DBI-Loader-Relationship-1.2.tar.gz,
	TEEJAY/Maypole-2.111.tar.gz, TMTM/CGI-Untaint-date-1.00.tar.gz,
	TMTM/Class-DBI-Plugin-RetrieveAll-1.04.tar.gz, TSCH/Glib-1.144.tar.gz,
	VKON/Tcl-0.95.tar.gz, YARON/WWW-Monitor-0.24.tar.gz]

	[CORION/Test-Without-Module-0.09.tar.gz,
	MRAMBERG/Catalyst-View-TT-0.25.tar.gz,
	MSISK/HTML-TableExtract-2.10.tar.gz,
	PETDANCE/Template-Timer-0.04.tar.gz, STAS/libapreq-1.33.tar.gz,
	VKON/Tcl-0.91.tar.gz]

	Well, Mech was failing because wikipedia was down;), so it's not
	reproducable and OK.

2007-06-08  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=27491 Log-Report-0.05
	because it hangs during the test I cannot put it into megainstall

2007-06-07  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* SWF::Builder flaky test. Seemingly random results. This RT ticket is
	now 4 weeks old. Need to patch the distro.

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=26971

	distroprefs/YSAS.SWF-Builder.yml DONE

	* POE 0.9989 fails a tk test under very rare unknown circumstances.

	Only three time (2007-06-06T19:55 (31344), 2007-05-29T05:48 (31296),
	2007-05-26T14:17 (31281)) in 26*6+1 times. The failure is not
	reproducable. The logfiles show all three times exactly the same:

t/30_loops/50_tk/wheel_run...................
#   Failed test 'coderef/shutdown close'
#   at t/30_loops/00_base/wheel_run.pm line 332.
#          got: 'close'
#     expected: 'stdout'
# Looks like you planned 99 tests but only ran 97.
# Looks like you failed 1 test of 97 run.
dubious
^ITest returned status 1 (wstat 256, 0x100)
DIED. FAILED tests 53, 98-99
^IFailed 3/99 tests, 96.97% okay

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=27478

	* MSISK/HTML-TableExtract

	https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=20709

	The output looks very similar to HTML::CalendarMonth. It's about the
	difference between <foo attr=0> and <foo attr="0">.

	I see very randomly looking test results. There must be a correlation to
	some already installed module.

$ grep -r 'eval.*use ' lib/
lib/HTML/TableExtract.pm:    eval "use HTML::TreeBuilder";
lib/HTML/TableExtract.pm:    eval "use HTML::ElementTable 1.17";

	The TreeBuilder is it.

	But this does not answer the HTML::CalendarMonth problem.

	* why does an upgrade install Chart 2.4.1? Because 2.4.1 < 2.3? How does
	this happen?

	Chart::Mountain               undef  2.004001  CHARTGRP/Chart-2.4.1.tar.gz

2007-06-05  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Todo: Test if we can work with YAML::Tiny.
	http://svn.ali.as/cpan/concept/cpan-yaml-tiny/

	No, it fails on many distroprefs files and on FTPstats.yml. This was
	with 0.12.

	* WWW::Live365 has very mixed/random test results. Most recent breakage
	was WWW::Mechanize but this seems to be fixed now, so probably
	everything OK.

2007-06-04  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Watch HTML-TreeBuilder-XPath-0.08

	It failed suddenly in current build and has quite a good history of
	green builds, although not perfect.

	* Binary searches in some regions below 23023 are getting uglier and
	uglier. I now see test failures in CPAN.pm's 10version.t (Out of
	memory!) so CPAN.pm does not get installed, we have to use a very old
	CPAN.pm which cannot install current CPAN::Reporter and cannot run
	distroprefs. So it asks all the questions that we had so happily
	eliminated.

	Some time ago I had always used the very current CPAN.pm from the repo
	for running the binary searches. Maybe I should switch back to that?

	Notest is your friend! First we check if we are below patchlevel 23023.
	Then we check if we are below 1.8802. If so, we install 1.8802 so that
	we get at "notest". Then we install current version with the help of
	notest. Fini. Now it flies again.

	* SADAHIRO/ShiftJIS-X0213-MapUTF-0.30.tar.gz might also be a candidate,
	or with the same history pattern:
	SADAHIRO/ShiftJIS-CP932-MapUTF-1.01.tar.gz

	Let's try with

	ShiftJIS::X0213::MapUTF

	This became a BBC article on 2007-06-05

	* Time-HiRes-Value-0.04 has an unreproducable test failure.

make[3]: Entering directory `/home/sand/.cpan/build/Time-HiRes-Value-0.04-GZ0nGl'
PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/p4tyIz4/perl-5.8.0@31330/bin/perl "-MExtUtils::Command::MM" "-e" "test_harness(0, 'blib/lib', 'blib/arch')" t/*.t
t/01test......ok
t/02timing....
#   Failed test at t/02timing.t line 19.
#          got: ''
#     expected: '1'
# Looks like you failed 1 test of 2.
dubious
^ITest returned status 1 (wstat 256, 0x100)
DIED. FAILED test 2
^IFailed 1/2 tests, 50.00% okay
Failed Test  Stat Wstat Total Fail  List of Failed
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
t/02timing.t    1   256     2    1  2
Failed 1/2 test scripts. 1/52 subtests failed.

	* LBROCARD/Devel-ebug-0.48.tar.gz has intermittent failures, should be
	reported.

	* SAVA/Encode-IMAPUTF7-1.00.tar.gz candidate for binary search? 23023
	fails also. 20002 doesn't fail. After many hours we reach the interval
	between 22774 and 22872 and we need to build new perls again.

	Before we reach the endpoint I already see that the test output has
	already changed somewhere, so maybe we need more binary searches. The
	failure @22842 looks so simple:

t/0-test....Modification of a read-only value attempted at /home/sand/.cpan/build/Encode-IMAPUTF7-1.00/blib/lib/Encode/IMAPUTF7.pm line 39.
# Looks like your test died before it could output anything.
t/0-test....dubious                                                          
        Test returned status 255 (wstat 65280, 0xff00)

----Program----
eval q{use Encode::IMAPUTF7 1.00};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../p1d1ohA/perl-5.8.0@22841/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../p4U7uLf/perl-5.8.0@22842/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----

	* Net-Write has a negative dependency on Pod::Coverage on bleadperl. The
	type we saw with File::Slurp and Graph::Easy and Tk::Wizard.

2007-06-02  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* New idea how to quickly locate more candidates for binary searches:

% HEAD http://cpantesters.perl.org/testers.db
200 OK
Connection: close
Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:25:43 GMT
Accept-Ranges: bytes
ETag: "f4022-59f3000-35b66a40"
Server: Apache/2.0.55 (Unix)
Content-Length: 94318592
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Last-Modified: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 14:33:05 GMT
Client-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:25:44 GMT
Client-Peer: 216.52.237.215:80
Client-Response-Num: 1

	and then with SQLite pick everything that has 5.8.8 OK and 5.9.*
	something failing.

2007-06-01  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* metadata::byinode is all rrrrrrred.

	* Archive-Any broken since many months, trivial patch would be possible.
	Nooo! Let's limit the tests to be run instead!

	* Off topic: [perl #43088] needs a binary search. DONE

	* SADAHIRO/String-Multibyte-1.05.tar.gz needs a binary search.
----Program----
eval q{use String::Multibyte 1.05};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../pziyPD8/perl-5.8.0@29317/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../pZitec4/perl-5.8.0@29318/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----
Need a perl between 29317 and 29318

	BBC article written:

	http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl5.porters/browse_thread/thread/86d76ccbfdd0bc82/1fe1c0328a992fd3#1fe1c0328a992fd3

2007-05-31  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* AMICHAUER/Unicode-Lite-0.12.tar.gz works with maint not with blead.

	It's a module from 2002-08-29, what can we expect? Still we must find
	the reason why it started failing. The patch number is 24660. I found it
	commented in 'This Week on perl5-porters (3-9 October 2005)':

	http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl5.summary/2005/10/msg137.html

	There has not been a BBC article about 24660 yet... Now there is.

	And Nicholas has posted a fix too.

	http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl5.porters/browse_thread/thread/ebf004f17dc0b844/c30308d4bac1ddd2#c30308d4bac1ddd2

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=27378

	* Voting:C:RP either broke between 2007-04-28T18:42 and
	2007-04-29T07:05. The maint 5.8 result seems to proof that it was not a
	bleedperl change:

599	PJF/Voting-Condorcet-RankedPairs-1.01 294	2007-04-29T07:05 perl      31105 NOT OK
258	PJF/Voting-Condorcet-RankedPairs-1.01 295 2007-04-28T18:42 perl 	   31104 OK
588	PJF/Voting-Condorcet-RankedPairs-1.01 296	2007-04-27T23:29 perl 	   31103 OK
562	PJF/Voting-Condorcet-RankedPairs-1.01 297	2007-04-27T17:10 perl 	   31102 OK
289	PJF/Voting-Condorcet-RankedPairs-1.01 293	2007-04-29T16:01 maint-5.8 31100 NOT OK
662	PJF/Voting-Condorcet-RankedPairs-1.01 298	2007-04-27T04:58 perl 	   31093 OK

	It's a simple dependency on Graph and that bug is already reported, so
	nothing to do.

2007-05-29  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Test::FormValidator is a candidate for BBC? 23023 failed the same way
	as current. 20002 also. So no, it is not a candidate, it is simply
	broken by some dependency and RT shows it and cpantesters has plenty of
	indicators. This is a case where we need a rule when a module is to be
	removed from megainstall.

	* why is DBD::SQLite failing? Since 2007-05-27T11:40, 2007-05-26T14:17
	was still OK?

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root     288 May 27 00:02 libsqlite3-0.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root     379 May 27 00:02 libsqlite3-dev.list

	So we must find out which parameter DBD::SQLite needs to find the right
	libsqlite.

libsqlite3-0/testing uptodate 3.3.14-1
libsqlite3-dev/testing uptodate 3.3.14-1

	The Changes file says it is up to date with 3.3.5!

	https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=27324

2007-05-28  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Todo: equip all installed perls with current CPAN and CPAN::Reporter DONE

	* B::Generate has already got a BBC article.

	http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl5.porters/browse_thread/thread/4b2eff569d6bf8f6/72703631005603e3?lnk=gst&q=B%3A%3AGenerate&rnum=4#72703631005603e3

	Now Scott Walters claims to have a working replacement.
	SWALTERS/B-Generate-1.06_1.tar.gz

	But it doesn't work on bleadperl either.

	The BBC article about ABERGMAN's 1.06 pointed to bleadperl@22315.

	New binary search needs a little help to get a proper result. Old CPAN
	and CPAN::Reporter get in the way. Upgrade. Then continue with Scott's
	and Schwern's version, verify that 22315 really was the breaker. Speed
	things up.

2007-05-25  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* CLEISHMAN/Cache-2.04.tar.gz has been tested 293 times and has 7
	randomly distributed fails.

	https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=27280

	* YARON/WWW-Monitor-0.24.tar.gz broken:

20070519T0232 perl        31238 1100 OK    
20070519T1331 perl        31239  750 OK    
20070520T0357 perl        31240  641 OK    
20070520T1139 maint-5.8   31223   62 NOT OK
20070520T1732 perl        31244  554 NOT OK
20070521T0310 perl        31246  490 NOT OK

	Dependency on WWW-Mechanize which is not only broken ATM but all
	releases have been removed from CPAN due a glitch by Andy.
	PETDANCE/WWW-Mechanize-1.29_01.tar.gz fixes the gap for the moment.

	* Paul Johnson has already noticed that the test t/ainc_sub.t fails. I
	just need to give the failure of PJCJ/Devel-Cover-0.61.tar.gz a number
	between

20070306T1150 perl        30482    0 OK
20070306T1747 perl        30488    0 NOT OK

----Program----
eval q{use Devel::Cover 0.61};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

#my $output_file = "$^X.devel-cover-test.out";
#print -s $output_file < 1000000 ? "ok" : "not ok";
#print "\n";

----Output of .../po3mlZz/perl-5.8.0@30487/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../pmmbb0x/perl-5.8.0@30488/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----

2007-05-23  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Data-Alias started to fail two smokes ago, binary search is running.

	But why do I now see it fail on 30019 too?

	Ahh, because it needs some minimum version too?

Alias.xs:1670: error: 'yy_parser' has no member named 'lex_state'

	I suppose XMATH knows about the need for a new release, 1.05 was
	released on May 13, so I should not waste everybody's time. But it is
	funny that he has already been featured in a BBC article with his
	version 1.03. 31252 is "move PL_tokenbuf into the PL_parser struct"

----Program----
eval {require Data::Alias};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../pjXKm5E/perl-5.8.0@31251/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../pPhwDas/perl-5.8.0@31252/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----

2007-05-21  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* JPEACOCK/SVN-Notify-Config-0.0907.tar.gz:

20070326T0114 perl        30754    0 OK
20070326T0933 perl        30756    0 OK
20070326T1512 perl        30759    0 OK
20070326T2046 perl        30763    0 OK
20070327T0157 perl        30769    0 OK
20070327T0954 perl        30771    0 NOT OK
20070327T1451 perl        30773    0 NOT OK
20070327T2003 perl        30774    0 NOT OK
20070328T1247 perl        30775    0 NOT OK
20070329T0833 maint-5.8   30765    0 NOT OK

	Must be a module or a debian thing, not a bleadperl change. On Mar 27th
	I seem to have upgraded the kernel. But the large upgrade was on 28th.

	The snapshot diff tells me

-SVN::Notify 2.64
+SVN::Notify 2.65
 
 SVN::Notify::Alternative 1.0
 
-SVN::Notify::Config 0.0907
-
-SVN::Notify::HTML 2.64
+SVN::Notify::HTML 2.65
 
-SVN::Notify::HTML::ColorDiff 2.64
+SVN::Notify::HTML::ColorDiff 2.65

-Time::Duration 1.04
-
-Time::Duration::Parse 0.02


So this is the failure mode with bleadperl@31244 ATM:

cpan[2]> test  SVN::Notify::Config 
Running test for module 'SVN::Notify::Config'
CPAN: CPAN::Kwalify loaded ok (v5.401418)
CPAN: Kwalify loaded ok (v1.14)
Running make for J/JP/JPEACOCK/SVN-Notify-Config-0.0907.tar.gz
  Has already been unwrapped into directory /home/sand/.cpan/build/SVN-Notify-Config-0.0907-Xgs9t8
  Has already been made
Running make test
/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/peSkxq2/perl-5.8.0@31244/bin/perl Build --makefile_env_macros 1 test
t/001_basic.....ok                                                           
t/002_config....ok 2/0                                                       
#   Failed test 'Failed to produce expected results at rev: 3'
#   at t/coretests.pm line 116.
t/002_config....NOK 6/0                                                      
#   Failed test 'All object properties match at rev: 6'
#   at t/coretests.pm line 108.
#     Structures begin differing at:
#          $got->[0]{PATH} = Does not exist
#     $expected->[0]{PATH} = '/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin'

#   Failed test 'Failed to produce expected results at rev: 7'
#   at t/coretests.pm line 116.
# Looks like you failed 3 tests of 7.
t/002_config....dubious                                                      
        Test returned status 3 (wstat 768, 0x300)
DIED. FAILED tests 3, 6-7
        Failed 3/7 tests, 57.14% okay
t/003_config....NOK 9/0                                                      
#   Failed test 'All object properties match at rev: 9'
#   at t/coretests.pm line 108.
#     Structures begin differing at:
#          $got->[1] = Does not exist
#     $expected->[1] = SVN::Notify::Dummy=HASH(0x86d4dec)
t/003_config....NOK 12/0                                                     
#   Failed test 'All object properties match at rev: 12'
#   at t/coretests.pm line 108.
#     Structures begin differing at:
#          $got->[1] = Does not exist
#     $expected->[1] = SVN::Notify::Dummy=HASH(0x86d5864)
# Looks like you failed 2 tests of 12.
t/003_config....dubious                                                      
        Test returned status 2 (wstat 512, 0x200)
DIED. FAILED tests 9, 12
        Failed 2/12 tests, 83.33% okay
Failed Test    Stat Wstat Total Fail  List of Failed
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
t/002_config.t    3   768     7    3  3 6-7
t/003_config.t    2   512    12    2  9 12
Failed 2/3 test scripts. 5/20 subtests failed.
Files=3, Tests=20, 16 wallclock secs ( 9.87 cusr +  0.90 csys = 10.77 CPU)
Failed 2/3 test programs. 5/20 subtests failed.
make: *** [test] Error 2
  JPEACOCK/SVN-Notify-Config-0.0907.tar.gz
  /usr/bin/make test -- NOT OK
Failed during this command:
 JPEACOCK/SVN-Notify-Config-0.0907.tar.gz     : make_test NO


	After a downgrade of SVN::Notify to 2.64
	(DWHEELER/SVN-Notify-2.64.tar.gz) we see:

cpan[6]> test  SVN::Notify::Config              
Running test for module 'SVN::Notify::Config'
Running make for J/JP/JPEACOCK/SVN-Notify-Config-0.0907.tar.gz
  Has already been unwrapped into directory /home/sand/.cpan/build/SVN-Notify-Config-0.0907-Xgs9t8
  Has already been made
Running make test
/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/peSkxq2/perl-5.8.0@31244/bin/perl Build --makefile_env_macros 1 test
t/001_basic.....ok                                                           
t/002_config....ok                                                           
t/003_config....ok                                                           
All tests successful.
Files=3, Tests=20, 25 wallclock secs (10.36 cusr +  0.85 csys = 11.21 CPU)
  JPEACOCK/SVN-Notify-Config-0.0907.tar.gz
  /usr/bin/make test -- OK

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=26209

2007-05-19  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* During the test of PJCJ/Devel-Cover-0.61.tar.gz within
	megainstall.20070519T1331.out I got this 22MB extra output once again.
	Devel-Cover fails for a very long time already and I'm unsure if I
	have reported this or not.

2007-05-18  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Noise during megainstall while smoking 31235:

*** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x0835f4f8 ***
*** glibc detected *** free(): invalid next size (normal): 0x08376b30 ***
*** glibc detected *** realloc(): invalid next size: 0x08365dc8 ***
*** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x0835f608 ***
*** glibc detected *** free(): invalid next size (normal): 0x08376b30 ***
*** glibc detected *** realloc(): invalid next size: 0x08365dc8 ***
*** glibc detected *** free(): invalid next size (normal): 0x083759f0 ***

	and the test for FLORA/Net_SSLeay.pm-1.30.tar.gz or something after it
	hangs. This is the last thing in the logfile before I go kill some job:

All tests completed OK.
make[4]: Entering directory `/home/sand/.cpan/build/Net_SSLeay.pm-1.30-D3dijc/Net-SSLeay-Handle-0.50'
PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pjIcU5f/perl-5.8.0@31235/bin/perl "-I../blib/lib" "-I../blib/arch" test.pl
1..3
ok 1
    About to test the following external sites:

    www.cdw.com
    banking.wellsfargo.com
    secure.worldgaming.net
    www.ubs.com

    You have 5 seconds of time to hit Ctrl-C if you do not like this.
    So far there were no errors in tests.
    Following tests _will_ fail if you do not have network
    connectivity (or if the servers are down or have changed).

  testing https://www.cdw.com/ ...
  14 header and 451 document lines
  testing https://banking.wellsfargo.com/ ...
  6 header and 0 document lines
  testing https://secure.worldgaming.net/ ...
  8 header and 16 document lines
  testing https://www.ubs.com/ ...
  12 header and 340 document lines
  All sites were successful!
ok 2
creating 3 SSL sockets ...
  reading from www.cdw.com with socket 3
  14 header and 451 document lines
  reading from banking.wellsfargo.com with socket 4
  6 header and 0 document lines
  reading from secure.worldgaming.net with socket 5
  8 header and 16 document lines
  closing socket 3
  closing socket 4
  closing socket 5
  All sites were successful!
ok 3
make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/sand/.cpan/build/Net_SSLeay.pm-1.30-D3dijc/Net-SSLeay-Handle-0.50'
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/sand/.cpan/build/Net_SSLeay.pm-1.30-D3dijc'
makewrapper: make ok




	Now I'm gonna kill

sand      4313  0.0  0.5  12612  7868 pts/5    S+   16:39   0:00 /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pjIcU5f/perl-5.8.0@31235/bin/perl -Iblib/lib -Iblib/arch -I/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pjIcU5f/perl-5.8.0@31235/lib/5.9.5/i686-linux-64int -I/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pjIcU5f/perl-5.8.0@31235/lib/5.9.5 -I/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pjIcU5f/perl-5.8.0@31235/lib/site_perl/5.9.5/i686-linux-64int -I/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pjIcU5f/perl-5.8.0@31235/lib/site_perl/5.9.5 -I. examples/sslecho.pl 1212 examples/cert.pem examples/key.pem


	And after having done that I see this in the logfile:

sh: line 1:  4313 Terminated              /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pjIcU5f/perl-5.8.0@31235/bin/perl -Iblib/lib -Iblib/arch -I/home/src/per
l/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pjIcU5f/perl-5.8.0@31235/lib/5.9.5/i686-linux-64int -I/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pjIcU5f/perl-5.8.0@31235/li
b/5.9.5 -I/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pjIcU5f/perl-5.8.0@31235/lib/site_perl/5.9.5/i686-linux-64int -I/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls
/perl/pjIcU5f/perl-5.8.0@31235/lib/site_perl/5.9.5 -I. examples/sslecho.pl 1212 examples/cert.pem examples/key.pem >>sslecho.log 2>&1
ESC[1;34;47mTest result is 'pass'ESC[0mESC[1;34;47m: 'make test' no errorsESC[0mESC[1;34;47m.
ESC[0mESC[1;34;47mPreparing a test report for Net_SSLeay.pm-1.30
ESC[0mESC[1;31;47m
It seems that "PASS Net_SSLeay.pm-1.30 i686-linux-64int 2.6.18-4-k7"
is a duplicate of a previous report you sent to CPAN Testers.

Test report will not be sent.

ESC[0mESC[1;34;47m  FLORA/Net_SSLeay.pm-1.30.tar.gz
ESC[0mESC[1;34;47m  /usr/bin/make test -- OK
ESC[0mESC[1;34;47mRunning make install



	Time to disable Net_SSLeay completely? Remember, we have already a very
	old bug report for it. (http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=24180)

2007-05-17  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* install Parrot::Interpreter

	cc -o miniparrot src/main.o \
    -Wl,-rpath=/home/sand/.cpan/build/parrot-0.4.12-Y2yjot/blib/lib -L/home/sand/.cpan/build/parrot-0.4.12-Y2yjot/blib/lib -lparrot  -lnsl -ldl -lm -lcrypt -lutil -lpthread -lrt -lgmp -lreadline -lncurses -L/usr/local/lib -Wl,-E   src/null_config.o
Invoking Parrot to generate runtime/parrot/include/config.fpmc --cross your fingers
./miniparrot config_lib.pasm > runtime/parrot/include/config.fpmc
miniparrot: src/events.c:270: init_events_first: Assertion `rc == 0' failed.
/bin/sh: line 1: 20487 Aborted                 ./miniparrot config_lib.pasm >runtime/parrot/include/config.fpmc

	An unlucky but an amazing first time experience. (This was with blead)

	And with maint? Same thing.

	* Pod::Xhtml 1.56 fails but this seems just a dependency bug.

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=27165

	And fixed in 1.57.

2007-05-16  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* DBIx::Class also became unstable recently. Something to do with
	sqlite?

2007-05-15  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* http://use.perl.org/~BinGOs/journal/33270

	Bingos explains how to smoke.

2007-05-14  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Todo: Revisit ABERGMAN/B::Generate (DONE), Devel-Profile (DONE),
	Term-Size-Unix, GAAL/Best (DONE), Class-DBI;

	What's up with MetaSyntactic? (DONE)

	How to deal with the pseudohashes cargo in BRADFITZ universe?

	Watch out for duplicate posts to cpantesters probably due to an older
	Reporter (0.41 instead of 0.43!). Binary search must always upgrade it.
	(DONE)

	Go after users of too old ExtUtils::AutoInstall(?) What speaks against
	it is that I'm still not happy about Module::Install and an upgrade does
	not gain us much. But something was broken recently in OpenPGP, right?

----Program----
eval q{use Best 0.11};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../pf18JVi/perl-5.8.0@30979/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../p1MWHxg/perl-5.8.0@30980/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----

	* Perl6-Attributes broken by 31200 got a BBC article. Fixed by Davem.

	* Module-Info:

	% perl bin/show-history.pl MBARBON/Module-Info-0.30.tar.gz

20070420T2054 perl        30999  756 OK    
20070421T0311 perl        31000  286 OK    
20070421T0807 maint-5.8   30961  377 NOT OK
20070421T1330 perl        31008  416 NOT OK

	All before that were OK, all after NOT OK. Looks like a version.pm problem.

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=27114

2007-05-13  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Class::DBI is breathtaking:

% perl bin/show-history.pl TMTM/Class-DBI-v3.0.16.tar.gz | cut -c 38- | sort | uniq -c
    261 NOT OK
      2 OK    

	Twice OK!

	* STAS/libapreq-1.33.tar.gz: the Makefile.PL fails when mod_perl isn't
	installed. Should write a bugreport.

2007-05-12  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* PJCJ/Devel-Cover-0.61.tar.gz:

20070306T0133 perl        30481    0 OK
20070306T0908 maint-5.8   30480    0 OK
20070306T1150 perl        30482    0 OK
20070306T1747 perl        30488    0 NOT OK
20070306T2256 perl        30489    0 NOT OK
20070307T1836 perl        30497    0 NOT OK
20070308T0013 perl        30500    0 NOT OK
20070308T0533 perl        30510    0 NOT OK
20070308T1220 perl        30511    0 NOT OK
20070308T1754 perl        30518    0 NOT OK
20070309T0854 maint-5.8   30509    0 OK
20070309T2004 perl        30525    0 NOT OK

	* Attacking perlbal from inside. There are three envariables to turn on
	debugging and I can add code to use them. But where does the server log
	its problems?

	The code hints at syslog but maybe user sand cannot do that? 

	The stupid thing is that Perlbal cannot do something but all it
	complains about is "Configuration error". Currently 1.58 does that for
	both 23023 and 31199. And 20002. And 16961.

	Maybe it is trivial, something with /tmp and permissions? All I need is
	the real reason for the error.

	Finally a brilliant idea:

	make testdb TEST_FILE=t/10-testharness.t

  DB<9> n
ERROR: Modification of a read-only value attempted at blib/lib/Perlbal/TCPListener.pm line 51.
Configuration error at blib/lib/Perlbal/Test.pm line 132.

	Which leads me to a line where a fields object gets reblessed:

	 51     bless $self, ref $class || $class;

	So same problem as in Danga::Socket and I can fix that. But before that
	I should have a look at a rebless module.

	Yes, a dozen spots where a fields object gets reblessed. Then this:

crash log: Attempt to access disallowed key 'last_request_time' in a restricted hash at blib/lib/Perlbal/ClientProxy.pm line 90, <GEN2> line 1.

	Now only 32-selector.t fails. It seems to have to do with inheritance. I
	put a little debugging into rebless() and see this:

[pid=29009->29015]  DB<10> beginning run
ok 2 - perlbal started
ok 3 - status response ok
ok 4 - one done
crash log: Caught[Hash has key 'reproxy_expected_size' which is not in the new key set at /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pYqY8BO/perl-5.8.0@31199/lib/site_perl/5.9.5/Danga/Socket.pm line 1380
crash log: ]oldref[Perlbal::ClientHTTPBase]newref[Perlbal::ClientHTTP] at /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pYqY8BO/perl-5.8.0@31199/lib/site_perl/5.9.5/Danga/Socket.pm line 1383
crash log:      Danga::Socket::rebless('Perlbal::ClientHTTP=HASH(0x8adc320)', 'Perlbal::ClientHTTP') called at blib/lib/Perlbal/ClientHTTP.pm line 49
crash log:      Perlbal::ClientHTTP::new_from_base('Perlbal::ClientHTTP', 'Perlbal::ClientHTTP=HASH(0x8adc320)') called at blib/lib/Perlbal/Service.pm line 1301
crash log:      Perlbal::Service::adopt_base_client('Perlbal::Service=HASH(0x8cf4d74)', 'Perlbal::ClientHTTP=HASH(0x8adc320)') called at blib/lib/Perlbal/Plugin/Vhosts.pm line 123
crash log:      Perlbal::Plugin::Vhosts::__ANON__[blib/lib/Perlbal/Plugin/Vhosts.pm:125]('webserver') called at blib/lib/Perlbal/Plugin/Vhosts.pm line 141
crash log:      Perlbal::Plugin::Vhosts::vhost_selector('Perlbal::ClientHTTP=HASH(0x8adc320)') called at blib/lib/Perlbal/ClientHTTPBase.pm line 249
crash log:      Perlbal::ClientHTTPBase::__ANON__[blib/lib/Perlbal/ClientHTTPBase.pm:250]() called at blib/lib/Perlbal/ClientHTTPBase.pm line 256
crash log:      Perlbal::ClientHTTPBase::event_read('Perlbal::ClientHTTP=HASH(0x8adc320)') called at /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pYqY8BO/perl-5.8.0@31199/lib/site_perl/5.9.5/Danga/Socket.pm line 527
crash log:      Danga::Socket::EpollEventLoop('Perlbal::Socket') called at blib/lib/Perlbal.pm line 1180
crash log:      eval {...} called at blib/lib/Perlbal.pm line 1178
crash log:      Perlbal::run() called at blib/lib/Perlbal/Test.pm line 138
crash log:      Perlbal::Test::_start_perbal_server('\x{a}LOAD vhosts\x{a}CREATE POOL a\x{a}\x{a}CREATE SERVICE ss\x{a}  SET ss.listen...', 60003) called at blib/lib/Perlbal/Test.pm line 116
crash log:      Perlbal::Test::start_server('\x{a}LOAD vhosts\x{a}CREATE POOL a\x{a}\x{a}CREATE SERVICE ss\x{a}  SET ss.listen...') called at t/32-selector.t line 56
ending run

	So I try to write a new rebless function that which locks the old keys
	AND the new keys. Again

t/32-selector.t  255 65280    38   72  3-38

	Yes, this can be worked around with extremely ugly nonsensical code.
	But it may give way to something better.

	For now I put the patch into the patches directory.

	* Bug: megainstall.20070511T2103.out shows an endless loop for HTML-GMap.

---- Unsatisfied dependencies detected during ----
----      PCANARAN/HTML-GMap-0.02.tar.gz      ----
    GD::Icons [requires]
    CGI::Session [requires]
    Time::Format [requires]

	Then it satisfied GD::Icons and Time::Format and from then it looped
	with

Running make for P/PC/PCANARAN/HTML-GMap-0.02.tar.gz
  Has already been unwrapped into directory /home/sand/.cpan/build/HTML-GMap-0.02-1Cclg2

  CPAN.pm: Going to build P/PC/PCANARAN/HTML-GMap-0.02.tar.gz

---- Unsatisfied dependencies detected during ----
----      PCANARAN/HTML-GMap-0.02.tar.gz      ----
    CGI::Session [requires]
Running make test
  Delayed until after prerequisites
Running make install
  Delayed until after prerequisites
Running install for module 'CGI::Session'
Running make install
  make test had returned bad status, won't install without force
Running make for P/PC/PCANARAN/HTML-GMap-0.02.tar.gz

	It is a goto problem. CGI-Session had a goto but the target then failed.

2007-05-11  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Uploaded today:

CFRANKS   Perl6-Junction-1.30000.tar.gz           6k   11 May 2007
MARKOV    MailTools-1.77.tar.gz                  47k   11 May 2007

	* If I find a way to reproduce the test breakage, Tim asks for:

	DBI_TRACE=4 DBD_GOFER_TRACE=1 DBI_GOFER_TRACE=4 perl -Mblib t/zvg_85gofer.t > zvg_85gofer.log 2>&1

	* JPRIT/Event-1.08.tar.gz broken by bleadperl but not easy to track.

	http://groups.google.de/group/perl.perl5.porters/browse_frm/thread/f17cb95982764f54/afa5337cf7fe5c7d?lnk=gst&q=Josh+Event&rnum=1&hl=de#afa5337cf7fe5c7d

	But where's the patch? This was a week ago on 31130. Patch uploaded and
	distropref written.

	* SUNGO/POE-API-Peek-1.0802.tar.gz never works but it has only PASSes on
	cpantesters. Dependency on Devel::Size.

	* RIZEN/Config-JSON-1.0.3.tar.gz broke on the day we switched user:

20070417T1509 perl        30970  375 OK    
20070418T2250 perl        30977  443 NOT OK

	Again a predictable filename in /tmp/

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=27078

2007-05-10  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* PETDANCE / Test::WWW::Mechanize 1.12 is failing all the time.

	There is a cleanup routine that kills the server without further
	diagnostics. The reason why this cleanup is called prematurely is
	"Can\'t locate Encode/ConfigLocal.pm in @INC" what I found out by
	running through the debugger. Called at Encode.pm line 53 !!!

 50 our %Encoding;
 51 our %ExtModule;
 52 require Encode::Config;
 53 eval { require Encode::ConfigLocal };

	Is this a $^S issue? Yes, as already reported by mark@blackmans.org in

	https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=26602

	* top failing module today is MARKSTOS/CGI-Session-4.20. Does not sound
	familiar. But in fact it failed all runs since 30977, both maint and
	blead. I have already reported to cpantesters but most reports were
	PASS. ARRRG, this is the annoying circular data structures problem in
	JSON::Syck. We seem to have a negative dependency on JSON::Syck. But as
	we always install it because it comes with YAML::Syck we see the
	negative report always.

	And now I discover that there is a 4.20_1 since last November. But it
	fails at the same test.

	* 26664 is reopened by Marek and he asks for a chmod before running
	patch. I'd think we should chmod selectively.

	* Jifty caused a hang in the test suite again. I solved it the same way
	as the other times but this time I had to kill an additional ptee
	process which apparently was still waiting. Frightening.

	* B::Generate seems to be broken. It was also already broken at 23023
	which is my first intermediate point to base binary searches on because
	it is faster than 20002. And the interval [20002,23023] is it.

----Program----
eval q{use B::Generate 1.06};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../pCWADJn/perl-5.8.0@22314/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../pXfp3lj/perl-5.8.0@22315/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----

	* JAW/Devel-Profile-1.05.tar.gz looks like a candidate for a binary search.

	It is OK on maint and fails on blead since 30950 (the earliest I have
	ATM). But 23023 fails the same way. So we slip into the [22682,22741]
	interval and binary search starts building new old perls.

  CPAN.pm: Going to build J/JA/JAW/Devel-Profile-1.05.tar.gz

Checking if your kit is complete...
Looks good
Writing Makefile for Devel::Profile
cp Profile.pm blib/lib/Devel/Profile.pm
Manifying blib/man3/Devel::Profile.3
  JAW/Devel-Profile-1.05.tar.gz
  /usr/bin/make -- OK
Running make test
CPAN::Reporter not installed, falling back to testing without
PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/p7UlFTf/perl-5.8.0@22741/bin/perl "-MExtUtils::Command::MM" "-e" "test_harness(0, 'blib/lib', 'blib/arch')" t/*.t
t/test1....ok
t/test2....dubious
        Test returned status 0 (wstat 11, 0xb)
t/test3....cannot open prof.out: No such file or directory
t/test3....dubious
        Test returned status 2 (wstat 512, 0x200)
DIED. FAILED tests 1-2
        Failed 2/2 tests, 0.00% okay
t/test4....dubious
        Test returned status 0 (wstat 11, 0xb)
t/test5....cannot open prof.out: No such file or directory
t/test5....dubious
        Test returned status 2 (wstat 512, 0x200)
DIED. FAILED tests 1-2
        Failed 2/2 tests, 0.00% okay
Failed Test Stat Wstat Total Fail  List of Failed
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
t/test2.t      0    11    ??   ??  ??
t/test3.t      2   512     2    4  1-2
t/test4.t      0    11    ??   ??  ??
t/test5.t      2   512     2    4  1-2
Failed 4/5 test scripts. 4/5 subtests failed.
Files=5, Tests=5,  0 wallclock secs ( 0.13 cusr +  0.02 csys =  0.15 CPU)
Failed 4/5 test programs. 4/5 subtests failed.
make: *** [test_dynamic] Error 2
  JAW/Devel-Profile-1.05.tar.gz
  /usr/bin/make test -- NOT OK
Running make install
  make test had returned bad status, won't install without force
----Program----
eval q{use Devel::Profile 1.05};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../p4yYZ5s/perl-5.8.0@22739/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../p7UlFTf/perl-5.8.0@22741/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----
Need a perl between 22739 and 22741
No patch available between 22739 and 22741

	Change 22741 by davem@davem-percy on 2004/04/23 20:43:02

	    Include variable names in "Use of uninitialized value" warnings

	http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl5.porters/browse_thread/thread/4b3dafe41b70c5a6/b056a4d7ae5a673a?lnk=gst&q=22741+bbc&rnum=1#b056a4d7ae5a673a

	* MCMAHON!Devel-Command-0.08.xml consistently succeeds with maint and
	fails with blead.

	The test always says: "Your Perl can't be patched by Devel::Command"

	It's about the debugger and Module::Pluggable is involved but the README
	does not talk about what these perldb extensions are. All manpages also
	refuse to talk about what they do. They point at each other and talk
	about how they do it but not what *it* is. Weird.

	* Sam Tregar has not only XML::Validator::Schema in the problem zone but
	also DBIx-Timeout. The former has got a BBC article on P5P:

	http://groups.google.de/group/perl.perl5.porters/browse_frm/thread/a35e0d07783e6aee/3506f54c43a8b6aa?lnk=gst&q=sam+tregar&rnum=9&hl=de#3506f54c43a8b6aa

	But the latter? It is on my radar since 20070414T2030 and has always
	failed since. Ah, that's easy, it needs a DBI DSN. For some reason it
	believes that it can connect to mysql.

	Now it got a distropref.

	* package Module::Install::With;

	needs some cooperation from here

	* YAPPO/String-Diff-0.02 complains

	Can't locate inc/Module/Install.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /home/src/perl
/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/p9xHaBy/perl-5.8.0@31166/lib/5.9.5/i686-linux-64
int /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/p9xHaBy/perl-5.8.0@31166/lib/5
.9.5 /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/p9xHaBy/perl-5.8.0@31166/lib/
site_perl/5.9.5/i686-linux-64int /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/p
9xHaBy/perl-5.8.0@31166/lib/site_perl/5.9.5 .) at Makefile.PL line 1.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at Makefile.PL line 1.

	It looks like a wrong usage of Module::Install. Sometimes it succeeds.

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=27048

	* EWILHELM seems to break the EUMM mantra in more distros than only Math-Vec

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=26925

	I saw the same with Math-Round-Var and so gave him a distropref with a
	match for his CPAN id.

2007-05-08  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Perlbal 1.57 maybe needs a binary search although I have mixed success
	in maintperl. But I have never success on blead with "configuration
	error". The failure with maint@31100 is always in t/17-webserver-concat
	and repeating the test several times does not change that. maint@30961
	exposes the same failure and an additional one in 15-webserver.
	maint@30765 has the one in 17 only. maint@30588 succeeds. maint@30210
	again has failure in 15 but not the one in 17. When I repeated the test
	it succeeded.

	_S_IFMT and S_IFDIR and S_IFREG are involved in the failure in the 17X
	test.

	http://groups.google.de/group/perl.perl5.porters/msg/d65da80913cff3ff

	where Alex Tourbin posts 'fixed Fcntl::S_IFMT() breakage introduced by
	change 30674 (blead 26701)'

	Aha. So this is it and the chapter is not yet closed.

	To run a binary search we probably must exclude the flaky test 15x. And
	then 45x and 12x turn out to be flaky as well.

	Does not work out. The root seems to be older than 20000 and then LWP
	failures masq the Perlbal failures. I must come up with a bit phantasy.
	
	* RMUHLE/classes-0.943.tar.gz needs a binary search

	It turns out that the test results are only negative when
	Test::Exception is installed, otherwise they are OK. So to run a binary
	search one would have to install Test::Exception and uninstall all
	instances of classes.pm we have at the moment. Hrmmmm.

	Well, when I take 5.8.8 and install Test::Exception and then test
	classes.pm it succeeds. I removed all installed classes.pm under blead
	and started a binary search with @22323 as lower boundary. 20002 was
	unsuited because it took so long to compile zlib stuff and then fail.
	But 22323 suffers from the same problem. But then, we're through, it is
	suited for this binary search run.

	REPORTED

	http://groups.google.de/group/perl.perl5.porters/browse_frm/thread/2b25aab152652e00/006a4f9e37f63890?hl=de#006a4f9e37f63890
	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=27047

	And a separate bug report about the fact the Test::Exception itself is
	not in the dependencies:

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=27853

	* EDPRATOMO/Algorithm-Permute-0.06.tar.gz needs a binary search.

cc -c   -DDEBUGGING -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -I/usr/local/include -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -g   -DVERSION=\"0.06\" -DXS_VERSION=\"0.06\" -fPIC "-I/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/p9xHaBy/perl-5.8.0@31166/lib/5.9.5/i686-linux-64int/CORE"  -DPERL_EXT Permute.c
Permute.xs: In function 'permute_engine':
Permute.xs:126: error: 'XPVAV' has no member named 'xav_array'
Permute.c: In function 'XS_Algorithm__Permute_next':
Permute.c:245: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size
Permute.c: In function 'XS_Algorithm__Permute_DESTROY':
Permute.c:296: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size
Permute.c: In function 'XS_Algorithm__Permute_peek':
Permute.c:331: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size
Permute.c: In function 'XS_Algorithm__Permute_reset':
Permute.c:367: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size
Permute.xs: In function 'XS_Algorithm__Permute_permute':
Permute.xs:306: error: 'XPVAV' has no member named 'xav_array'
Permute.xs:347: error: 'XPVAV' has no member named 'xav_array'

	REPORTED to P5P and author. BBC article:

	http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/perl5-porters/2007-05/msg00297.html
	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=27022

	* PETDANCE/Template-Timer-0.04: I'm already used to seeing it fail. But
	I just discovered that there were 4 consecutive sessions where it
	succeeded:

20070430T1340 perl          31107  634 NOT OK
20070501T0032 perl          31110  760 OK
20070501T1746 perl          31111  769 OK
20070502T0515 perl          31113  416 OK
20070502T1604 perl          31117  431 OK
20070502T2300 perl          31120  505 NOT OK

	It is not that simple that Template were missing. There is something
	else going on.

	* Apache-Session started to have a Semaphore problem recently:

20070417T1509 perl          30970  116 OK
20070417T2056 perl          30971    0 OK
20070418T2250 perl          30977  145 NOT OK

	The semaphore tells us:

t/99flex...........Permission denied at /home/sand/.cpan/build/Apache-Session-1.82-jeBTMQ/blib/lib/Apache/Session/Lock/Semaphore.pm line 92.
        (in cleanup) Permission denied at /home/sand/.cpan/build/Apache-Session-1.82-jeBTMQ/blib/lib/Apache/Session/Lock/Semaphore.pm line 92.

	When I run the same test as user k it works.

	The IPC::Semaphore manpage says:

If you get an invalid argument message, that usually means that the system
is unhappy with the number of semaphores that you requested.  Try decreasing
the number of semaphores.  The semaphore blocks that this package creates
are persistent until the system is rebooted, so if you request 8 sempahores
one time and 16 sempahores the next, it won't work.  Use the system
commands ipcs and ipcrm to inspect and remove unwanted semphore blocks.

	Let's do that!... Done and now Apache-Session passes all tests and
	report is written to cpantesters. Phew! Apologies for the bogus report
	if anybody reads this.

2007-05-07  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* SWF-Builder now probably nailed with
	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=26971

	* Todo: write a distropref for CPANPLUS with a goto 1.79_01.

2007-05-06  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* RRWO/CPAN-YACSmoke-0.03.tar.gz also broke recently

20070422T1717 perl          31019  817 OK
20070423T0905 maint-5.8     31011    0 NOT OK
20070423T1448 perl          31029  284 NOT OK

	That's a normal dependency on Regexp::Assemble. But why on maint? This
	was a dependency on the (then) broken CPANPLUS.

	And why do I have no maint result since then? Because CPANPLUS is still
	recursively dependent on itself.

	* ROBM/Cache-FastMmap-1.14.tar.gz came under the wheels:

20070417T1509 perl          30970  583 OK
20070418T2250 perl          30977  424 NOT OK

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=26951

	One should really run the whole megainstall with a random userid to find
	more of these bugs.

2007-05-05  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Jarkko's Graph is now seismograph and consistently failing apparently
	starting with 31105. But there was another interval where it failed!
	That interval started with 31079:

----Program----
eval q{use Graph 0.81};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../pnKRDVH/perl-5.8.0@31078/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../pGHaMwh/perl-5.8.0@31079/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----

	and ended with 31104. But 31105 is an impossible candidate for a
	breaker. Maybe we must pay attn to the date once more?

20070428T1842 perl          31104    0 OK
20070429T0705 perl          31105    0 NOT OK

	So what changed between the two perls?

	/home/k/.cpan/Bundle/Snapshot_2007_05_05_0[01].pm

	Heap           0.71   => 0.80
	Module::Build  0.2807 => 0.2808
	Math::BaseCalc ???    => 1.011

	Yes, downgrading Heap fixes it. http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=26943

	* Locale::TextDomain seems to have been fixed or improved some day (30971) but
	it still fails occasionally.

	* JSON 1.12 needed a binary search and it ended with

----Program----
eval q{use JSON 1.12};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../pB7ZOd0/perl-5.8.0@27263/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../pWOlwj4/perl-5.8.0@27264/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----

	Change 27264 by nicholas@nicholas-saigo on 2006/02/21 19:04:39

	Reorder the SV flags so that SVp_?OK and SVf_?OK occupy 8 contiguous
	bits (0x0000XX00). This makes perl 3K smaller with -Os on x86 FreeBSD,
	and might also help on other architectures (eg with 8 contiguous bits,
	the SvOK() test on ARM won't need an intermediate constant).
	

2007-05-04  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Gtk2 has the dependency ExtUtils::Depends as I discovered today and
	then Glib.pm. Both not mentioned in the prereq decl or maybe mentioned
	in the Makefile.PL but PREREQ_FATAL is set and MakeMaker still does not
	let me override it.

	A small patch now at least lets me install the prereqs and demonstrates
	nicely that configure_requires is really needed.

	Annoyingly it says

*** can not find package gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0
*** check that it is properly installed and available in PKG_CONFIG_PATH
 at Makefile.PL line 69

	And I cannot find out which package I have to install on debian and I
	remember that on previous occasions I did not find out the problem
	either.

	The message above comes from ExtUtils::PkgConfig. Maybe it is broken?

	Maybe I must remove libgtk 1.2 first?

	Nope. Test program insists:

% /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/p2VJt9O/perl-5.8.0@31136/bin/perl -le '
use ExtUtils::PkgConfig; 
$package ="gtk+-2.0";
%pkg_info = ExtUtils::PkgConfig->find ($package); 
'
*** can not find package gtk+-2.0
*** check that it is properly installed and available in PKG_CONFIG_PATH
 at -e line 4

	I put the patch into the patches directory and give up for now.

	* make a release for Adam and send it to him before actually releasing
	(because I broke pip)

	* Net::Libdnet on debian needs to change d to dumb in two spots:

	Libdnet.xs must say include dumbnet.h and Makefile.PL must say -ldumbnet.

	That runs all tests OK. That should be wrapped into a DEFINE.

	* Nothing TODO: Event 1.08 broken in blead. It's just the test suite,
	not Event itself. It was discussed on P5P.

2007-05-03  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* XML::Validator::Schema fails tests. Binary search points to 29118.
	Repeating the binary search with different starting points

	* disabled modules get no "markup" in the output to split them out of
	the logfile.

	* 2688{4,6} by Matthias. Complicated materiel from a scriptwriter who
	needs cleanup help for build_dir. Maybe we should make build_dir_reuse
	mandatory too.

2007-05-02  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Last run had a lot of fails but it seems the first failure was due to
	a timeout (DBI), the others were just dependency traps. The batch job
	running colorout-to-dir.pl apparently drew too many ressources. I've
	added a sleep.

2007-05-01  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* The UTF-8 HOWTO is by Bruno Haible. Markus Kuhn wrote
	http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/unicode.html which is a FAQ. The latter
	contains 'How should the UTF-8 mode be activated?'

	* Todo: Jesse Vincent #26840

2007-04-30  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Locale::TextDomain: I realize now that the results are mixed. One NOT
	OK between 4 or 5 OKs. So there's something very fishy going on.

	* Theoretical prereq bug needs testing: "test" must ask for "available"
	modules (which includes the part coming from PERL5LIB), but "install"
	must ask for "installed" modules (but this only for requires, not for
	build_requires).
 
	* Bug: patch(1) does not understand --fuzz everywhere as reported by MAREKR
	in https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=26664

	Need a module or better probing.

	* http://use.perl.org/comments.pl?threshold=0&mode=nested&commentsort=0&op=Change&sid=35312

	Barbie asks for getting CPAN.pm support into CPAN::YACSmoke

	* parrot should be advised on a group account on pause.

2007-04-29  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Interesting ticket: https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=26727

	about redrawing the current line after something has moved the cursor.

2007-04-28  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Jifty again. Same recipe as last time, still no clue.

	* Here broke Tk and Regexp-Assemble:

20070422T1717 perl        31019
20070423T1448 perl        31029

	Slaven determined 31027. In addition a binary search is running in case
	we need it again.

----Program----
eval {require Regexp::Assemble};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../phti9p4/perl-5.8.0@31025/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../pgwvrPP/perl-5.8.0@31027/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----
Need a perl between 31025 and 31027
(but 31026 could not successfully be used to build perl)

	REPORTED to P5P

2007-04-26  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Jifty hangs again in the middle of its tests. The last lines in the
	output file ()megainstall.20070426T1003.out) are:

#   Failed test 'use Jifty::Test::WWW::Mechanize;'
#   at t/Continuations/t/04-before-blocks.t line 18.
#     Tried to use 'Jifty::Test::WWW::Mechanize'.
#     Error:  Base class package "Test::WWW::Mechanize" is empty.
#     (Perhaps you need to 'use' the module which defines that package first.)
#  at /home/sand/.cpan/build/Jifty-0.70422-sTB0F8/blib/lib/Jifty/Test/WWW/Mechan
ize.pm line 5
# BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at t/Continuations/t/04-before-blocks.t line
 18.
# Compilation failed in require at (eval 928) line 2.
# BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at (eval 928) line 2.
Can't locate object method "new" via package "Jifty::Test::WWW::Mechanize" at t/
Continuations/t/04-before-blocks.t line 22.
# Looks like you planned 9 tests but only ran 2.
# Looks like you failed 1 test of 2 run.



	See further below for a similar example on 2007-04-01. I must now kill
	the hanging jobs and then see how the logfile continues. Maybe it gives
	me a clue?

	OR NO! much better I first try to input something in the interactive
	window. I enter RET twice and "y\n" 7 times. Nothing.

	I find the job that hange by stepping down the pid->ppid chain (pstree
	did not show me these processes). 29902 is my megainstall:

% ps -o user,pid,ppid -a | grep 29902
sand     29902 29901
sand     29654 29902
% ps -o user,pid,ppid -a | grep 29654
sand     29654 29902
sand     29818 29654
% ps -o user,pid,ppid -a | grep 29818
sand     29818 29654
sand     29886 29818
% ps -o user,pid,ppid -a | grep 29886
sand     29886 29818
% ps auxww|grep 29886
sand     29886  0.0  0.0      0     0 pts/5    Z+   12:38   0:03 [perl] <defunct>

	Oh it's a zombie! Neither kill nor kill -9 do anything useful. So the
	parent is to kill?

% ps auxww|grep 29818
sand     29818  0.0  0.3   9080  4900 pts/5    S+   12:36   0:00 /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pJHvqE3/perl-5.8.0@31080/bin/perl -MExtUtils::Command::MM -e test_harness(0, 'inc', 'blib/lib', 'blib/arch') t/00-load.t t/01-dependencies.t t/01-test-mechanize.t t/01-test-web.t t/01-version_checks.t t/02-connect.t t/03-form-protocol.t t/03-is_passing-no_plan.t t/03-is_passing.t t/03-test-mailbox.t t/04-test_file.t t/05-dispatcher.t t/06-forms.t t/07-limit-actions.t t/08-client.t t/09-url.t t/10-i18n.t t/11-config-files.t t/12-param-schema.t t/99-pod-coverage.t t/99-pod.t t/DateTime.t t/Continuations/t/00-prototype.t t/Continuations/t/01-raw-api.t t/Continuations/t/02-api.t t/Continuations/t/03-gc.t t/Continuations/t/04-before-blocks.t t/Mapper/t/00-prototype.t t/Mapper/t/01-raw-api.t t/Mapper/t/02-api.t t/TestApp-Plugin-PasswordAuth/t/00-model-User.t t/TestApp-Plugin-PasswordAuth/t/01-tokengen.t t/TestApp-Plugin-PasswordAuth/t/11-current_user.t t/TestApp-Plugin-PasswordAuth/t/12-signup.t t/TestApp-Plugin-REST/t/00-model-User.t t/TestApp-Plugin-REST/t/00-prototype.t t/TestApp-Plugin-REST/t/01-config.t t/TestApp-Plugin-REST/t/02-basic-use.t t/TestApp/t/00-model-User.t t/TestApp/t/00-prototype.t t/TestApp/t/01-config.t t/TestApp/t/02-dispatch-show-rule-in-wrong-ruleset.t t/TestApp/t/02-dispatch.t t/TestApp/t/03-static.t t/TestApp/t/04-sessions.t t/TestApp/t/05-editactions-Cachable.t t/TestApp/t/05-editactions-Record.t t/TestApp/t/06-validation.t t/TestApp/t/07-sandboxing.t t/TestApp/t/08-notifications.t t/TestApp/t/09-redirect.t t/TestApp/t/10-compress.t t/TestApp/t/11-current_user.t t/TestApp/t/12-search.t t/TestApp/t/13-page-regions.t t/TestApp/t/14-template-paths.t t/TestApp/t/15-template-subclass.t t/TestApp/t/i18n-standalone.t t/TestApp/t/instance_id.t t/TestApp/t/regex_meta_in_path_info.t t/TestApp/t/upgrade.t

	Now I killed it. The output leads to the end of Jifty's tests:

make[3]: *** [test_dynamic] Beendet
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/sand/.cpan/build/Jifty-0.70422-sTB0F8'
  JESSE/Jifty-0.70422.tar.gz
  /usr/bin/make test -- NOT OK

	
	
	
	


	* my emacs could not send this email with a insufficient error message:

From: andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de (Andreas J. Koenig)
To: andreas.koenig.gmwojprw@franz.ak.mind.de
Cc: cpan-testers@perl.org, FERREIRA@cpan.org
Subject: Re: FAIL Term-Size-Unix-0.203 i686-linux-64int 2.6.18-4-k7
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--text follows this line--
>>>>> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 07:41:52 +0200, andreas.koenig.gmwojprw@franz.ak.mind.de said:

  > ------------------------------
  > TESTER COMMENTS
  > ------------------------------

  > Additional comments from tester: 

It turns out that the test only fails when run under CPAN::Reporter.
Somehow the IO layer that CPAN::Reporter uses fools Term::Size::Unix
so that the test fails.

I can reproduce a similar effect by simply running

    make test > /dev/null < /dev/null

The STDERR of this is:

  $ make test > /dev/null < /dev/null
  # Testing Term::Size::Unix 0.203, Perl 5.009005, /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pGHaMwh/perl-5.8.0@31079/bin/perl

  #   Failed test at t/01_basic.t line 7.

  #   Failed test at t/01_basic.t line 10.
  #     Structures begin differing at:
  #          $got->[0] = ''
  #     $expected->[0] = '80'

  #   Failed test at t/01_basic.t line 16.
  Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at t/01_basic.t line 21.
  # This terminal is x characters,
  Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at t/01_basic.t line 21.
  #   and x pixels.
  # Looks like you failed 3 tests of 6.
  Failed 1/3 test programs. 3/13 subtests failed.
  make[1]: *** [test_dynamic] Error 255


2007-04-25  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* the logfile is 34MB instead of 11, who is to blame? 20070424T2309 has
	197018 lines while 20070424T0304 had 151351. There must be one very log
	line? No. The longest line in each case is 4145. I need the distribution
	of the lengths and here I discover 44719 lines with the same length, 507
	bytes.

	It is a database dump or some such with the columns

	|Elt|Got|Elt|Expected|

	with lots of whitespace. This comes out in the middle of the tests of
	PJCJ/Devel-Cover-0.61.tar.gz. There seems to be a call to eq_or_diff
	when t/at1.t fails and this spits out >22MB.

	This was between 31046 and 31058.

	This binary search must run at1.t and capture its output and output
	something like 'length $output < 100000 ? "ok" : "not ok"'.

2007-04-23  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Found 2481 old builds, restored the state of 968

	maintperl brings more weight because less fails (110)

2007-04-22  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Found 1948 old builds, restored the state of 939

	But 160 fails.

	* XML::Comma 1.98:

	STORE_ERROR -- make id error: DB_CONNECTION_ERROR -- DBI connect('comma:localhost;mysql_local_infile=1','comma',...) failed: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' (2) at .test/lib//XML/Comma/SQL/DBH_User.pm line 135 at t/multi_store_doctype.t line 36 at t/multi_store_doctype.t line 36
# Looks like you planned 29 tests but only ran 1.

	Who believes that the socket must be under /tmp/?

	editing bin/comma-create-config.pl doesn't help. It seems that there was
	a DBI or DBD::mysql change at some point in time. Or all my DBD::mysqls
	were build wrongly?

	Maybe, for sure the connect string must now be:

	DBI->connect("DBI:mysql:database=comma;host=localhost;mysql_socket=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock;mysql_local_infile=1","comma","comma")

	and XML::Comma does not allow to configure that interactively. Reported
	on RT in ticket 26540.

	* What's the problem with Module-Release? I started watching it on
	20070413 and got only fails since.
	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=26539

2007-04-21  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Found 2269 old builds, restored the state of 932

	* r command spits out:

GD::Graph::Data            1.21.2.2      1.21  BWARFIELD/GDGraph-1.4307.tar.gz
GD::Graph::axestype       1.44.2.14      1.44  MVERB/GDGraph-1.43.tar.gz
GD::Graph::pie             1.20.2.4      1.20  BWARFIELD/GDGraph-1.4306.tar.gz

	Is already reported on RT.

	* Regression in blead!

t/05_typelike....No such class: 'ARRAY'! at /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-p
erls/perl/pRQK8my/perl-5.8.0@30999/lib/5.9.5/overload.pm line 99.
# Looks like you planned 29 tests but only ran 8.
# Looks like your test died just after 8.
dubious 
        Test returned status 255 (wstat 65280, 0xff00)
DIED. FAILED tests 9-29
        Failed 21/29 tests, 27.59% okay

	I first noticed it with Params::Util. 

	20070419T1942 was the first one to fail, so it happened between

	20070419T1622 perl        30979
	20070419T1942 perl        30985

	Only 8 tests out of my 880 distributions fail with this regression:

	Params::Util, Graph (3 tests), 

	Then Algorithm::Dependency tries again to test Params::Util 4 times. Why
	4 times?

	First time during make because I forgot to set PERL_AUTOINSTALL=--skip.
	It seems to choose CPANPLUS to do the job, maybe because I have set
	CPANPLUS_IS_RUNNING? CPANPLUS then runs make test on Params::Util twice.
	Then CPANPLUS gives up with

*** Params::Util installation cancelled.
*** Module::AutoInstall installation finished.

	Then CPAN.pm reaches 'make test' and Module::Autoinstall or something is
	called again from the Makefile and CPANPLUS runs the test on
	Params::Util twice again just to reach the same conclusion.

	The regression in blead is reported to P5P. The thing with
	Module::Install has no place where it should be directed. Rantbox?

	* The kwalify test also fails on 5.8.0 with YAML 0.39. Which YAML has my
	5.6.2? None, only YAML::Syck 0.84 which was a regression. Trying to
	compile 0.85 fails already during its own tests on 5.6.2. 0.82 ditto. So
	is it time to install 0.85 with force? Yes, but with this the test in
	12cpan still fails. Maybe I should ask the question the other way round.
	If we downgrade YAML to 0.39, can we then reproduce the bug with 5.9.5?
	Trying with blead@31000: make test OK; make run + install
	INGY/YAML-0.39.tar.gz OK; make test OK.

2007-04-20  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* off topic:
	http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/databases/2007/04/12/building-a-data-warehouse-with-mysql-and-perl.html
	(sam tragar)

	* http://bricas.vox.com/

	* it seems like maybe a recent upgrade of XML::LibXML broke XML::Atom?
	Where is the script that quickly confirms/denies this hypothesis?

	* "Found 1659 old builds, restored the state of 880"

	So we did not reach 1000 yet.

	* Test::WWW::Mechanize has many PASSes _and_ FAILs.

	* I have removed from megainstall: PGP::Sign because it does not set $|;
	and Djabberd because it seemed to hang in the test even when it could
	write to /tmp/djabberd/

	* 5.6.2 fails one kwalify test in 12cpan.t for non obvious reason.

2007-04-19  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Crypt::OpenPGP needs a fix in the distroprefs file. What was the
	problem? During XML-FOAF the usual recursion into installing OpenPGP
	seemed to happen. Yes, I had PERL_AUTOINSTALL set, now added
	PERL_EXTUTILS_AUTOINSTALL.

	As long as this was missing, we had to kill the recursively acting
	installer three times: during make, make test, and make install.

	DONE.

	* 1.91 is out.

2007-04-18  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* bug: megainstall contains Bundle::Pause which is not published. Should
	be.

2007-04-17  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* see thread "echo die > Makefile.PL" on module-authors. Fortunately,
	Joshua argues well.

	* Slaven sent me dependency statistics on freebsd ports of perl modules.
	I have checked the 208 top lines (20+ references) of 1200. I found
	IO::Socket::INET6 hanging and added a few others to megainstall.

	* reports command should display open issues on rt.cpan.org. Current
	value to look up is

	http://rt.cpan.org/Public/Dist/Display.html?Name=Template-Timer

	Currently one would search for the element table and count the number of
	tr minus one to get the number of new and open issues. The page is
	declared as XHTML strict but isn't compliant.

2007-04-16  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Most urgent tasks?

	Report Text::Hatena (JKONDO/Text-Hatena-0.20.tar.gz)

	Report Locale::TextDomain (GUIDO/libintl-perl-1.16.tar.gz)

	Write a bug report about Coro::Event and its interaction with CPAN.pm or
	find out how to fix it and write a patch. Turn off distroprefs or work
	without CPAN.pm to make things more obvious. Look:

	cpan[2]> m Coro::Event      
Module id = Coro::Event
    CPAN_USERID  MLEHMANN (Marc Lehmann <pcg@goof.com>)
    CPAN_VERSION 2.1
    CPAN_FILE    M/ML/MLEHMANN/Coro-3.6.tar.gz
    UPLOAD_DATE  2007-04-14
    MANPAGE      Coro::Event - do events the coro-way
    INST_FILE    (not installed)¯


	Analyse the endless loop in "fforce test Task::Smoke". Maybe the fforce
	is to blame?

	FirstTime manpage?

	Implement configure_requires? (testcase RPC::XML)

	Implement a depends/requires keyword for distroprefs? (Testcase
	Spreadsheet-ParseExcel (http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=24693)
	or XML-Filter-XInclude
	(http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=27401))

	Speedup the cleanup? DONE [...time passes...] But I do not like the new
	version. I want to see how long it takes/will take. svk rev. 2216 seems
	to provide that.

	Implement 30shell.t in a way that always emits useful output after a
	failure? DONE in SVK rev. 2255

	Find an opinion on MIME-tools. It seems that nobody cares. It's about
	undef in %INC. I think it can stay as it is and we must educate
	ourselves how %INC works now. But if it is not even in perldelta.pod?
	Discussion on P5P was 11/12.4.

	* Bug? "fforce test Task::Smoke" goes into an endless loop.
	Test-TAP-Model and Task-Smoke play ping pong. All other prreqs are
	satisfied quickly and prepended to PERL5LIB but these two stay active

  drwx------   6 k k   4096 Apr 16 06:58 Task-Smoke-0.15-5ksBtB
  -rw-rw-r--   1 k k   1424 Apr 16 06:58 Task-Smoke-0.15-5ksBtB.yml
  -rw-rw-r--   1 k k   1532 Apr 16 06:58 Test-TAP-Model-0.09-wUFmP9.yml
  drwx------   5 k k   4096 Apr 16 06:58 Test-TAP-Model-0.09-wUFmP9
  drwx------   6 k k   4096 Apr 16 06:58 Task-Smoke-0.15-QOiZ85
  -rw-rw-r--   1 k k   1424 Apr 16 06:58 Task-Smoke-0.15-QOiZ85.yml
  -rw-rw-r--   1 k k   1532 Apr 16 06:58 Test-TAP-Model-0.09-H3Lqy0.yml
  drwx------   5 k k   4096 Apr 16 06:58 Test-TAP-Model-0.09-H3Lqy0
  drwx------   6 k k   4096 Apr 16 06:58 Task-Smoke-0.15-6lDDuP
  -rw-rw-r--   1 k k   1424 Apr 16 06:58 Task-Smoke-0.15-6lDDuP.yml
  -rw-rw-r--   1 k k   1532 Apr 16 06:58 Test-TAP-Model-0.09-48ClDJ.yml
  drwx------   5 k k   4096 Apr 16 06:58 Test-TAP-Model-0.09-48ClDJ
  drwx------   6 k k   4096 Apr 16 06:57 Task-Smoke-0.15-V3h8gK
  -rw-rw-r--   1 k k   1424 Apr 16 06:57 Task-Smoke-0.15-V3h8gK.yml
  -rw-rw-r--   1 k k   1532 Apr 16 06:57 Test-TAP-Model-0.09-MI4CP5.yml
  drwx------   5 k k   4096 Apr 16 06:57 Test-TAP-Model-0.09-MI4CP5
  drwx------   6 k k   4096 Apr 16 06:57 Task-Smoke-0.15-0rmHRt
  -rw-rw-r--   1 k k   1424 Apr 16 06:57 Task-Smoke-0.15-0rmHRt.yml
  -rw-rw-r--   1 k k   1532 Apr 16 06:57 Test-TAP-Model-0.09-A0HeR8.yml
  drwx------   5 k k   4096 Apr 16 06:57 Test-TAP-Model-0.09-A0HeR8
  drwx------   6 k k   4096 Apr 16 06:57 Task-Smoke-0.15-BpPXIa

	After I interrupt the endless loop and say "install Task::Smoke" all is
	well quickly. Let's page back what was prepended to PERL5LIB?

---- Unsatisfied dependencies detected during ----
----        GAAL/Task-Smoke-0.15.tar.gz       ----
    Test::TAP::Model [requires]
Prepending /home/k/.cpan/build/Test-TAP-HTMLMatrix-0.08-t1Tza8/blib/arch /home/k/.cpan/build/Test-TAP-HTMLMatrix-0.08-t1Tza8/blib/lib /home/k/.cpan/build/Method-Alias-1.03-Xgby0k/blib/arch /home/k/.cpan/build/Method-Alias-1.03-Xgby0k/blib/lib /home/k/.cpan/build/Best-0.11-T3AKJn/blib/arch /home/k/.cpan/build/Best-0.11-T3AKJn/blib/lib to PERL5LIB for 'test'
Running Build test
  Delayed until after prerequisites
Running test for module 'Test::TAP::Model'
Running make for N/NU/NUFFIN/Test-TAP-Model-0.09.tar.gz
Prepending /home/k/.cpan/build/Test-TAP-HTMLMatrix-0.08-t1Tza8/blib/arch /home/k/.cpan/build/Test-TAP-HTMLMatrix-0.08-t1Tza8/blib/lib /home/k/.cpan/build/Method-Alias-1.03-Xgby0k/blib/arch /home/k/.cpan/build/Method-Alias-1.03-Xgby0k/blib/lib /home/k/.cpan/build/Best-0.11-T3AKJn/blib/arch /home/k/.cpan/build/Best-0.11-T3AKJn/blib/lib to PERL5LIB for 'get'
Signature for /home/ftp/pub/CPAN/authors/id/N/NU/NUFFIN/CHECKSUMS ok
Checksum for /home/ftp/pub/CPAN/authors/id/N/NU/NUFFIN/Test-TAP-Model-0.09.tar.gz ok


2007-04-15  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Todo: write a script that finds the distros in my local installation
	that have no reports on cpantesters yet. I suppose YACSmoke could do
	that.

	* Close to 700 now:

	"Found 1238 old builds, restored the state of 691"

2007-04-14  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Offtopic: Marc's patch for pack 'C' applied on top of 30952. Path:
	installed-perls/perl/pFvwf7I/perl-5.8.0@30952

	* Coro: in the logfile for 30943 I see that Coro did not build and did
	not install Coro::Event. Consequently, Continuity failed its tests. What
	might be the reason? On later retry, Coro built and installed both Coro
	and Coro::Event. Seeing the prereqs NOW, they contain

                                                  'AnyEvent' => '2.51',
                                                  'Event' => '1.06',
                                                  'IO::AIO' => '2.3',
                                                  'Scalar::Util' => '0'

	And here is the relevant output of Marc's Makefile.PL:

Warning: prerequisite AnyEvent 2.51 not found.
Warning: prerequisite Event 1.06 not found.
Warning: prerequisite IO::AIO 2.3 not found.

*** Event not found, not build Event support.

	This seems like a bug to me. He should ask if Event support is wanted
	and if yes, make Event a prerequisite. At least from my point of view he
	should do so.

	It has already lead to a wrong bugreport by chris on cpantesters.

	And I have now written to Marc (with CC cpantesters) if he would change
	things accordingly). Miscommunication happened and so I need to give up:-(

	* Locale::TextDomain needs a binary search. Yay, the first one for a
	long time that goes back before 20000. We are compiling perls in the
	[16904,17122] interval! Ouch: 16916, 16951, 16953, 16991, 17022, 17058,
	17075 do not want to be compiled!

	This needs more attention. Yes, it's DB_File that fails nowadays with
	these old perls. And we always used -Ui_db. For binsearchaperl the full
	argument then is

	--config="-Dinstallusrbinperl=n -Uversiononly -Doptimize=-g -des -Duse64bitint -Dusedevel -Ui_db"

----Program----
eval {require Locale::TextDomain};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../pm3UiPL/perl-5.7.3@16904/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../pN2DxS9/perl-5.7.3@16905/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----

	Change 16905 by jhi@alpha on 2002/05/30 20:26:32

	Subject: [PATCH perl@16893] lib/blib.t tweak for VMS
	From: "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@mac.com>
	Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 16:22:40 -0500
	Message-Id: <a05111703b91c44a6865f@[172.16.52.1]>

	Impossible. This patches a test file in core perl, this cannot have
	consequences on user code.

	So it's likely to depend on a module.

	diff -u =(sort /home/k/.cpan/Bundle/Snapshot_2007_04_14_00.pm) =(sort /home/k/.cpan/Bundle/Snapshot_2007_04_14_01.pm) | less


	Nothing obvious. So let's study the test itself.

	It's about how the Austrians say to the month February. Why on earth is
	16904 able to dig that word "Feber" out of the locale system but 16905
	not? The files that contain "Feber" are specifically being delivered by
	Locale::TextDomain, so seem not dependent on my Linux version or the
	state of my locale installations.

	https://rt.cpan.org/Dist/Display.html?Queue=libintl-perl  is empty.

	So if I cannot find a negative module dependency, it's something in
	perl?

	Wow: my 16904 was compiled on Gentoo! But comparing the configs does not
	reveal anything yet.

	Maybe it helps to run the same program in two debuggers step by step?

	One day has passed and when I retry today in a fresh directory, then
	both 16904 and 16905 succeed on this test while 30952 fails. Heisenbug?

	I'll start with a new binary search. Apparently I did something wrong
	yesterday. I realize comments in the test output that escaped me
	yesterday. The new test script filters those comments out
	(t04find_domain_bug.t).

	With this I'm told that 29052 succeeds but 29053 fails with an Assertion
	failure. I rerun with new boundary and now the assertion failure did not
	go away up to 29543 and 29544 was then failing on the
	04find_domain_bug.t.

	So this seems more logical and proves yesterday's recherche was bogus,
	most probably not a Heisenbug.

	Update 2007-05-05 akoenig: Locale::TextDomain succeeded @31148!
	
2007-04-13  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Devel::ebug again. failed with 30943 but on retry success. The logfile
	reports

t/return.........YAML Error: Invalid characters in stream. This parser only supports printable ASCII
   Code: YAML_PARSE_ERR_BAD_CHARS
   Line: 0
   Document: 0
 at /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pCufuHQ/perl-5.8.0@30943/lib/site_perl/5.9.5/YAML.pm line 33
# Looks like your test died before it could output anything.
dubious
	Test returned status 255 (wstat 65280, 0xff00)
DIED. FAILED tests 1-13
	Failed 13/13 tests, 0.00% okay
	[...]
t/return.t   255 65280    13   26  1-13

	Remember that "20070330T2346 perl 30791" already had a problem. But it
	was not in the same test. It was

t/break_point....YAML Error: Invalid characters in stream. This parser only supports printable ASCII
   Code: YAML_PARSE_ERR_BAD_CHARS
   Line: 0
   Document: 0
 at /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/p6oBwLf/perl-5.8.0@30791/lib/site_perl/5.9.5/YAML.pm line 33
# Looks like you planned 27 tests but only ran 15.
# Looks like your test died just after 15.
dubious
	Test returned status 255 (wstat 65280, 0xff00)
DIED. FAILED tests 16-27
	Failed 12/27 tests, 55.56% okay


	Eeek.

	* 30941 is a suspicious patch file. It mixes perl and maint-5.8 branches
	in one patch and contains an "edit" without a diff following. As a
	consequence I get a "maint" and a "perl" versions of 30941 which seems
	pretty uniq afair. Need to further investigate.

	* Hatena::Keyword seems to need a binary search: maint@30874 is "OK",
	blead isn't. But the search cannot start with 20002 because prereq Jcode
	fails there. Need to add Cache::File to the prep script because it is an
	undecl prereq (already reported as
	https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=23684). blead@23963 is fine
	with Jcode and H:K. The error message hints at LWP::Protocol. We should
	verify that this is not a "dependent" failure.

----Program----
eval q{use Hatena::Keyword 0.04};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../pZ7WhmN/perl-5.8.0@23963/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../p35sQ2r/perl-5.8.0@23964/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----

	But take care, this 23964 failed on all of 00-load, 01-methods and
	02-caching.t (every time with "Can't locate RPC/XML.pm"). So this binary
	search was worthless. I think we must now find out when XML::RPC started
	working again. Please do not confuse XML::RPC and RCP::XML! But it's
	strange anyway because both modules run and install well under 23964.
	Now, when I retry the very first binarysearch, it says both 23983 and
	30943 fail. Cool. So we need 23964 against 23983? Yes, on retry, 23964
	succeeds and 23983 fails. And the new binary point of balance is
	2396[45]! When I now apply this balance point against 99999 via
	RPC::XML, then ***lots*** of compiling, testing, and installing is being
	done. And we "jump" to what? 29099/29100, such a wide jump! But it has
	to do with LWP that RPC::XML does not even build. Apparently is LWP an
	undeclared configure_requires (which is not even implemented yet). When
	I add LWP to the prep-RPC-XML.pl script? Then both 23965 and 30943 work
	and there is no binary search. But if I now add both LWP and RPC::XML,
	in that order, to the prep-Hatena-Keyword.pl? 23965 succeeds and 30943
	fails and binary search starts. When we reach [24003,24023] it needs to
	build perls.

----Program----
eval q{use Hatena::Keyword 0.04};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../pQ3Kc3b/perl-5.8.0@24009/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../puKzj8b/perl-5.8.0@24010/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----


	Change 24010 by rgs@bloom on 2005/03/08 17:53:50

	Subject: Encoding neutral unpack
	From: perl5-porters@ton.iguana.be (Ton Hospel)
	Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2005 18:29:38 +0000 (UTC)
	Message-Id: <d0fi6i$k06$1@post.home.lunix>

t/01-methods......1..25
[...]
ok 23
Content-Length header value was wrong, fixed at /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/puKzj8b/perl-5.8.0@24010/lib/site_perl/5.9.2/LWP/Protocol/http.pm line 189, <DATA> line 855.

#   Failed test at t/01-methods.t line 49.
# Looks like you failed 1 test of 25.
ok 24
not ok 25
dubious
        Test returned status 1 (wstat 256, 0x100)
DIED. FAILED test 25
        Failed 1/25 tests, 96.00% okay


	When I run this test in the debugger with 24010 (first remove the -T on
	the shebang), many tests fail.	


2007-04-11  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Nick denies 30900's responsibility. Something else must be it because
	he sees the crazy loop going back to 30000. So I must gather facts now.
	Questions?

	MIME-tools is a distribution, not a module. Which module represents
	MIME-tools? -- MIME::Body
	
	Which perls between 30000 and 30900 have MIME::Body installed? -- 30383,
	30384, 30388, 30391, 30392, 30393, 30394, 30399, 30402, 30405, 30408,
	30413, 30414, 30415, 30418, 30419, 30420, 30884, 30888, 30898

	Which logfiles have been written for those versions? --
	30383=>20070223T2127, 30384=>20070224T1000, 30388=>20070224T1500,
	30391=>20070224T1957, 30392=>20070225T0045, 30393=>20070225T0524,
	30394=>20070225T1622, 30399=>20070225T2121, 30402=>20070226T0344,
	30405=>20070226T0904, 30408=>20070226T1412, 30413=>20070226T1902,
	30414=>20070227T0414, 30415=>20070227T1355, 30418=>20070227T1856,
	30419=>20070227T2342, 30420=>20070228T0417, 30884=>20070410T1050,
	30888=>20070410T1614, 30898=>20070410T2143

	The large gap after 30420 jumps into my eyes. What was the next logfile
	after that? And for which patch? -- 20070228T1244 for 30428

	And the last before 30844? -- 20070409T1809 for 30875

	Did the tests in the succeeding runs really succeed on Entity.t or did
	they probably skip it? -- All of above cited successful tests were
	reported as "....ok" for Entity.t. All others complained "Can't locate
	Mail/Internet.pm in @INC". I should point out that I had banned
	Mail::Internet from being installed most of the time.

	So which versions of MIME::Body and Mail::Internet did gain the cited
	successes above? -- MIME::Body was always 5.42. For Mail::Internet it
	was from 30383 up to 30420 the module version 1.74 and from 30884 up to
	30898 it was 1.76.

	Would you mind installing Mail::Internet and MIME::Body for 30428 and
	report? -- For Mail::Internet CPAN.pm chose MARKOV/MailTools-1.76.tar.gz
	to install and it succeeded. For MIME::Body it chose
	DSKOLL/MIME-tools-5.420.tar.gz and it succeeded.

	Would you do the same for 30875? -- I did with the same result.

	* Algorithm::Partition comes with a test "99-kwalitee".

use Test::More;

eval { require Test::Kwalitee; Test::Kwalitee->import };

plan( skip_all => 'Test::Kwalitee not installed; skipping' ) if $@;

	Ha, what a gem I haven't noticed yet!

	* Mail::Send has a new release and I just used it to report its own test
	with 30898 and another one for Continuity. We'll have to check for
	success later. -- No success.

	* make test on DSKOLL/MIME-tools-5.420.tar.gz goes into a fast endless
	loop today with blead@30900. We have already 30902 but it seems
	unrelated.

t/Entity............Use of uninitialized value within %INC in pattern match (m//
) at /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/p7R8oCc/perl-5.8.0@30900/lib/
site_perl/5.9.5/Mail/Field.pm line 114.
Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /home/src/perl/repo
perls/installed-perls/perl/p7R8oCc/perl-5.8.0@30900/lib/site_perl/5.9.5/Mail/Fie
ld.pm line 114.
closedir() attempted on invalid dirhandle DIR at /home/src/perl/repoperls/instal
led-perls/perl/p7R8oCc/perl-5.8.0@30900/lib/site_perl/5.9.5/Mail/Field.pm line 9
1.
Warning: Use of "require" without parentheses is ambiguous at (eval 482) line 1.
Warning: Use of "require" without parentheses is ambiguous at (eval 483) line 1.
Warning: Use of "require" without parentheses is ambiguous at (eval 484) line 1.
Warning: Use of "require" without parentheses is ambiguous at (eval 485) line 1.
Warning: Use of "require" without parentheses is ambiguous at (eval 486) line 1.
[...]
closedir() attempted on invalid dirhandle DIR at /home/src/perl/repoperls/instal
led-perls/perl/p7R8oCc/perl-5.8.0@30900/lib/site_perl/5.9.5/Mail/Field.pm line 9
1.
[...]
closedir() attempted on invalid dirhandle DIR at /home/src/perl/repoperls/instal
led-perls/perl/p7R8oCc/perl-5.8.0@30900/lib/site_perl/5.9.5/Mail/Field.pm line 9
1.
closedir() attempted on invalid dirhandle DIR at /home/src/perl/repoperls/instal
led-perls/perl/p7R8oCc/perl-5.8.0@30900/lib/site_perl/5.9.5/Mail/Field.pm line 9
1.
closedir() attempted on invalid dirhandle DIR at /home/src/perl/repoperls/instal
led-perls/perl/p7R8oCc/perl-5.8.0@30900/lib/site_perl/5.9.5/Mail/Field.pm line 9
1.
Warning: Use of "require" without parentheses is ambiguous at (eval 740) line 1.
Bareword found where operator expected at (eval 740) line 1, near "200::lvchange
"
        (Missing operator before ::lvchange?)
Warning: Use of "require" without parentheses is ambiguous at (eval 741) line 1.
Bareword found where operator expected at (eval 741) line 1, near "200::lvm"
        (Missing operator before ::lvm?)
Warning: Use of "require" without parentheses is ambiguous at (eval 742) line 1.
Bareword found where operator expected at (eval 742) line 1, near "200::vgcfgres
tore"
        (Missing operator before ::vgcfgrestore?)
Warning: Use of "require" without parentheses is ambiguous at (eval 743) line 1.
Bareword found where operator expected at (eval 743) line 1, near "200::lvcreate
"
        (Missing operator before ::lvcreate?)
[...about 6 million lines of "closedir attempted" and "require without parentheses"...]
Warning: Use of "require" without parentheses is ambiguous at (eval 5936852) line 1.
Warning: Use of "require" without parentheses is ambiguous at (eval 5936853) line 1.
Warning: Use of "require" without parentheses is ambiguous at (eval 5936854) line 1.
Warning: Use of "require" without parentheses is ambiguous at (eval 5936855) line 1.
Warning: Use of "require" without parentheses is ambiguous at (eval 5936856) line 1.
Warning: Use of "require" without parentheses is ambiguous at (eval 5936857) line 1.
Warning: Use of "require" without parentheses is ambiguous at (eval 5936858) line 1.

	The last perl before 30900 was 30898 which installed MIME-tools just
	fine.

	I built an autobundle snapshot from 30900 and another from 30898. Of
	course the latter is much bigger because it was not stopped by an
	endless loop. So the diff is unbalanced.

	Snapshot_2007_04_11_0[01].pm

	The only version difference is in Tk::Tree, impossible that it has an
	influence.


2007-04-10  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* t/op/pat....................................................FAILED at test 1658

	this is with bleadperl @ 30881

2007-04-09  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Need tests for dot distros and scripts. megainstall tests both but is
	too slow and we had no dot distro running on MB.

2007-04-08  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Bug: my first trial (after the release of 1.90) to use "cpan ." with
	class-mop failed. It did not try the Build.PL but compleined about the
	inexistent Makefile.PL. Trying again with full path gave the same ugly
	result:

Running make for /home/src/perl/class-mop/SVN/.
Prepending /home/k/.cpan/build/Test-Without-Module-0.09-4HOjGl/blib/arch /home/k/.cpan/build/Test-Without-Module-0.09-4HOjGl/blib/lib to PERL5LIB for 'get'
  Has already been unwrapped into directory /home/src/perl/class-mop/SVN/.
Prepending /home/k/.cpan/build/Test-Without-Module-0.09-4HOjGl/blib/arch /home/k/.cpan/build/Test-Without-Module-0.09-4HOjGl/blib/lib to PERL5LIB for 'make'

  CPAN.pm: Going to build /home/src/perl/class-mop/SVN/.

Can't open perl script "Makefile.PL": No such file or directory
Warning: No success on command[/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pqoGi7b/perl-5.8.0@30869/bin/perl Makefile.PL]
Directory '/home/src/perl/class-mop/SVN/.' not below /home/k/.cpan/build, will not store persistent state
Prepending /home/k/.cpan/build/Test-Without-Module-0.09-4HOjGl/blib/arch /home/k/.cpan/build/Test-Without-Module-0.09-4HOjGl/blib/lib to PERL5LIB for 'test'
Running make test
  Make had some problems, won't test
CPAN: Module::Build loaded ok (v0.2807)
Failed during this command:
 /home/src/perl/class-mop/SVN/.               : writemakefile NO '/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pqoGi7b/perl-5.8.0@30869/bin/perl Makefile.PL' returned status 512

	First culprit is the 'return 1;' in line 5730.... FIXED in SVK rev. 2187
	or so.

	* Nice to have: serialization needs to be able to deal with JSON et.al.
	too.

	* LWP::UserAgent usage is not centralized, several spots of copy&paste.

2007-04-07  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Nice to have: an overview over the neuralgic patches up to 5.10 that
	broke XS modules with both links to patches, versions of the modules
	before and after the fix, error messages, etc. This would help people
	who have a broken XS module to find the quickest fix.

	* Bug: we scan the cache for sizes, then sort by date, then delete. We
	should first sort by date, then scan for sizes, then start to remove
	without scanning as soon as we know we are above the limit.

	* Maybe add a depends keyword to distroprefs because the number of
	missing dependency declarations in modules does not decrease despite all
	the bug reports we have sent out.

	* As soon as we support bz2 we must have an implicit dependency on
	packages Compress::Bzip2 whenever we want to untar such a thing.

	* For the Todo from David Golden: On installation of a distribution,
	check %INC for modules in that distribution. If found, warn the user and
	suggest that they call "reload cpan" at the prompt.

	Very good idea. But I had to answer:

But it will need some refinement because the
'reload cpan' command only checks for a static list of modules. It's
in my Todo file now and will be dealt with after 1.90.

	Maybe we just reload whatever we have loaded at the moment? Dangerous?
	How to render the process that is now already quite loud?

	* HTML::CalendarMonth is failing but the error output is really large. I
	just tried to report() it and must check later if the mail actually
	arrived. --- It seems this report never arrives.

	* Todo(???): introduce --notest and --force, etc. I'm not fond of it but
	Slaven has observed that two users expected it would work that way.

	* off topic: replace "falling" with "decreasing" where appropriate

	* off topic: Richard's talk about debugger brings me the idea to patch
	it to support saving of terminal history. I started implementing it and
	then lost track of my changes. Now in k75:/home/src/perl/perl5db/

	Patch sent in but Richard would like to get the default behaviour being
	to write the histfile.

	* bring the FirstTime dialogs into POD and back

	* somebody reports that RT does recursion. But what is the driving
	module for RT? RSPIER/Bundle-RT-0.030601.tar.gz ? No, this will only
	tell CPAN to install "most of RT's dependent modules". Not RT itself.
	--> this needs a bugreport.

	* wishlist Mark Overmeer: less output

	* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daJ1Hs_y738 screencast hint from
	Juergen Christoffel

	* http://rt.cpan.org//Ticket/Display.html?id=25223

	contact brian

	* offtopic: Perl::Repository::APC needs a doc patch that it doesn't work
	on case insensitive file systems.

	* Todo: write one of the CircDepe distros new to include version
	number(s) in prerequisites, especially undef.

	* Bug report/feature request from David Cantrell via David Golden:
	report shall only report on what-I-say, but not on the prerequisites.

	I have answered and I am not yet sure I want to go down that route.

	This muddies the waters. If we only report on things on the commandline,
	we can probably not get 'report Bundle::Spd' or 'Bundle::CPANxxl' to
	work properly? Well, maybe we can. We just have to try. And when? Before
	the release?

	I'd also need input from David because I could easily break his
	intentions.

	* Musing: when we some day optimize for the best CPAN mirror we shall
	learn from bittorrent and consider that the index file problem is
	separated from the rest of CPAN. And that we can fetch older files from
	everywhere but younger files only from hosts being fresh enough.

	* Next biggies: mod_perl, Subversion

	* Feature request by self: The bad performance of YAML.pm seems to be a
	showstopper. YAML.pm needs to be banned or disabling of YAML operations
	should be possible, don't know exactly how.

	* IAMCAL/XML-Parser-Lite-Tree-0.03.tar.gz fails when called early,
	succeeds when called late?

	Yes, this is the case. Because X:P:L:T depend on XML::Parser::Lite.
	PAUSE has indexed BYRNE/SOAP/SOAP-Lite-0.60a.tar.gz for that, but I have
	disabled the installation of this distro, so we fail quickly with a
	missing dependency.

	But during megainstall somebody installs X:P:L 0.65_3 and solves the
	problem for X:P:L:T. So who is it? With locate I find this:

	% ls -l /home/ftp/pub/PAUSE/authors/id/H/HE/HEX/XML-Parser-Lite-0.66.tar.gz
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 4388 Jan 31 13:53 /home/ftp/pub/PAUSE/authors/id/H/HE/HEX/XML-Parser-Lite-0.66.tar.gz

	But when going through the logfile, I find that SOAP-Lite-0.69 has
	installed it. Is my logfile the only one who knows who installed what?
	What a sad story. It's getting even worse when we realize that nobody
	discovers who overwrote which previous version!

	I must ask HEX if this is all as intended. DONE.

	We should also institutionalize a place where FAILED reports of the
	PAUSE indexer are directed to. We receive 3 every day and nobody cares
	about them, not even the authors.

	I also need to understand how I can speed up Gnus on large, rarely
	visited mailboxes. It is extremely slow on my pause mailbox and I cannot
	simply catchup on that as I do with the lookslikespam mailbox.

	And how do I deal with the X:P:L:T dependency in exactly this situation?
	It's not a goto. We need to patch up the dependency: instead of X:P:L it
	would have to be BYRNE/SOAP-Lite-0.69.tar.gz for now. But this would
	have to be removed as soon as HEX gets the index entry. Well, I think we
	have to pass on this one. Pity.

	And we have a similar issue with Flickr::API which also depends on
	XML::Parser::Lite::Tree (but which still fails tests, even if we resolve
	the X:P:L dependency).

	I think it's best described as a pseudo dependency. It depends on a
	thing that is contained in another but this other thing hides this (with
	the underscore in the version number).

	As was the case before we had distroprefs, externally known dependencies
	are best handled by bundle files. My "bundle file" here is the
	MEGA_INSTALL macro in my Makefile.PL. I simply add SOAP::Lite _before_
	Plagger.

	* Feature request by self: "o conf init ~"

	Should only try to talk about uninitialized or undefined config
	variables. (?)

	Tried it and it was much more work than expected, giving up. For a
	future reference, see the lines around C< $matcher eq "~" > in
	FirstTime.pm

	* TTL stuff

	* retry to run under Devel::Cover and actually read the results.

	* Feature: make the FTPstats max counter settable.

	* make _get_urllist a public method for Randy.

	* Write manpage for CPAN::HandleConfig, esp load().

	* I realize that CPAN::FTP::localize is undocumented and is what Randy
	wants.

	* Integrate hosts into $META like authors, distributions, and modules?
	If we're cautious, this might turn into an automatic optimization.

	If Coro does index downloads for us, we do not have to fear slow
	connections and can gather better data.

	* Guessing of -p0/-p1 for patch maybe wrong if the patch tries to create
	a new file against, say, /dev/null.

	* Would be nice: integrate the config variable name into the init
	dialogs such that one has a chance to learn their names over time.

	* Would be nice: 'o conf /check/' to list all variables matching a regex.

	* Todo: offer the choice between (readline) Gnu and Perl and Coro. See
	my trials in the bin/ directory (SVN only). Possibly this is done via
	envariables? Then we only should document it.

	* Mail::Send problem persists that Test::Reporter's mails do not arrive
	when sent with Mail::Send but do when sent with Net::SMTP (IIRC). In any
	case I must disable installation of Mail::Send somehow or debug.
	Test::Reporter has got a wish item via RT already some weeks ago.

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=13836

	http://code.google.com/p/test-reporter/

	* if we make the TTLs setable, maybe we should make the TTL for
	CHECKSUMS file too. In any case we have the problem of imacat also when
	the TTL of the local copy of the CHECKSUMS file has not yet been
	reached!

	* Coro. See also notes below, search for anyevent	

	* The first thing that I encounter when I start testing instead of
	installing things is that test doesn't stop when the installed version
	is higher than or equal to the CPAN version. Ilya invented for that
	test_uptodate??

	* replace 03 index file with YAML.

	* Looks like a bug to me what I find in Bundle-SZABGAB-0.01.yml:
	CONTAINSMODS is empty because Gabor has a distro in the bundle.

	* Todo: clean up "XXX" in the code

	* M2 (Wishlist) separate the TTLs for 01,02,03. If somebody asks 'a
	FOO', we should only check for the authors database, etc.

	* E1 Todo: use 00whois.xml instead of mailrc, and follow the UTF-8 HOWTO to
	get rid of the term_is_latin variable. Test output with locales.

	* H4 branch 1.87-dbmdeep-hackery revive? It was very broken but I do not
	remember details. Hint: DBM::Deep promises significant memory savings
	and in that branch we tried to see how it can be made to work for us.

	* M3 RT 17353: Flag outdated CPAN sites and move them to the end of the
	list when they have reached 291 hours. (Note: $CPAN/authors/02STAMP)

	* E1: revisit rev 158:159, the introduction of "recent" and "perldoc".
	#21791 has its bugreport. I don't like that most of the subroutines are
	thrown into CPAN::Distribution either. OTOH, we have commands that have
	no central role within CPAN. One can always refuse to use them. Hrm.
	HTML::Display!

	* E5: (again and again) verify that the CPAN.pm-using modules continue
	to work:

	DMUEY/AltaVista-BabelFish
	MSCHILLI/CPAN-Unwind
	ULPFR/CPAN-WAIT
	RJRAY/Devel-Modlist
	SMUELLER/PAR-Dist-FromCPAN
	DAGOLDEN/Perl-Dist
	CRAKRJACK/Test-CPANpm

	DONE (added most of them to MEGA_INSTALL)

	* E5 watch RT for open tickets. This todo can never be closed.

	* E1 Todo: continue to close the Pod::Coverage gap. Currently only
	CPAN.pm is covered

	* E3 Todo: write a test for dot-cpan/Metadata usage. Hmmm. Important for
	the future of locking, the future of DBM::Deep, protocol changes. Not
	sure what to test.

	* M3 Todo: investigate what BUGHUNTING in Tarzip means "today": it's
	about a very old bug in Archive::Tar that is most probably fixed. Turn
	bughunting on with the command C< !print$CPAN::Tarzip::BUGHUNTING=1 >.
	It is slow but everything should just plain work. When we're confident
	that everything works, we could offer a tar_policy option that has
	options "ext" and "mod", for external programs vs. modules, default to
	"ext"?

	* M3 Reopened Bug: it seems that a user who is in /bin and has "." in
	the beginning of the path gets ./sh as his shell from FirstTime. If we
	encounter . in the path we should rather ignore it. But first we must
	verify the behaviour. Reported by Slaven Rezic on behalf of Tino
	Schulze. This has nothing to do with -I. but only with the shell and
	$ENV{PATH} and as we do not know which shell it was it seems we cannot
	test for the problem.

	* H1 These days developer TELS posted to perl5-porters that his newest
	release is available at

	    http://bloodgate.com/perl/packages/devel/Math-BigInt-1.78.tar.gz

	Suddenly it dawned on me that I want to support

	    install http://bloodgate.com/perl/packages/devel/Math-BigInt-1.78.tar.gz

	What am I missing?

	The other commands dealing with files would have to learn a bit.

	d http://      # fails as before with "No objects of...."

	               # alt: does a HEAD and tells user that the URL can e reached

	ls http://     # lists nothing

	               # alt: says that ls doesn't support URLs

	get http://    # this is probably all we need to implement. Maybe a new
	               # class needed that does as_string and as_glimpse as well?

	And maybe a pragma that turns this feature on? So that 'get http://...'
	never works but 'force get http://...' does? Alt: config variable to
	turn feature on, then a separate module that implements it.

	Brian likes the idea

From: brian d foy <brian.d.foy@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Welcome new user LOCAL
To: modules@perl.org
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 14:52:48 -0500
Organization: Perl Authors Upload Server
Reply-To: modules@perl.org

In article <877j0361hl.fsf@k75.linux.bogus>, (Andreas J. Koenig)
<andreas.koenig.gmwojprw@franz.ak.mind.de> wrote:

> My spontaneous idea was to support the command
> 
>     cpan> get http://bloodgate.com/perl/packages/devel/Math-BigInt-1.78.tar.gz

oh, very interesting, especially if I already have the file:

   cpan> get file:///....

This makes CPAN::Mini::Inject a bit less useful because I no longer
need the middle man.

	* Make the "new -> ." symlink in scripts/ as outlined in a mail to kurt
	and jarkko

	* M2 feature request by Juergen Christoffel: have time stamps on the
	history and a history command to see them

	* hr ================ no todos below this line ================ /hr

	* hr ================ no todos below this line ================ /hr

	* hr ================ no todos below this line ================ /hr

2007-04-06  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* looping in installation: Dist-DCC
	(DMAKI/DateTime-Calendar-Chinese-0.05.tar.gz) install() calls test which
	calls make. This encounters 4 prereq (DES, DEC, DUAM, DUAC). The first
	two of those have already failed tests but we continue anyway. The other
	two are re-queued, the "later" flag on D is set. So we leave
	make/test/install early due to the later flag. As soon as we hav left
	the first position of the queue, the later flag is cleared. DUAM quickly
	decides that it is already installed. DUAC ditto. Dist-DCC is now again
	the first on the queue. It calls install/test/make again. Look, the
	later flag is cleared already, so nothing prevents us from looping
	through.

	So the bug seems to be that we rely on the module installation of DUAM
	and DUAC to recognisably either fail or succeed. But DUAM and DUAC seem
	to be not installed and installed at the same time. The Moon.pm and
	Common.pm files are found, their versions are considered "undef". But
	the distro they are in, Dist-DUA-0.08 considers itself already
	installed. What has happened to it? Indeed I can see that Dist-DUA-0.08
	has been installed. Why do we not recognize their installed version?

    $VERSION = $DateTime::Util::Astro::VERSION;

	So this is the root cause. The PAUSE indexer somehow determined 0.04
	being the version. One bug must have happened over there. But we should
	not run into a loop just because of this.

	Until recently we broke out of this loop because we set and consulted
	is_tested. But this left us in the is_tested state leading to the
	"Prepending" bug.

	As we now (correctly) reserved the is_tested/is_installed stuff
	exclusively for the task of prepending to PERL5LIB, we now need
	something similar for finer control over prereq menagement than "later"
	and undelay provide.

	I do not want to use "later" for this because it already does something
	OK and needs a short lifespan. (For the record: leave test and install
	early when we discover that we have to deal with prereqs first).

	But now the first thing I need is a recipe how to reproduce the loop
	bug: new bleadperl + Bundle::CPANxxl. install
	DMAKI/DateTime-Calendar-Chinese-0.05.tar.gz triggers many installs and
	soon fails nicely with

  DMAKI/DateTime-Calendar-Chinese-0.05.tar.gz
  ./Build test -- NOT OK
Running Build install
  make test had returned bad status, won't install without force
Failed during this command:
 DMAKI/DateTime-Util-Astro-0.08.tar.gz        : make_test NO
 DMAKI/DateTime-Util-Astro-0.09.tar.gz        : make_test NO
 DMAKI/DateTime-Event-Lunar-0.05.tar.gz       : make_test NO
 DMAKI/DateTime-Event-SolarTerm-0.04.tar.gz   : make_test NO
 DMAKI/DateTime-Event-Chinese-0.04.tar.gz     : make_test NO
 DMAKI/DateTime-Calendar-Chinese-0.05.tar.gz  : make_test NO

	So mayby with the advent of DMAKI/DateTime-Util-Astro-0.09.tar.gz the
	loop is gone? Looking into the distro I find the 

	$VERSION = $DateTime::Util::Astro::VERSION;

	dictum in all files, so the saga continues. Maybe I can reproduce the
	bug if I disable 0.09? No. If instead I "goto(0.08)" and turn
	build_dir_reuse off? No. If I manually set the $VERSION of DUAC and DUAM
	to undef? No.

	My current blead@30849 can reproduce the bug. Backup. On that perl
	installation it is enough to

	  install DMAKI/DateTime-Calendar-Chinese-0.05.tar.gz

	to enter the loop. The solution is the sponsored_modules attribute which
	is already used to prevent re-testing within one command. So now we
	prevent re-installing too.

2007-04-04  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* with yesterday's fix DMAKI/DateTime-Util-Astro-0.08.tar.gz runs into
	an endless installation loop:-(

2007-04-03  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Prepending /home/k/.cpan/build/Text-Autoformat-1.13-tM9mak/blib/arch /home/k/.cpan/build/Text-Autoformat-1.13-tM9mak/blib/lib /home/k/.cpan/build/DateTime-Util-Astro-0.08-YLAScV/blib/arch /home/k/.cpan/build/DateTime-Util-Astro-0.08-YLAScV/blib/lib to PERL5LIB for 'make'

	Now I got it. If for whatever reason we have another "test" after an
	"install", we enter is_tested again but do not leave it because install
	is "already done".

	What's the fix? Either do not enter again or always leave even when
	"already done". The former is not easy or even impossible because we
	never know that a distribution is already installed. We only know it for
	modules. So the second solution is the better.

	* CPANPLUS 0.78?

Recursive dependency detected:
    CPANPLUS (have: N/A; want: 0.78)
 => KANE/CPANPLUS-0.78.tar.gz
 => CPANPLUS::Shell::Default (have: N/A; requires: 0.0)
 => KANE/CPANPLUS-0.78.tar.gz.
Cannot resolve.

	Need to relax the dependency check for self?

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=26077

	* YAML::Tiny 1.04?

	Now that YAML::Syck is broken, YAML::Tiny tests also fail. It seems
	because they compare Syck with Tiny.

	* Try newer apache for mod_perl (Current is 1.3.37!)

	* Try out outline mode for Changes file

	* The "Prepending" bug: Prepending /home/k/.cpan/build/XML-LibXML-1.62-yZpjGO/blib/arch /home/k/.cpan/build/XML-LibXML-1.62-yZpjGO/blib/lib /home/k/.cpan/build/Apache-Session-1.82-idoFjK/blib/arch /home/k/.cpan/build/Apache-Session-1.82-idoFjK/blib/lib /home/k/.cpan/build/mod_perl-1.30-YPYnZK/blib/arch /home/k/.cpan/build/mod_perl-1.30-YPYnZK/blib/lib to PERL5LIB for 'test'

	This gathering is always around more or less of the same modules. And
	today (megainstall.20070403T0058.out) I did not run a parallel shell
	session, so the problem builds up from some other forces. It started
	with mod_perl, then Apache-Session joined the club and then XML::LibXML.

	YAY, mod_perl is a real problem: installation fails because the apache
	part wants to install its deputies into /usr/local where I have no
	permissions. Need to revisit the parameters I can influence.

	So next problem child is Apache-Session. I find no line in the output
	(yet?) that would explain the problem but a suspect it's simply due to
	the mod_perl dependency. Nope. Only declared prereqs are

    requires: 
      File::Temp: 0
      Test::Deep: 0.082
      Test::Exception: 0.15
      Test::More: 0.47

	???

2007-04-02  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Bug or what?

% make run
/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/p3VGl7t/perl-5.8.0@30827/bin/perl -Ilib -MCPAN -eshell
CPAN: Term::ANSIColor loaded ok (v1.11_01)
Terminal does not support AddHistory.

cpan shell -- CPAN exploration and modules installation (v1.90)
ReadLine support available (try 'install Bundle::CPAN')

cpan[1]> m HTTP::Body
CPAN: Storable loaded ok (v2.16)
Going to read /home/k/.cpan/Metadata
  Database was generated on Mon, 02 Apr 2007 05:09:49 GMT
CPAN: YAML::Syck loaded ok (v0.84)
Going to read /home/k/.cpan/build/
......................................................Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at lib/CPAN.pm line 657.
Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at lib/CPAN.pm line 657.
Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at lib/CPAN.pm line 657.
Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at lib/CPAN.pm line 657.
Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at lib/CPAN.pm line 657.
Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at lib/CPAN.pm line 657.
Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at lib/CPAN.pm line 657.
Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at lib/CPAN.pm line 657.
Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at lib/CPAN.pm line 657.
Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at lib/CPAN.pm line 657.
Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at lib/CPAN.pm line 657.
Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at lib/CPAN.pm line 657.
Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at lib/CPAN.pm line 657.
Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at lib/CPAN.pm line 657.
Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at lib/CPAN.pm line 657.
Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at lib/CPAN.pm line 657.
Catching error: 'Alert: While trying to  YAML file
  
with '' the following error was encountered:
  
' at lib/CPAN.pm line 274
        CPAN::shell() called at -e line 1

	Same for 30824. But when I repeat the 'm' command after that, it works.

	There must be a yaml file that breaks something. Needs further investigation.

	The broken YAML file is ~/.cpan/build/DBD-SQLite-1.13-Hqur1h.yml which
	fails at line 30/31:

 29   prefs:
 30     comment: '\nBecause the Makefile.PL depends on having DBI installed we w    ant to\nlet them build DBI and then rerun perl Makefile.PL and then make"\n\    nIt\'s a crazy example that I do not really like. I prefer resolving\nsuch a     thing with a build_requires or similar mechanism and see it\nas a Todo item     that such hacks are not needed in the future.\n'
 31     install: {}
 32 

	YAML::LoadFile isn't accepting this as valid YAML either. So who wrote
	it? It was written by YAML::Syck 0.84.

	https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=26057

2007-04-01  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* The HTTP::Body failing test is interesting. It's a loop over 11 cases
	with 5 tests on each. We get one "ok" and the next line in the code is
	an is_deeply() which consumes memory until exhausted.

	Replacing YAML with YAML::Syck resolves the problem. But running the
	program in the debugger with YAML also resolves it.

	https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=25927

	Also posted to P5P.

	* Much worse, I just discover that the last run of megainstall hangs and
	it is not obvious where.

	It has to do with Jifty and lsof says it has
	/home/k/.cpan/build/Jifty-0.70117-rnNlvG/t/Mapper as the CWD.

	The last lines in the output file are

		 Calling 'column' within a schema class is deprecated:

				package Jifty::Model::Session::Schema;
				column session_id => ...;        # NOT VALID

		 Please write this instead:

				package Jifty::Model::Session;
				use Jifty::DBI::Schema;
				use Jifty::Record schema {
						column session_id => ...;    # VALID
				};

		 Sorry for the inconvenience.

		*********************************************************
		 at /home/k/.cpan/build/Jifty-0.70117-rnNlvG/blib/lib/Jifty/Model/Session.pm line 20

		#   Failed test 'use Jifty::Test::WWW::Mechanize;'
		#   at t/Mapper/t/01-raw-api.t line 16.
		#     Tried to use 'Jifty::Test::WWW::Mechanize'.
		#     Error:  Base class package "Test::WWW::Mechanize" is empty.
		#     (Perhaps you need to 'use' the module which defines that package first.)
		#  at /home/k/.cpan/build/Jifty-0.70117-rnNlvG/blib/lib/Jifty/Test/WWW/Mechanize.pm line 5
		# BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at t/Mapper/t/01-raw-api.t line 16.
		# Compilation failed in require at (eval 1124) line 2.
		# BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at (eval 1124) line 2.
		Can't locate object method "new" via package "Jifty::Test::WWW::Mechanize" at t/Mapper/t/01-raw-api.t line 21.
		# Looks like you planned 32 tests but only ran 2.
		# Looks like you failed 1 test of 2 run.


	I kill the hanging test and hope to remember this problem next time
	around.

	And the major Todo here is to give an alert when such things happen.

	* Apache resurrected!

	But I see a bug or two:

cpan[5]> m mod_perl
Module id = mod_perl
    CPAN_USERID  GOZER (Philippe M. Chiasson <gozer@cpan.org>)
    CPAN_VERSION 1.30
    CPAN_FILE    G/GO/GOZER/mod_perl-1.30.tar.gz
    MANPAGE      mod_perl - Embed a Perl interpreter in the Apache HTTP server
    INST_FILE    /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pK4VYj9/perl-5.8.0@30806/lib/site_perl/5.9.5/i686-linux-64int/mod_perl.pm
    INST_VERSION 1.30


cpan[6]> m mod_perl
Module id = mod_perl
    CPAN_USERID  GOZER (Philippe M. Chiasson <gozer@cpan.org>)
    CPAN_VERSION 1.30
    CPAN_FILE    G/GO/GOZER/mod_perl-1.30.tar.gz
    MANPAGE      mod_perl - Embed a Perl interpreter in the Apache HTTP server
    INST_FILE    /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pK4VYj9/perl-5.8.0@30806/lib/site_perl/5.9.5/i686-linux-64int/mod_perl.pm
    INST_VERSION 1.30


cpan[7]> d GOZER/mod_perl-1.30.tar.gz
No objects of type Distribution found for argument GOZER/mod_perl-1.30.tar.gz


	Note that the last upload date does not appear.

	And when I scroll back I see a potentially third one:

Running make for D/DM/DMUEY/AltaVista-BabelFish-v42.0.2.tar.gz
Prepending /home/k/.cpan/build/mod_perl-1.30-gG7ERZ/blib/arch /home/k/.cpan/build/mod_perl-1.30-gG7ERZ/blib/lib to PERL5LIB for 'get'

	And later:

DEL(528.9>100.0MB): /home/k/.cpan/build/mod_perl-1.30-wAaavP 
DEL(257.3>100.0MB): /home/k/.cpan/build/mod_perl-1.30-gG7ERZ 

	These are now removed so are no good witnesses. Leaving the shell and
	re-entering?

cpan[2]> m mod_perl
Module id = mod_perl
    CPAN_USERID  GOZER (Philippe M. Chiasson <gozer@cpan.org>)
    CPAN_VERSION 1.30
    CPAN_FILE    G/GO/GOZER/mod_perl-1.30.tar.gz
    UPLOAD_DATE  2007-03-30
    MANPAGE      mod_perl - Embed a Perl interpreter in the Apache HTTP server
    INST_FILE    /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pK4VYj9/perl-5.8.0@30806/lib/site_perl/5.9.5/i686-linux-64int/mod_perl.pm
    INST_VERSION 1.30


cpan[3]> d GOZER/mod_perl-1.30.tar.gz      
Distribution id = G/GO/GOZER/mod_perl-1.30.tar.gz
    CPAN_USERID  GOZER (Philippe M. Chiasson <gozer@cpan.org>)
    CONTAINSMODS Apache Apache::Connection Apache::Constants Apache::Constants::Exports Apache::Debug Apache::ExtUtils Apache::FakeRequest Apache::File Apache::Include Apache::Leak Apache::Log Apache::ModuleConfig Apache::Opcode Apache::Options Apache::PerlRun Apache::PerlRunXS Apache::PerlSections Apache::RedirectLogFix Apache::Registry Apache::RegistryBB Apache::RegistryLoader Apache::RegistryNG Apache::Resource Apache::SIG Apache::Server Apache::SizeLimit Apache::StatINC Apache::Status Apache::Symbol Apache::Symdump Apache::Table Apache::URI Apache::Util Apache::fork Apache::httpd_conf Apache::src Apache::testold mod_perl
    UPLOAD_DATE  2007-03-30

	Interesting. This must be the same bug as described below for
	DMAKI/DateTime-Util-Astro-0.08.tar.gz et.al. Something gets installed
	properly, its state gets reanimated twice, and some data get lost during
	this step. Not sufficient to write a recipe how to reproduce.

2007-03-31  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Tcl-0.91

	When was Tcl updated last time?      2006-11-13

	When was Tcl added to megainstall?   SVK rev. 2016 on 2007-03-04

	When did Tcl start failing?          20070330T2346 (@30791)

	What is the failure saying?          t/call.........Tcl_InitNotifier: unable to ...
	                                     start notifier thread...dubious...and many ...
	                                     such messages

	Binary search says?                  First try against 30402 says that 30402 also fails

	Do we have a counter example?        20070305T0316 (@30463)

	What the latest counterexample?      megainstall.20070329T1818.out.term (@30777)

	cmp autobundle 30777/30791?          Snapshot_2007_03_31_0[01].pm too many differences.
	                                     I blame the extra tests I did for 30777

	cmp autobundle 30776/30806?          Snapshot_2007_04_01_0[01].pm also many differences.

	Are there google results on the
	error message "Tcl_InitNotifier:
	unable to start notifier thread"?    Plenty.

	I suppose my box upgrade on 0328 triggered some tcl breakage and I can
	ignore the issue from bleadperl's viewing angle.

	* Spreadsheet-ParseExcel-0.29

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=24693

	* Getopt ArgvFile 1.10

	No update since 2005. It seems to me the test now fails due to CPAN.pm's
	renaming of the root directories.

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=26001

	* AltaVista::BabelFish 42.0.1

	tests OK but CPAN.pm complains about an unfulfilled dependency,
	IO::Redirect. CPAN.pm does no know about IO::Redirect. Ticket in RT
	written.

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=26000

	* Net::Twitter 1.04

	testers has a pass, no fails. No bugreports in RT. It fails because
	JSON::Any fails. And JSON::Any fails because of a POD bug uncovered by
	Test::Pod or some such. Uh, oh!

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=25991

	* Devel::ebug 0.47

	Nothing blead related in RT. Tests ok with 30804. On retry installs
	successfully also with 30791. The error in the logfile is a YAML thing.

	NEEDS FURTHER WATCHING

	* Template::Timer 0.04, don't know where it comes from.

	It's been uploaded in 2005 and does profiling on TT. Catalyst-View-TT
	may have brought that in but who brought us that? Need to look into RT
	which is down at the moment. There is one bugreport about strange
	behaviour with 5.9.2 but no followup. Here it fails with 20002 too and
	with 16904.

	Cannot imagine what the problem is. Maybe som TT internal thing and
	older versions of Template did something differently.

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=26002

	* HTTP::Body 0.9 broken too.

	Ahh, this is the already reported YAML bug.

	* CPAN-SQLite from CVS broken too:

	20070326T0114 perl        30754
	20070326T0933 perl        30756
	20070326T1512 perl        30759
	20070326T2046 perl        30763 B
	20070327T0157 perl        30769 B
	20070327T0954 perl        30771 B
	20070327T1451 perl        30773 B
	20070327T2003 perl        30774 B
	20070328T1247 perl        30775 B
	20070329T0833 maint-5.8   30765
	20070329T1122 perl        30776 B
	20070330T0409 perl        30777 B
	20070330T2244 perl        30777 B
	20070330T2346 perl        30791 B

	A single 'make clean' helped and is now in the LOCAL distroprefs file.

	* Why is this in last night's megainstall (megainstall.20070330T2346.out):

  CPAN.pm: Going to build P/PE/PEVANS/Time-HiRes-Value-0.03.tar.gz

Checking whether your kit is complete...
Looks good

Checking prerequisites...
Looks good

Creating new 'Build' script for 'Time-HiRes-Value' version '0.03'
Copying lib/Time/HiRes/Value.pm -> blib/lib/Time/HiRes/Value.pm
Manifying blib/lib/Time/HiRes/Value.pm -> blib/libdoc/Time::HiRes::Value.3
  PEVANS/Time-HiRes-Value-0.03.tar.gz
  ./Build -- OK
  Prepending /home/k/.cpan/build/DateTime-Util-Astro-0.08-yKjgxA/blib/arch /home/k/.cpan/build/DateTime-Util-Astro-0.08-yKjgxA/blib/lib /home/k/.cpan/build/mod_perl-1.30-eynhXg/blib/arch /home/k/.cpan/build/mod_perl-1.30-eynhXg/blib/lib /home/k/.cpan/build/Bit-Vector-6.4-SYePdn/blib/arch /home/k/.cpan/build/Bit-Vector-6.4-SYePdn/blib/lib /home/k/.cpan/build/Text-Autoformat-1.13-w2ad5G/blib/arch /home/k/.cpan/build/Text-Autoformat-1.13-w2ad5G/blib/lib to PERL5LIB for 'test'

	It seems to indicate that some modules were built and tested
	successfully and await installation. But why did they not get installed?

	I can see elsewhere in the logfile:

  DMAKI/DateTime-Util-Astro-0.08.tar.gz
  make install UNINST=1 -- OK

  STBEY/Bit-Vector-6.4.tar.gz
  make install UNINST=1 -- OK

  DCONWAY/Text-Autoformat-1.13.tar.gz
  make install UNINST=1 -- OK

	So apparently three times the unsetting of the is_tested flag did not
	work. Do we have a new bug in perl or is it our own bug?

	Going back to February 22, I see the same thing for
	DateTime-Util-Astro-0.08-BsMTev XML-LibXML-1.62-Zi4hvt
	Apache-Session-1.82-3jaGeJ Bit-Vector-6.4-nHiJ0u

	This was less noisy in January, started in February, so I suppose our
	own bug:(

2007-03-30  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Perlbal fails all over since we have it in megainstall at
	20070323T0231.

	Why are there some logfiles without a broken Perlbal?

	B for broken:

	B 20070323T0231 perl        30700
	  20070323T0727 maint-5.8   30701 gpg failure? terminated?
	B 20070323T1315 perl        30714
	B 20070323T1935 perl        30726
	B 20070323T2327 maint-5.8   30723
	B 20070324T0326 perl        30740
	B 20070324T1335 maint-5.8   30743
	B 20070324T1813 perl        30745
	B 20070325T0041 perl        30750
	B 20070326T0114 perl        30754
	B 20070326T0933 perl        30756
	B 20070326T1512 perl        30759
	B 20070326T2046 perl        30763
	B 20070327T0157 perl        30769
	B 20070327T0954 perl        30771
	B 20070327T1451 perl        30773
	B 20070327T2003 perl        30774
	B 20070328T1247 perl        30775
	B 20070329T0833 maint-5.8   30765
	B 20070329T1122 perl        30776
	  20070329T1818 perl        30777 gpg failure? terminated?
	B 20070330T0409 perl        30777
	  20070330T2219 perl        30777 terminated somehow
	B 20070330T2244 perl        30777
	B 20070330T2346 perl        30791
	  20070331T0514 perl        30804 still running

	The two gpg failures/terminated questions are suspicious. I rename them
	to .out.term so they do not lead to confusion.

	* Perlbal failing with maintperl, bleadperl (very different failure
	modes). 2 reports sent (as k), check which arrived!

	And 5.8.8 failed the first time but succeeded the second time. Binary
	search impossible because sometimes it hangs. Too fragile: hanging test
	45 for example. Maybe the prerequisites not tight enough?

2007-03-29  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

2007-03-27  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Bug: Uuuuuh, pressing ^C and then trying an illegal command, ugliness:

	LWP failed with code[500] message[read timeout]
Trying to get away with old file:
6114541  500 -rw-rw-r--  1 1000     1000       504953 Nov  8 08:02 /home/k/.cpan/sources/modules/02packages.details.txt.gz
Going to read /home/k/.cpan/sources/modules/02packages.details.txt.gz
  Database was generated on Tue, 07 Nov 2006 12:25:12 GMT
.
Caught SIGINT, trying to continue
	
cpan> hosts
Refusing to autoload 'hosts' while signal pending at lib/CPAN.pm line 590.

	Seems to be FIXED

	* Verilog-Perl a.k.a. Verilog::Language broke some day but not on perl
	but on some other module most probably. I spent a long time
	investigating and still no good plan how to identify the problem.
	There's quite a bit to read further down on 2007-02-17.

	2007-03-28 akoenig: 2007-01-27/28 the tests started failing.

	grep -1 WSNYDER/Verilog-Perl logs/megainstall.20070*.out|grep 'make test'

logs/megainstall.20070127T1700.out-  /usr/bin/make test -- OK
logs/megainstall.20070127T2309.out-  /usr/bin/make test -- OK
logs/megainstall.20070128T0351.out-  /usr/bin/make test -- NOT OK

	all tests before that were OK, all tests after failed.

logs/megainstall.20070127T2309.out:ESC[1;44m  WSNYDER/Verilog-Perl-2.371.tar.gz
logs/megainstall.20070127T2309.out-ESC[0mESC[1;44m  /usr/bin/make test -- OK
--
logs/megainstall.20070128T0351.out:ESC[1;44m  WSNYDER/Verilog-Perl-2.371.tar.gz
logs/megainstall.20070128T0351.out-ESC[0mESC[1;31m  /usr/bin/make test -- NOT OK

	Now this: back in February I proved it is not perl. Now I proved, it is
	something based on date, not perl version. So something else was updated
	that evening, either a distro or a distroprefs file.

% diff -u =(grep 'CPAN.pm: Going to' logs/megainstall.20070127T2309.out | sort) =(grep 'CPAN.pm: Going to' logs/megainstall.20070128T0351.out | sort)
--- /tmp/zshkEon7w      2007-03-28 08:09:44.000000000 +0200
+++ /tmp/zsheCNzmI      2007-03-28 08:09:44.000000000 +0200
@@ -321,6 +321,7 @@
   CPAN.pm: Going to build J/JR/JROBINSON/DBIx-Class-0.07005.tar.gz
   CPAN.pm: Going to build J/JR/JROGERS/Net-Telnet-3.03.tar.gz
   CPAN.pm: Going to build J/JU/JURL/DBD-ODBC-1.13.tar.gz
+  CPAN.pm: Going to build J/JV/JV/Getopt-Long-2.36.tar.gz
   CPAN.pm: Going to build J/JW/JWIED/Net-Daemon-0.39.tar.gz
   CPAN.pm: Going to build J/JW/JWIED/PlRPC-0.2018.tar.gz
   CPAN.pm: Going to build K/KA/KANE/CPANPLUS-0.076.tar.gz

	It is GetOpt-Long-2.36!

	Now I wrote a bug report and RT answers with an internal server error.
	Bug report lost? Fortunately no:

	https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=25900

	* David Golden sent me this link to perlmonks
	http://perlmonks.org/?node_id=603402 and we have since fixed the
	documentation in perlrun or so. Need to come back to monks and report
	this success. DONE.
	
2007-03-26  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Todo: shuffle the Todo list so that it is useable again

	* Jifty seems to hang in the test 

	/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pWbnf63/perl-5.8.0@30754/bin/perl -w t/Mapper/t/02-api.t

	I must kill the associated process because it is standing still since
	2:48 and now it is 5:25. Will have to be seen again before we can take
	some action.

2007-03-25  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Bug: the notest pragma seems to be sticky. I encounter today that I
	cannot test Module::Build with the error message:

Skipping test because of notest pragma

	I do not know who sets it. Even after 'fforce get' it is set.

	After removing all Module-Build*.yml files in the build directory the
	problem goes away. Apparently we restore the pragma from a previous
	session... UHHH. Bug!

	Fixed in SVK rev. 2112 or so.

	* Todo: XUL::Node is some POE stuff and asks two questions

	* rxvt-unicode current version is @ 8.2, debian's is @ 7.9

	* Todo: post a working patch against Danga-Socket based on Dan Kogai's
	posting
	http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/perl5-porters/2006-12/msg00187.html

	DONE

2007-03-24  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* screencast still in idea stage: Slaven suggests to write an abstract
	widget as described in Tk::mega. This shall then use a text widget and
	only implement a few things like add_character, delay, add_line. Each
	shall then be passed through to the text widget. If our needs cannot be
	fulfilled by the text widget, we can still switch later to a canvas
	implementation.

	Further methods needed to make TAB behaviour visible. Both on capture
	and on output tricky. Does screen capture the TAB with its built-in? No.

	It's a drag. It turns me off. It seems the only software that does it
	right might be xterm itself? Ask Marc if rxvt can do it? DONE

2007-03-23  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* rt.cpan.org #25627 is awaiting further thoughts.

2007-03-21  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* I just discovered Term::ReadLine::Zoid by Jaap Karssenberg (PARDUS).
	It seems to work if the prompt is a string, it fails if it is an
	overloaded string. E.g.:

	PERL_RL=Zoid /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/*/p*/perl-5*@30598/bin/perl -Ilib -MCPAN -e 'shell("zoid> ")'
CPAN: File::HomeDir loaded ok (v0.64)
CPAN: Term::ANSIColor loaded ok (v1.11)

cpan shell -- CPAN exploration and modules installation (v1.8879)
ReadLine support enabled

zoid> q
Lockfile removed.

	But it starts in vi mode so immediately turns me off.
	PERL_RL=Zoid::Emacs works better.

	See also Zoidberg, the Perl shell. It seems to need a binary search. Or
	two! First it failed a test in blead which passes with ~29000. But with
	~29000 it's misbehaving during installation because it wants to write to
	/etc/. Maybe a Module::Build problem. With ~23000 it is installable.
	Strange. After a few hours we reach the area 2809[45] and the diffs
	indicate that we must be chasing a red herring. Usually we detect this
	by removing the older of the two involved perls and restarting the
	binary search and then comparing the profile of installed modules and
	their versions near the old and the new borderline. As we have no idea
	which modules to watch we will have to use autobundle.

	28094 succeeds, 95 fails. The patch 28095 is empty (!; see 28097 for
	some kind of explanation). The modules in the old (failing) 28095 are
	documented in Snapshot_2007_03_21_00.pm The first succeeding perl above
	28094 is which? 28100 and its snapshot is Snapshot_2007_03_21_01.pm

	And the first that then fails again is 28101 and I have now to change
	one module after the other to find out which has a bug. The snapshot of
	the 101 is Snapshot_2007_03_21_02.pm.

	Upgrading ExtUtils::MakeMaker from 6.30_02 to 6.32: no success.

	100 ok: Zoidberg-0.96-GO1tIS 	ExtUtils::Install	1.39
	101 fail: Zoidberg-0.96-wZKukQ 	ExtUtils::Install	1.41

	Stepwise upgrading of ExtUtils::Install:

   54015 2006-04-09 YVES/ExtUtils-Install-1.38.tar.gz
   65192 2006-04-14 YVES/ExtUtils-Install-1.39.tar.gz
   66620 2006-04-15 YVES/ExtUtils-Install-1.39_01.tar.gz
   56020 2006-04-30 YVES/ExtUtils-Install-1.40.tar.gz
   56582 2006-07-02 YVES/ExtUtils-Install-1.41.tar.gz
   57600 2007-02-02 YVES/ExtUtils-Install-1.41_01.tar.gz
   57628 2007-02-03 YVES/ExtUtils-Install-1.41_02.tar.gz
   58146 2007-02-11 YVES/ExtUtils-Install-1.41_03.tar.gz

	
	1.39    ok
	1.39_01 not ok
	1.40    not ok
	1.41    not ok
	1.41_01 fails its tests
	1.41_02 not ok
	1.41_03 not ok

	[(Sidetrack: Up/downgrading to 1.39_01 does not work. When I go to the
	~/.cpan/build/ExtUtils-Install-1.39_01 and call './Build install' then I
	see just this:

Reading skip patterns from 'INSTALL.SKIP'.
Writing /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pbN6H8H/perl-5.8.0@28100/lib/site_perl/5.9.4/i686-linux-64int/auto/ExtUtils/Install/.packlist

	I have to remove the INSTALL.SKIP file to install it. After that the
	installation finishes and I get 1.39_01.)]

  Downgrading to 1.39 makes it "work" again. When it comes by zoidrc it says:

Skipping /etc/zoidrc (unchanged)

	Apparently I have this zoidrc since Feb 12 or somebody set the timestamp
	to that. The file belongs to me, so I would be able to overwrite it. The
	failure to install it is a bug in ExtUtils::Install since 1.39_01.

	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=25627

	What's noteworthy is that there seems to be no viable workaround short
	of patching Zoidberg. I cannot find a way to skip the installation step
	of etc/zoidrc. Not with "appdir", not with "distroprefs/*/commandline"
	where I tried to remove some files in the right moment, not with
	"||true" on the commandline because etc/zoidrc comes before the modules.
	Only thing is to disable all ExtUtils::Install after 1.39 and allow 1.39
	and downgrade everywhere. But here my love to Zoidberg is not strong
	enough and I decide to wait for a new release of ExtUtils::Install.

2007-03-20  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Bug in perldoc when rendering S< > which is being used in
	Tk/pod/mega.pod. It seems the rest of the line is being lost or so.
	tkpod displays it correctly.

	* Todo: screencast into the distro.

	http://kubasik.net/blog/2006/12/04/finally-howto-screencast-on-linux/

	http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/06/08/how-to-create-a-screencast-in-ubuntu/

	I think I do not like these tools. They may be good for a YouTube video
	but for inclusion in the distro I want a text file that can be replayed,
	not a video. Tk, wx or curses. But maybe with sound. And of course,
	things that need just-in-time-explanation like "Watch now what happens
	when I hit TAB" or "see the result in slow motion now". It's probably
	much harder to produce such a beast than one would think on first sight.

2007-03-19  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Todo: fix wxWidgets to not download 20 MB every time I try to build
	it. [...] Oh well, I removed wxWidgets from MEGA instead.

	* Todo: investigate a bug in Cache.pm. Cache-2.04 failed today but it
	does not fail when I want to report the bug. The error message in the
	logfile was:

t/file...........
#   Failed test 'Cache::Tester::test_expiry: entry with 1 sec timeout added'
#   at /home/k/.cpan/build/Cache-2.04-L1wXv8/blib/lib/Cache/Tester.pm line 449.
# Looks like you failed 1 test of 84.
dubious
	Test returned status 1 (wstat 256, 0x100)
DIED. FAILED test 37
	Failed 1/84 tests, 98.81% okay

2007-03-18  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Alien::wxWidgets uses C< use Fatal qw(mkdir); > and uncovers that
	bleadperl forgot Fatal.pm when the _ prototype was introduced.

	http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl5.porters/browse_thread/thread/2cae4476fda4c645/94fa909e7ae230a8#94fa909e7ae230a8

2007-03-17  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Retrying now with 5.6.2 from my k account. Worked.

	* Just sent a report for 5.8.3 from my k account and it arrived immediately.

	* report about 5.00504? I forgot that CPAN::Reporter does not run there.
	Lots of prereqs broken on 5.005

	* Report from OSX:

Sending test report with 'pass' to cpan-testers@perl.org
postdrop: warning: unable to look up public/pickup: No such file or directory

	* Report for 5.6.2, where did it get lost? Mail::Send is NOT installed
	(which is good). Net::SMTP is 2.29. 2.30 does not compile because it is
	calling utf8::encode. Will have to retry later.

	* Why is he not sending?

cpan[5]> report ANDK/CPAN-1.88_79.tar.gz
[...]
Test report not sent

	I think I had 'send_report' set to 'no'. Retrying after setting it to
	ask/no. Yes, this time it sent a report for 5.9.5 and it arrived.

2007-03-15  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* clean 31sessions.t output and run 30shell without Expect and clean
	that stderr thing too.

	This doesn't seem to be possible to do reliably. As soon as I let STDOUT
	and STDERR be joint with 2>&1 some tests fail. I think I'd prefer to
	have the Test:: stuff refrain from using STDERR alltogether and as long
	as they don't (or can't?) I'll let some STDERR escape.

	And this?

make[1]: Entering directory `/home/k/.cpan/build/CPAN-Test-Dummy-Perl5-Make-Failearly-1.02-8r8dgG'
make[1]: *** No rule to make target `clean'.  Stop.

	Ah, if {writemakefile} failed, do not try 'make clean'! DONE

2007-03-14  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Class::MOP needs a binary search because test t/003methods.t fails in
	blead but not in 22000. But a naive binary search discovers breakage in
	t/081_meta_package_extension.t on patch 26370. But we certainly can
	ignore that because this test works again nowadays. So I need a
	distropref to limit tests.

	Learn something new about Module::Build:

	    ./Build test --test_files t/mytest.t

	So now binary search again without the 081 test:

----Program----
eval {require Class::MOP};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../pL9BuO7/perl-5.8.0@26486/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../pHxMchK/perl-5.8.0@26487/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----

	Change 26487 by nicholas@nicholas-saigo on 2005/12/26 12:31:01

	Rework constant.pm to take advantage of the space savings of proxy
	constant subroutines whenever it can.

% ./Build test --verbose --test_files t/003_methods.t                                                                                                [CPANSHELL]
t/003_methods....1..64
ok 1 - use Class::MOP;
ok 2 - use Class::MOP::Class;
ok 3 - ... our method is not yet blessed
not ok 4 - ... we added the method successfully

#   Failed test '... we added the method successfully'
#   at t/003_methods.t line 65.
# died: Not a GLOB reference at /home/k/.cpan/build/Class-MOP-0.37-SpVpcK/blib/lib/Class/MOP/Package.pm line 197.
Not a GLOB reference at /home/k/.cpan/build/Class-MOP-0.37-SpVpcK/blib/lib/Class/MOP/Package.pm line 197.
# Looks like you planned 64 tests but only ran 4.
# Looks like you failed 1 test of 4 run.
# Looks like your test died just after 4.
dubious
        Test returned status 255 (wstat 65280, 0xff00)
DIED. FAILED tests 4-64
        Failed 61/64 tests, 4.69% okay
Failed Test     Stat Wstat Total Fail  List of Failed
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
t/003_methods.t  255 65280    64  121  4-64

	REPORT sent to P5P.
	
2007-03-13  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Do you want to build wxWidgets? [yes] y
Which archive type? [tar.gz] tar.gz
Do you want to include OpenGL support [no] n
Creating new 'Build' script for 'Alien-wxWidgets' version '0.28'
MBARBON/Alien-wxWidgets-0.28.tar.gz requires perl '5.6'; you have only 5.009005; giving up

	Looks like a bug in Alien::wxWidgets but somehow I feel guilty. Reported
	via RT.

2007-03-12  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Jost sent me the test output with TEST_VERBOSE and it was sooo
	frustrating:

PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /usr/local/perl-5.8.8/bin/perl "-MExtUtils::Command::MM" "-e" "test_harness(1, 'blib/lib', 'blib/arch')" t/30shell.t
t/30shell....1..230
ok 1 - histsize is 100 before testing
ok 2 - Another dummy test
ok 3 - RUN_EXPECT[1]
ok 4 - empty test %h=()
# PRESSING RETURN
# EXPECT: (?s:ReadLine support (enabled|suppressed|available).*?cpan[^>]*>)
# Looks like you planned 230 tests but only ran 4.
# EOF on i[1]prog[]
# expected[(?s:ReadLine support (enabled|suppressed|available).*?cpan[^>]*>)]
# got[]
# 
dubious
	Test returned status 255 (wstat 65280, 0xff00)
DIED. FAILED tests 5-230
	Failed 226/230 tests, 1.74% okay
Failed Test Stat Wstat Total Fail  List of Failed
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
t/30shell.t  255 65280   230  452  5-230
Failed 1/1 test scripts. 226/230 subtests failed.

	I see no way short of incrementall improve diagnostics there and hope
	that the next release shows us more. DONE.


2007-03-11  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Bug: when I ^C a job, then it seems that some "force" is kept around
	for the next command. We must clear all modules, distros and bundles
	from 'force' bits when we let a Signal interrupt us. I'm not actually
	sure this is what happened but I have the impression that it is possible.

	Or maybe we have a different bug. This is the command:

	fforce test DMAKI/DateTime-Calendar-Japanese-0.05.tar.gz

	requires DMAKI/DateTime-Calendar-Japanese-0.05.tar.gz

	This in turn

	  DateTime::Util::Astro::Moon [requires]
    DateTime::Util::Calc [requires]
    DateTime::Util::Astro::Common [requires]
    DateTime::Event::SolarTerm [requires]

	DMAKI/DateTime-Util-Astro-0.08.tar.gz is the first one and it complains
	about Calc missing.

	DMAKI/DateTime-Util-Calc-0.13.tar.gz then complains about nothing, runs
	tests that fail for some reason. So we come back to Astro. This fails
	tests apparently because Calc is missing.

	So then we come to Calc again because it was on the list above. We fail
	the tests again, but I frankly do not understand why they are run at
	all. Normally we do not run a test twice within a single command.

	Then comes Astro again because of DateTime::Util::Astro::Common and
	fails again tests.

	Then we reach the last one on the list, SolarTerm. This again depends on
	Calc, so we build Calc again, fail, test SolarTerm, fail and ***finish***.

	So now my impression is that the setting of $xo->{make} might cause bad
	things to happen because we are not paying attention to the status of
	make/test/install before that, no? No, it's the fforce that make things
	so ugly. Because all parties inherit the fforce, they need to retest so
	often. So probably no bug at all, just ugly.

	CLOSED.
	
	* Bug: 

Recursive dependency detected:
    DMAKI/DateTime-Calendar-Japanese-0.05.tar.gz
 => DateTime::Calendar::Chinese (have: ; requires: 0.02)
 => DMAKI/DateTime-Calendar-Chinese-0.05.tar.gz
 => DateTime::Util::Astro::Moon (have: ; requires: >= 0.04)
 => DMAKI/DateTime-Util-Astro-0.08.tar.gz
 => Math::BigInt (have: 1.77; unknown status)
 => TELS/math/Math-BigInt-1.80.tar.gz
 => bignum (have: 0.17; requires: 0.19)
 => TELS/math/bignum-0.19.tar.gz
 => Math::BigInt (have: 1.77; requires: 1.79).
Cannot resolve.

	All involved parties get the stigma of circular dependency. That seems
	wrong. Only Math::BigInt and bignum should get it.

	OK, I fixed this but now D:Event:SolarTerm, D:U:Calc, D:U:Astro,
	D:Event:Lunar somehow fall into a spiral of unresolvable dependecies and
	are never redeemed from it. No? Maybe I was just impatient.

	FIXED.

	* HTML::CalendarMonth is failing but the error output is really large. I
	just tried to report() it and must check later if the mail actually
	arrived. --- It seems this report never arrives.

	* There was a mail from David Cantrell about a failure on OpenBSD which
	I could not imagine any reason for.

	ANSWERED.

2007-03-10  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Continue discussing the perlmonks bug with P5P. Only Schwern has
	answered and we need a resolution. Either document as it is at the
	moment or change it and then document it. I tend to the former because
	it is consistent. DONE
	
2007-03-08  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* David Golden sends me a link to perlmonks
	http://perlmonks.org/?node_id=603402

	It's about 1.8802. This guy does a

	setenv PERL5LIB /home/me/build/perl-addons/inst/usr/local/lib/perl5:/home/me/build/perl-addons/inst/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl

	and sets for the './Build install' command?
    Your choice:  [] --destdir /home/me/build/perl-addons/inst

	and for 'make install' command?
    Your choice:  [] DESTDIR=/home/me/build/perl-addons/inst

	When he installs Params::Validate, it indeed gets installed into that
	directory but when he asks 

	! use Params::Validate; print "$Params::Validate::VERSION\n"

	he gets an error

	When he quits the shell and enters it again and repeats the command, it
	is OK.


	Reproducing:

>16:18:39 k@k75:~/sources/CPAN/SVK/trunk% rm -rf ~/.cpan_pm_603402/destdir
>16:18:46 k@k75:~/sources/CPAN/SVK/trunk% PERL5LIB=/home/k/.cpan_pm_603402/destdir/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/pZ22fQT/perl-5.8.0@30509/lib/site_perl /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/pZ22fQT/perl-5.8.0@30509/bin/perl -I ~/.cpan_pm_603402 -MCPAN::MyConfig -Ilib -MCPAN -eshell
CPAN: Term::ANSIColor loaded ok (v1.11)

cpan shell -- CPAN exploration and modules installation (v1.8879)
ReadLine support enabled

cpan[1]> install Acme::Meta
CPAN: Storable loaded ok (v2.15)
Going to read /home/k/.cpan/Metadata
  Database was generated on Thu, 08 Mar 2007 14:08:52 GMT
Running install for module 'Acme::Meta'
CPAN: YAML::Syck loaded ok (v0.82)
Running make for N/NW/NWCLARK/Acme-Meta-0.02.tar.gz
CPAN: LWP::UserAgent loaded ok (v2.033)
CPAN: URI::URL loaded ok (v5.03)
CPAN: Digest::SHA loaded ok (v5.44)
CPAN: Module::Signature loaded ok (v0.55)
Signature for /home/ftp/pub/CPAN/authors/id/N/NW/NWCLARK/CHECKSUMS ok
CPAN: Compress::Zlib loaded ok (v2.004)
Checksum for /home/ftp/pub/CPAN/authors/id/N/NW/NWCLARK/Acme-Meta-0.02.tar.gz ok
Scanning cache /home/k/.cpan_pm_603402/build for sizes
............................................................................DONE
Acme-Meta-0.02
Acme-Meta-0.02/Meta.pm
Acme-Meta-0.02/MANIFEST
Acme-Meta-0.02/t
Acme-Meta-0.02/Changes
Acme-Meta-0.02/README
Acme-Meta-0.02/Makefile.PL
Acme-Meta-0.02/META.yml
Acme-Meta-0.02/t/1.t
CPAN: File::Temp loaded ok (v0.18)
Package came without SIGNATURE


  CPAN.pm: Going to build N/NW/NWCLARK/Acme-Meta-0.02.tar.gz

Checking if your kit is complete...
Looks good
Writing Makefile for Acme::Meta
cp Meta.pm blib/lib/Acme/Meta.pm
Manifying blib/man3/Acme::Meta.3
  NWCLARK/Acme-Meta-0.02.tar.gz
  /usr/bin/make -- OK
Running make test
PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/pZ22fQT/perl-5.8.0@30509/bin/perl "-MExtUtils::Command::MM" "-e" "test_harness(0, 'blib/lib', 'blib/arch')" t/*.t
t/1....ok                                                                    
All tests successful.
Files=1, Tests=2,  0 wallclock secs ( 0.07 cusr +  0.00 csys =  0.07 CPU)
  NWCLARK/Acme-Meta-0.02.tar.gz
  /usr/bin/make test -- OK
Running make install
Installing /home/k/.cpan_pm_603402/destdir/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/pZ22fQT/perl-5.8.0@30509/lib/site_perl/5.8.8/Acme/Meta.pm
Installing /home/k/.cpan_pm_603402/destdir/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/pZ22fQT/perl-5.8.0@30509/man/man3/Acme::Meta.3
Writing /home/k/.cpan_pm_603402/destdir/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/pZ22fQT/perl-5.8.0@30509/lib/site_perl/5.8.8/i686-linux-64int/auto/Acme/Meta/.packlist
Appending installation info to /home/k/.cpan_pm_603402/destdir/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/pZ22fQT/perl-5.8.0@30509/lib/5.8.8/i686-linux-64int/perllocal.pod
  NWCLARK/Acme-Meta-0.02.tar.gz
  make install DESTDIR=/home/k/.cpan_pm_603402/destdir -- OK

cpan[2]> m Acme::Meta      
Module id = Acme::Meta
    CPAN_USERID  NWCLARK (Nicholas Clark <nwc10+please+use+perlbug+for+perl+queries@colon.colondot.net>)
    CPAN_VERSION 0.02
    CPAN_FILE    N/NW/NWCLARK/Acme-Meta-0.02.tar.gz
    UPLOAD_DATE  2006-10-01
    MANPAGE      Acme::Meta - Enhances the Meta package
    INST_FILE    (not installed)


cpan[3]> ! use Acme::Meta  
Can't locate Acme/Meta.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /home/k/.cpan_pm_603402 /home/k/sources/CPAN/SVK/trunk/lib /home/k/.cpan_pm_603402/destdir/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/pZ22fQT/perl-5.8.0@30509/lib/site_perl /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/pZ22fQT/perl-5.8.0@30509/lib/5.8.8/i686-linux-64int /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/pZ22fQT/perl-5.8.0@30509/lib/5.8.8 /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/pZ22fQT/perl-5.8.0@30509/lib/site_perl/5.8.8/i686-linux-64int /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/pZ22fQT/perl-5.8.0@30509/lib/site_perl/5.8.8 /home/k/sources/CPAN/SVK/trunk) at (eval 48) line 2.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at (eval 48) line 2.

cpan[3]> q
Lockfile removed.
>16:20:19 k@k75:~/sources/CPAN/SVK/trunk% PERL5LIB=/home/k/.cpan_pm_603402/destdir/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/pZ22fQT/perl-5.8.0@30509/lib/site_perl /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/pZ22fQT/perl-5.8.0@30509/bin/perl -I ~/.cpan_pm_603402 -MCPAN::MyConfig -Ilib -MCPAN -eshell
CPAN: Term::ANSIColor loaded ok (v1.11)

cpan shell -- CPAN exploration and modules installation (v1.8879)
ReadLine support enabled

cpan[1]> ! use Acme::Meta
cpan[1]> m Acme::Meta    
CPAN: Storable loaded ok (v2.15)
Going to read /home/k/.cpan/Metadata
  Database was generated on Thu, 08 Mar 2007 14:08:52 GMT
CPAN: LWP::UserAgent loaded ok (v2.033)
CPAN: YAML::Syck loaded ok (v0.82)
CPAN: URI::URL loaded ok (v5.03)
Module id = Acme::Meta
    CPAN_USERID  NWCLARK (Nicholas Clark <nwc10+please+use+perlbug+for+perl+queries@colon.colondot.net>)
    CPAN_VERSION 0.02
    CPAN_FILE    N/NW/NWCLARK/Acme-Meta-0.02.tar.gz
    UPLOAD_DATE  2006-10-01
    MANPAGE      Acme::Meta - Enhances the Meta package
    INST_FILE    /home/k/.cpan_pm_603402/destdir/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/pZ22fQT/perl-5.8.0@30509/lib/site_perl/5.8.8/Acme/Meta.pm
    INST_VERSION 0.02



	So the bug is real and reproducable with blead. It seems to be about
	@INC expansion. Before I installed Acme::Meta I had this @INC:

cpan[1]> dump @INC
CPAN: Storable loaded ok (v2.15)
Going to read /home/k/.cpan/Metadata
  Database was generated on Thu, 08 Mar 2007 14:08:52 GMT
CPAN: Data::Dumper loaded ok (v2.121_11)
$VAR1 = '/home/k/.cpan_pm_603402';
$VAR2 = '/home/k/sources/CPAN/SVK/trunk/lib';
$VAR3 = '/home/k/.cpan_pm_603402/destdir/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/pZ22fQT/perl-5.8.0@30509/lib/site_perl';
$VAR4 = '/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/pZ22fQT/perl-5.8.0@30509/lib/5.8.8/i686-linux-64int';
$VAR5 = '/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/pZ22fQT/perl-5.8.0@30509/lib/5.8.8';
$VAR6 = '/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/pZ22fQT/perl-5.8.0@30509/lib/site_perl/5.8.8/i686-linux-64int';
$VAR7 = '/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/pZ22fQT/perl-5.8.0@30509/lib/site_perl/5.8.8';
$VAR8 = '/home/k/sources/CPAN/SVK/trunk';

	After I installed Acme::Meta I had this @INC:

cpan[1]> dump @INC         
CPAN: Storable loaded ok (v2.15)
Going to read /home/k/.cpan/Metadata
  Database was generated on Thu, 08 Mar 2007 14:08:52 GMT
CPAN: Data::Dumper loaded ok (v2.121_11)
$VAR1 = '/home/k/.cpan_pm_603402';
$VAR2 = '/home/k/sources/CPAN/SVK/trunk/lib';
$VAR3 = '/home/k/.cpan_pm_603402/destdir/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/pZ22fQT/perl-5.8.0@30509/lib/site_perl/5.8.8/i686-linux-64int';
$VAR4 = '/home/k/.cpan_pm_603402/destdir/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/pZ22fQT/perl-5.8.0@30509/lib/site_perl/5.8.8';
$VAR5 = '/home/k/.cpan_pm_603402/destdir/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/pZ22fQT/perl-5.8.0@30509/lib/site_perl';
$VAR6 = '/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/pZ22fQT/perl-5.8.0@30509/lib/5.8.8/i686-linux-64int';
$VAR7 = '/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/pZ22fQT/perl-5.8.0@30509/lib/5.8.8';
$VAR8 = '/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/pZ22fQT/perl-5.8.0@30509/lib/site_perl/5.8.8/i686-linux-64int';
$VAR9 = '/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/pZ22fQT/perl-5.8.0@30509/lib/site_perl/5.8.8';
$VAR10 = '/home/k/sources/CPAN/SVK/trunk';


	So apparently I knew too little about @INC population.

	It seems perl 5.8.8 scans the PERL5LIB directories at startup if they
	exist and only populates @INC for directories that either are explicitly
	mentioned or that really exist. The directories .../5.8.8 and
	.../5.8.8/i686-linux-64int are not added as long as they are not
	created.

	And apparently I had always relied that perl solves it for me.

	POSTED analysis to P5P with the subject "Composing @INC from PERL5LIB".
	

	* David Cantrell reports that YAML must be > 0.39 if we want to use it.

	FIXED

2007-03-06  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Oh Joy of having authors who carefully track the dependencies between
	their packages. bignum currently depends on Math::BigInt 1.79. But
	current version is 1.80. But Math-BigIng-1.80 depends on bignum 0.19. So
	if I have 1.77 I must first install 1.79, then I can install bignum and
	only then I can install BigInt 1.80.

	I'm sure some people will call it a bug that CPAN.pm is not able to
	install the old version 1.79 as a dependency of 1.80.

2007-03-04  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* blead@30460:

ext/Time/HiRes/t/HiRes......................................FAILED at test 35
[...]
../ext/Time/HiRes/t/HiRes.t: overall time allowed for tests (90s) exceeded!
ok

	* Strange failures with bleadperl @30458:

 ADAMK/Test-ClassAPI-1.03.tar.gz              : make_test NO
 ADAMK/File-Flat-1.00.tar.gz                  : make_test NO
 ADAMK/Test-Inline-2.201.tar.gz               : make_test NO
 RUZ/DBIx-SearchBuilder-1.47.tar.gz           : make_test NO
 JESSE/Class-ReturnValue-0.53.tar.gz          : make_test NO one dependency not OK (Test::Inline)
 ADAMK/Algorithm-Dependency-1.102.tar.gz      : make_test NO one dependency not OK (Test::ClassAPI)

	when I tried all these, they worked fine.

	It seems that ADAMK/Test-ClassAPI-1.03 is depending on Params::Util but
	not declaring it? Yes, that's it. Already reported as
	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=25009

	* 29026 broke Text::Template

t/09-error.........Illegal value `WLUNCH' for TYPE parameter at t/09-error.t line 41
t/09-error.........FAILED test 3
        Failed 1/5 tests, 80.00% okay

	It's a \Q\` matter and shall be treated as a bug in user code, I suppose.

	https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=23620 and a new distroprefs
	file. I only looked into RT too late:(

2007-03-03  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* just sent a report about Exporter::Simple. Debugging shows that it was
	sent with Net::SMTP. Same for XML::Compile. Neither arrived at testers.
	Maybe I had a different smtp host then? I do not remember to ever have
	changed it.

	smtp_server=localhost

	We should try	mx.develooper.com ?

	Tried that with Attribute::Util. Debugging says that it was sending to
	develooper.

	Or maybe I shouldn't have changed my email address?

	Changing back to andreas.koenig.gmwojprw@franz.ak.mind.de and reporting
	about UNIVERSAL::exports.

	YES, this was it. So I need to turn the clock back: I have not reported
	anything for quite a while:(

	* whats missing for this release?

	cpan -r bug report      # mail to brian is on the way

	Jost's sun-solaris test # no idea what to do

	can we have RT          # Bundle::RT is in

	and Tcl in megainstall  # DONE

	* my internet access is broken at the moment. When it is back I need to
	answer two posts by Eric Wilhelm.

	* possible bug: when a distroprefs file has "match" but no valid keyword
	under match/, then it seems that it matches always instead of being
	rejected as invalid. We must make the one of the match subthingies
	mandatory. Need to study
	http://www.kuwata-lab.com/kwalify/users-guide.01.html for that when my
	internet is back.

	FIXED in svk rev. 2002 or so.

2007-03-02  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* New FAILS from testers: Jost on Sun sees only 4 OKs in 30shell on
	solaris and a dubious. Slaven saw one test in 31sessions failing.

	The Slaven thing can be averted by taking out a piece of the "Expected"
	regexp. DONE

	For the failure on sun I need a different strategy. Something that gives
	more feedback.

t/30shell..........dubious
	Test returned status 255 (wstat 65280, 0xff00)
DIED. FAILED tests 5-230
	Failed 226/230 tests, 1.74% okay

2007-03-01  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* XML::Simple failed a test today. When I came and tested it again, it
	succeeded. Fortunately the tests spit out helpful diagnostics. Looks
	like XML::SAX must be installed? No, this seems not the problem. So
	maybe a intermittant failure.

t/3_Storable......
no element found at line 1, column 0, byte 0 at /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pvDPEkV/perl-5.8.0@30435/lib/site_perl/5.9.5/i686-linux-64int/XML/Parser.pm line 187
# Looks like you planned 23 tests but only ran 13.
# Looks like your test died just after 13.
dubious
	Test returned status 255 (wstat 65280, 0xff00)

2007-02-28  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Tcl needs some attention to compile? NO

2007-02-26  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* supposedly a bug: Slaven found both cpanconfig and cpan_config FIXED

	* todo: document match/perlconfig DONE

2007-02-24  Andreas Koenig  <k@andreas-koenigs-computer.local>

	* jochen stenzel asked me for a comparison of CPAN::Site and dot
	distributions or better said, a summary about the options we have today
	to support modules besides CPAN itself.

	My current favorite is to have all distros that are not on CPAN in a
	repository, check the repository out on the local disk, ideally always
	in the same path/location. Then write a Bundle file that contains all
	"root" directories of these non-distros and install the Bundle. (Note to
	self: need to write detailed instructions how to do all that). The
	advantage of this is that nobody needs to make releases, all code is
	checked out at any point in time and is current. If one needs to make
	sure that the software is in a stable state, this can be achieved with
	the options provided by the revision control software. The disadvantage
	of this method is that CPAN.pm knows nothing about the state of the
	distros, it just installs them and does not keep a record that it did so
	and cannot determine if there is a newer version. If you install the
	Bundle again immediately after you have installed, it just starts from
	the beginning again (rinse, repeat).

	I must try if 'cpan .' also works for a Bundle. I do not think it does.

	Then I must study how CPAN::Site works nowadays. The problem with that
	always was that it required manual work on the side of the maintainer of
	the additional repository.

	Of course, the ideal solution would be if CPAN.pm could just "subscribe"
	to any number of parallel Universes and then mix them with some
	algorithm (first wins; manual conflict resolution; etc.). Still, this
	would require skills on the side of the archive maintainers or muchly
	improved tools for them.

	pip by Adam Kennedy tries to solve the problem (I think) by injecting
	distros/tarballs into the author "LOCAL" directory. Simple quick
	solution but no integration into an index at all, so the same
	disadvantage as the dot distros (rinse,repeat) but with the additional
	(of course very minor) disadvantage that somebody must make releases,
	tar them together and then CPAN.pm has to unroll them again.

2007-02-20  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* scripts installation broken. Tried it with pingomatic and keepcool. FIXED

	* when was notest introduced? In 1.80, December 2005. New features by
	Slaven this year are: 'cpan .', scripts, 'perl -I. -MCPAN' now works.

	* consider different sorting of directory listings. suggested by Slaven.
	REJECT

2007-02-19  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Chris has tested _76: twice OK, once NOT on 31sessions/28th test.

	* Chris has tested _75 and I can see that his shell says the unexpected

	'Unknown shell command \'yes\'. Type ? for help.
'
	But the "yes" gets eaten earlier too

	Would you like me to configure as much as possible automatically? [yes] yes

	How can it happen that the yes is both consumed and still left over on
	the input?

	Now I have it! He must have set PERL_MM_USE_DEFAULT!!!!!!!!!

2007-02-18  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* I'm quite helpless with the 5 reports from chris.

	Apparently the output is from the command N-1 while the shell believes
	to test the command N.

	So the reason could be that the shell asks one more question to chris
	than to me.

	I have tried

	cpanplus with bleadperl on k75
	cpanplus with 5.8.8 on k75
	cpan with 5.8.6 on k78
	cpan with 5.8.8 on dev05
	cpan with 5.8.8 on playground
	cpan 1.7601 with 5.8.7 on k66

	Ahh, the last one has lots of errors. But not the one that chris has.

	* last night Convert::PEM with 30342 went into an endless loop and
	filled the disk. Convert-PEM-0.07-Dlxs3I/ is left over, I had to remove
	the logfile but let's try if report can reconstruct. Of course not,
	because the yml file could not be written. Report starts in a new
	directory and succeeds within seconds. Visiting the left over directory
	from the nightly run also brings no evidence: tests run OK within
	seconds. Oh well.

2007-02-17  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* testers has 5 nearly identical FAILS results on 1.88_74, all made with
	CPANPLUS 0.076, all from chris. The failure goes like this:

#   Failed test 'command[test CPAN::Test::Dummy::Perl5::Make]'
#   at t/31sessions.t line 170.
#                   '    patch              [ ]
# Please use 'o conf commit' to make the config permanent!
# 
# '
#     doesn't match '/t/00_load.+ok/'


	and I cannot imagine how this can happen.

	So I find myself using CPANPLUS for the very first time since ages.

	I type 'f Verilog::Languange' and CPANPLUS does not seem to answer ever.
	Oh well, after about two minutes it says

    1 Verilog-Perl                                       2.361    WSNYDER   
    2 Verilog-Perl                                       2.371    WSNYDER   

	Cool feature.

	I do the same for CPAN and they answer

    1 CPAN                                               1.87     ANDK
    2 CPAN                                               1.8869   ANDK
    3 CPAN                                               1.8866   ANDK
    4 CPAN                                               1.8872   ANDK
    5 CPAN                                               1.8867   ANDK
    6 CPAN                                               1.8864   ANDK
    7 CPAN                                               1.8871   ANDK
    8 CPAN                                               1.88     ANDK
    9 CPAN                                               1.8865   ANDK
   10 CPAN                                               1.8873   ANDK
   11 CPAN                                               1.8874   ANDK
   12 CPAN                                               1.8868   ANDK
   13 CPAN                                               1.8801   ANDK
   14 CPAN                                               1.8802   ANDK

	What a strange sorting! And where are the underscores? And when I say 'i
	11' they say

Installing CPAN
*** Install log written to:
  /home/k/.cpanplus/install-logs/CPAN-1171719784.log

Module 'CPAN' installed successfully
No errors installing all modules

	This action took less than a second and I must open that logfile to find
	out that CPAN is already up to date (without version information). And
	above that I do have 1.8873 installed, not 1.8874 so why they do not
	install 1.8874 is not clear.

	But I can test 1.8874 ok and now I have again no idea why the 5 FAILS on
	testers.
	
	* Macbook compiles bleadperl@30032 with a horrible amount of test failures

Failed Test                               Stat Wstat Total Fail  List of Failed
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
../ext/Encode/t/Aliases.t                    2   512    ??   ??  ??
../ext/Encode/t/CJKT.t                     255 65280    60  120  1-60
../ext/Encode/t/Encode.t                     2   512    ??   ??  ??
../ext/Encode/t/Encoder.t                  255 65280   516 1032  1-516
../ext/Encode/t/Unicode.t                  255 65280    37   74  1-37
../ext/Encode/t/at-cn.t                    255 65280    29   58  1-29
../ext/Encode/t/at-tw.t                    255 65280    17   34  1-17
../ext/Encode/t/enc_data.t                   2   512    ??   ??  ??
../ext/Encode/t/enc_eucjp.t                  2   512    ??   ??  ??
../ext/Encode/t/enc_module.t                 2   512    ??   ??  ??
../ext/Encode/t/enc_utf8.t                   2   512    ??   ??  ??
../ext/Encode/t/encoding.t                   2   512    ??   ??  ??
../ext/Encode/t/fallback.t                 255 65280    44   88  1-44
../ext/Encode/t/from_to.t                  255 65280     3    6  1-3
../ext/Encode/t/grow.t                       2   512    ??   ??  ??
../ext/Encode/t/gsm0338.t                  255 65280    21   42  1-21
../ext/Encode/t/guess.t                      2   512    ??   ??  ??
../ext/Encode/t/jperl.t                    255 65280    15   30  1-15
../ext/Encode/t/mime-header.t              255 65280    11   21  1-11
../ext/Encode/t/mime_header_iso2022jp.t    255 65280    14   28  1-14
../ext/Encode/t/perlio.t                   255 65280    38   76  1-38
../ext/Encode/t/utf8strict.t                 2   512    ??   ??  ??
../ext/Hash/Util/FieldHash/t/01_load.t     255 65280     8   12  1-2 4-8
../ext/Hash/Util/FieldHash/t/02_function.  255 65280    ??   ??  ??
../ext/Hash/Util/FieldHash/t/03_class.t    255 65280     7   14  1-7
../ext/Hash/Util/FieldHash/t/04_thread.t   255 65280    ??   ??  ??
../ext/Hash/Util/FieldHash/t/05_perlhook.  255 65280    ??   ??  ??
../ext/Hash/Util/FieldHash/t/10_hash.t     255 65280    ??   ??  ??
../ext/Hash/Util/FieldHash/t/11_hashassig  255 65280    ??   ??  ??
../ext/Hash/Util/FieldHash/t/12_hashwarn.  255 65280    ??   ??  ??
../ext/Hash/Util/t/Util.t                  255 65280   227  430  1-227
../ext/PerlIO/encoding/t/nolooping.t       255 65280     1    2  1
../ext/Storable/t/downgrade.t              255 65280   169  325  7-169
../ext/Storable/t/restrict.t                 2   512    ??   ??  ??
../ext/Sys/Syslog/t/syslog.t                 4  1024   159    4  129-132
../lib/Pod/Simple/t/corpustest.t                        43   15  3 5 7 9 11 17
                                                                 19 21 23 25 28
                                                                 36 38 40 42
../lib/base/t/fields-base.t                255 65280    29   20  20-29
../lib/base/t/fields.t                     255 65280    16   22  6-16
../lib/encoding/warnings/t/4-lexical.t                   3    1  2
comp/utf.t                                   2   512    15   30  1-15
io/layers.t                                             37   13  6 9-11 13 21
                                                                 23-24 33-37
run/fresh_perl.t                                        94    1  94
uni/chomp.t                                  2   512    ??   ??  ??
uni/chr.t                                  255 65280     6   12  1-6
uni/greek.t                                  2   512    ??   ??  ??
uni/latin2.t                                 2   512    ??   ??  ??
uni/tr_7jis.t                              255 65280     6   12  1-6
uni/tr_eucjp.t                             255 65280     6   12  1-6
uni/tr_sjis.t                              255 65280     6   12  1-6
uni/tr_utf8.t                              255 65280     8   16  1-8
79 tests and 530 subtests skipped.
Failed 50/1366 test scripts. 1312/172604 subtests failed.
Files=1366, Tests=172604, 647 wallclock secs (357.74 cusr + 65.52 csys = 423.26 
CPU)
Failed 50/1366 test programs. 1312/172604 subtests failed.


	* Todo: mark hosts command and dot directories as alpha code in the
	documentation.

	* Bug: Watch the upload date between the two runs of 'm'

cpan[4]> m Verilog::Language
Module id = Verilog::Language
    DESCRIPTION  Language support, number parsing, etc
    CPAN_USERID  WSNYDER (Wilson Snyder <wsnyder@wsnyder.org>)
    CPAN_VERSION 2.371
    CPAN_FILE    W/WS/WSNYDER/Verilog-Perl-2.371.tar.gz
    DSLIP_STATUS Rdpfp (released,developer,perl,functions,Standard-Perl)
    INST_FILE    (not installed)

cpan[5]> m Verilog::Language
Module id = Verilog::Language
    DESCRIPTION  Language support, number parsing, etc
    CPAN_USERID  WSNYDER (Wilson Snyder <wsnyder@wsnyder.org>)
    CPAN_VERSION 2.371
    CPAN_FILE    W/WS/WSNYDER/Verilog-Perl-2.371.tar.gz
    UPLOAD_DATE  2007-01-23
    DSLIP_STATUS Rdpfp (released,developer,perl,functions,Standard-Perl)
    INST_FILE    (not installed)

	1.8802 does not seem to have this bug. Ah, but I cannot reproduce it now
	with 1.88_74 either, so it's not always there. Turning off
	cache_metadata does not bring it back.

	I must keep an eye on this but it is no showstopper.

	* Verilog-Perl a.k.a. Verilog::Language broke on patch 30044. The
	failure mode is that the modules themselves compile fine but the output
	of the compiled program 'vppp' differs from the expected one.

	    UPLOAD_DATE  2007-01-23

	Suspiciously young and the patch 30044 appeared on 27th.

   91807 2006-10-02 WSNYDER/Verilog-Perl-2.361.tar.gz
   93591 2007-01-23 WSNYDER/Verilog-Perl-2.371.tar.gz

	I repeat the binary search with nailed down version demand on
	Verilog::Language 2.371 to make sure that the first run was not trapped
	into a difference between the two versions. ... No, it's not a version
	trap.

	So I made my own 30333 where the sense of the ifdef is turned around to
	say the opposite. It seems to me this is the way it was intended. But no
	success. Even backing out 30044 does not help.

	Now I removed the whole installed 30333, reinstalled it with the backed
	out 30044 patch. (recompiled but not recompiled from scratch). As my
	first module I try Verilog and it fails.

	Now I recompile from scratch. 'make clobber' and start with ./Configure.
	30044 is backed out. No, Verilog remains broken.

	This is impossible. Let me see 30043 again. Yes, it passes all tests.

	And when I now patch perl.h with 30044 straight forward and compile perl
	again and install it and then fforce test Verilog::Language? Then it too
	passes all tests!

	Does ./installperl not overwrite perl.h??? It does overwrite it.

	CCACHE to blame? No, CCACHE_DISABLE makes no difference.

	Something within Verilog must be broken too. It's a preprocessor. It may
	parse header files and draw conclusions.

	Let me repeat:

	30043: ok
	30044: not ok
	30333: not ok

	Apply diff 43:44 to 30043: still ok
	apply diff 44:43 to 30333: still not ok

	So *something* between perl and Verilog does not notice the perl.h
	change and remains in the state it had on the very first compile. Maybe
	this something even survives make clobber.

	"regen" or some such?

	apply diff 44:43 to 30333 and regen: still not ok

	Remove the old 30044 and build one with buildaperl from scratch, no
	extra patching:

	30044: ok

	!!!!! something must have gone wrong when building 30044 the first time,
	so the binary search went wrong too and I was hunting the wrong diff for
	many hours.

	Maybe there is still a race condition in binsearchaperl?

	Remember: if a binary search brings a result that raises doubts, remove
	both perls from installed-perls and their build directory as well and
	rerun the binary search.

	This is even true if there is NO race condition within binsearchaperl.
	It's always possible that some third party installed something that
	disturbs the binary search, like say Carp.pm

	So I start the next binsearch since 30044 now is OK and it diagnoses
	3006{4,7} as the threshold and I decide immediately to remove 30067 to
	run the next binsearch. And it jumped only forward and decided now it
	would be between 3007[26]. It's very clear now that it is not bleadperl
	but some other module that is used by vppp.

	LATER. I must delay further analysis because this can take a long time.


2007-02-16  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Talk: convert a megainstall file to HTML with <pre> and <span
	class="XXX"> and many anchors so that we can jump directly into it. Then
	make HTML slides that jump into that file and into the distroprefs files
	which may need converting too for best lettersize.

	Interestingly, when I do this, rendering of the resulting HTML file is
	too much work for my firefox on linux/Dell/500 MHz. The MacBook is
	several orders of magnitude faster but still a bit painful.

	* in the talk, compare dot distros with pip and Inject.

	* read CPAN::Inject and CPAN::Mini::Inject manpages

	straightforward and modest. No index support, so only distribution
	support.

	* read pip manpage:

	Wow: http://svn.phase-n.com/svn/cpan/trunk/pip invitation to write
	directly to it. But nobody gives me the clue howto follow this
	invitation. It *is* subversion. Ah, two levels higher we have the
	paragraph

	    To access the repositories above via Subversion, browse to the
	    location in the repository you want via your web browser and then
	    use that URL with your favorite Subversion client tool. You may
	    asked to enter your username and password for access to any
	    restricted repositories.

	Indeed, I can do

	    % svn co http://svn.phase-n.com/svn/cpan/trunk/pip/ ./

	and when I want to check in, it asks me for username and password. But
	it speaks only http, so no way to use that seriously. No contact address
	on that page either except for a link to the Michael.Sinz homepage.

	Typos: "is available is", "guarentee"

	Missing example of a p5i file in the manpage.

	Ahh, now I understand how it works. Authentication does not go via pause
	(I watched the logfile while logging in with wrong password) but every
	author must get a password from adam directly. So that's OK. It's just
	misleading to say

	    Write access to the repository is made available automatically to
	    any published CPAN author, and to most other volunteers on request.
	
2007-02-15  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* I'm guilty to not have mentioned Devel::Size when we were talking
	about releasing 5.10. It's gone broke when? 29544: Eliminate PVBM

	We need something like this which is from a patch by Nicholas for
	Clone.xs:

+#if PERL_VERSION <= 8
       case SVt_PVBM:   /* 8 */
+#endif

	FIXED in http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=24982 and distroprefs.

	* I just discovered that CPAN::Reporter does not work with 5.8.0 because
	IO::CaptureOutput does not either.

2007-02-13  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* My tests usually are run with perls that are pretty well equipped with
	modules. I should always test with a minimum perl installation. We need
	to provide one. Let's nominate a funny number. 30123.

	31sessions test succeeds with this.

	BUT if I remove Archive::Tar and Compress::Zlib, then it fails. Wonderful.

	FIXED around SVK rev. 1913

	* Today with 30254 I observed HTML::Mason test failure, but only once:

t/10-cache....................
#   Failed test 'cache_self_expire_in'
#   at /home/k/.cpan/build/HTML-Mason-1.35-ecRYhh/blib/lib/HTML/Mason/Tests.pm line 593.
# Looks like you failed 1 test of 20.
dubious
	Test returned status 1 (wstat 256, 0x100)
DIED. FAILED test 6
	Failed 1/20 tests, 95.00% okay

	When I started a binary search this same perl succeeded with all tests.
	Go figure.

	* From Adam K:

 > Ahhh, yes...'reload index' was the key for me.  Unfortunately, I had a
> very stale mirror (ibiblio.org) as my first site.  I then repopulated
> my cpan site list based on info from http://www.cs.uu.nl/people/henkp/
> mirmon/cpan.html and thought my index would get updated automatically.

Andreas

This is the issue I was talking about before, with regards to mirror
changes.

We should probably always flush non-archival files when the mirror changes.

	FIXED in SVK rev. 1903

	* Bug: Template-Plugin-Number-Format-1.01 declares prerequisite
	Number::Format with version undef (real undef, not the String undef) and
	it does not get installed before the tests happen. I need a random perl
	that has neither T:P:N:F nor Template nor N:F.

for p in `binsearchaperl --show-cache --bounds 30000-99999 --apcdir /home/src/perl/repoperls/APC --prefix /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls` ; do
  $p -e 'for my $p (qw(Template::Plugin::Number::Format Number::Format Template)){
    eval qq{require $p};
    print $@ ? "-" : "+";
  }
  print $^X, "\n"'
done

	Gives 30192.

	FIXED in SVK rev. 1902

2007-02-12  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

2007-02-10  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Unicode/Map.pm, Spreadsheet/WriteExcel.pm, Jcode.pm are all undeclared
	prereqs of Spreadsheet ParseExcel and prevent binary search. RT is down.
	RT is up again and I added this observation to
	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=24693

	* Bug in APC: the tempdirs that end up in the chache are mode 0700
	instead of 0755. Fixed in APC revision 230

	* Bug in patchaperlup:

Not in MANIFEST: wince/README.perlce.withCR
Not in MANIFEST: wince/registry.bat.withCR
ALERT: Going to remove apparent testfile(s): lib/Text/Balanced/t/00.load.t lib/Text/Balanced/t/pod-coverage.t
Maybe this MANIFEST is broken?
Proceed? (y|n) [y] 

	Fixed in APC revision 229

2007-02-09  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Look after TT 2.17 [...] Not needed, Andy has released 2.18 today YAY!

2007-02-08  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* CPAN::Inject fails with 5.8.9-tobe. I tend to believe this happens
	because 5.8.9 has 1.7602 and C:I needs 1.87. Now what is intimidating is
	that when I run under 1.88_73, then CPAN.pm refuses to install CPAN
	saying that it is up to date. While the installed CPAN.pm is outdated,
	the used CPAN.pm is really uptodate. Aha! force install at its best.

	* Feature request by self: The bad performance of YAML.pm seems to be a
	showstopper. YAML.pm needs to be banned or disabling of YAML operations
	should be possible, don't know exactly how.

	* ----Program----
eval q{use DBIx::Class 0.07005};
print $@ ? "N/A" : "OK";
print "\n";

----Output of .../pBEyrHy/perl-5.8.0@29025/bin/perl----
OK

----EOF ($?='0')----
----Output of .../pgLprwz/perl-5.8.0@29026/bin/perl----
N/A

----EOF ($?='0')----

	t/76joins.......................NOK 6/53
#   Failed test 'join 6 (HASH reference for ON statement dies) ok'
#   at t/76joins.t line 110.
#                   'HASH reference arguments are not supported in JOINS - try using "..." instead' at t/76joins.t line 109
# '
#     doesn't match '(?-xism:^HASH\ reference\ arguments\ are\ not\ supported\ in\ JOINS\ \-\ try\ using\ \\\"\.\.\.\"\ instead)'
t/76joins.......................ok 29/53# Looks like you failed 1 test of 53.  
t/76joins.......................dubious
        Test returned status 1 (wstat 256, 0x100)
DIED. FAILED test 6
        Failed 1/53 tests, 98.11% okay


	https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=24349

	Binary search points to 29026.


2007-02-07  Andreas J Koenig  <akoenig@iconmobile.com>

	* Feature request by self (again?): when dieing due to recursion
	detection, please list the demanded version number behind each module
	name. Adjust the test in 30shell.t. DONE

2007-02-07  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Bug in patchaperlup: the 5.8.0/ directory is breaking concurrency.
	When a process untars a perl before the other one has moved to the
	File::Temp directory, it seems to overwrite something. Binary searches
	and the normal megainstall loop must not run at the same time!

	Fixed in APC revision 231

2007-02-06  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Bug: I have a tar ball of an already installed bleadperl@28095 with a
	certain mix of outdated modules. When I run upgrade with that perl on
	dev05, then it runs into:

  JPEACOCK/version-0.69.tar.gz
  ./Build test -- NOT OK
Warning (usually harmless): 'YAML' not installed, will not store persistent state
Running Build install
  make test had returned bad status, won't install without force

Recursive dependency detected:
    Archive::Tar
 => K/KA/KANE/Archive-Tar-1.30.tar.gz
 => File::Spec
 => K/KW/KWILLIAMS/PathTools-3.24.tar.gz
 => Module::Build
 => K/KW/KWILLIAMS/Module-Build-0.2806.tar.gz
 => File::Spec.
Cannot continue.
Failed during this command:
 RKOBES/ExtUtils-Command-1.13.tar.gz          : make_test NO Test::Harness too old
 RKOBES/ExtUtils-Manifest-1.51.tar.gz         : make_test NO Test::Harness too old
 KWILLIAMS/ExtUtils-ParseXS-2.18.tar.gz       : make_test NO Test::Harness too old
 KWILLIAMS/PathTools-3.24.tar.gz              : make_test NO Test::Harness too old
 KWILLIAMS/Module-Build-0.2806.tar.gz         : make_test NO Test::Harness too old
 JPEACOCK/version-0.69.tar.gz                 : make_test NO

	As so often, we are missing the required version numbers in the
	dependency graph, so I must ask CPAN.pm manually.

    Archive::Tar
 => K/KA/KANE/Archive-Tar-1.30.tar.gz
 => File::Spec                                        # 0.82 but 3.18 is installed
 => K/KW/KWILLIAMS/PathTools-3.24.tar.gz
 => Module::Build
 => K/KW/KWILLIAMS/Module-Build-0.2806.tar.gz
 => File::Spec.

	Aha. This demonstrates that the recursive dependency detector calculates
	wrong. It does not seem to take into account the minimum required
	version number. Maybe this is all due to the Test::Harness anomaly?

	Can I shorten the path? Trying on k75. If I only ask for 'install
	Archive::Tar', what happens? It gets installed. Same for File::Spec.
	Same for Module::Build. Grrr. And when I say 'upgrade', then it does
	indeed upgrade? Because Expect is not installed we must answer the
	libnet question after a while (which surprises me because it is in
	DD_PREFS) and shortly after that we are facing the same output as
	described above.

	Can this situation then be reproduced after leaving CPAN.pm? Or do we
	have to start from the beginning? 'install version' just fails due to
	'qv.al' and such. The upgrade command now does not reproduce the above
	situation.

	Seems to be FIXED in SVK rev. 1865 or so. There was (1) a variable
	confusion: s/depth/color/ around line 8802 and (2) the need to pull the
	desired version number out again within color_cmp_tmps and to compare
	with what we have available at the moment. (3) we needed a way to
	withdraw quickly when we only set all commandcolors to 0. Not sure if we
	couldn't withdraw much quicker though: isn't recursion detection after
	the command has finished completely bogus? No, it is necessary because
	if we run into recursion it is no fun and we must break it.

	BTW, it's incredible how long it takes to upgrade 28095: more than 30
	minutes.

2007-02-05  Andreas J Koenig  <akoenig@iconmobile.com>

	* Important things I forgot in the talk paper (minus means already written):

	-degraded mode
	-add distribution name to every OK/NOT OK; also inspired by Ilya.
	-mention 'cpan .', compare with pip and Inject stuff
	-mention yaml_module and YAML::Syck earlier
	-build_requires_install_policy
	-scripts installation
	Devel::Cover statistics??? -- not really interesting
	eexpect example -- no, no good example found
	- force/fforce
	- auto_commit
	-	maybe mention Kwalify in the distroprefs section
	- Randy status report
	- patch/applypatch support with example
	- goto example
	- commandline example -- no, too intimidating

	Screenshot of the hosts command

cpan[1]> hosts
CPAN: YAML loaded ok (v0.62)
Log starts: Thu Jan  4 16:26:35 2007
Log ends  : Fri Feb  2 17:14:48 2007

Successful downloads:
   N       kB  secs      kB/s url
   1      504     1     360.3 ftp://ftp.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be/pub/mirror/CPAN/
   1      501     1     254.7 ftp://ftp.rediris.es/mirror/CPAN/
   2      898     3     252.3 ftp://dl.iskon.hr/pub/CPAN/
   1      125     0     226.4 http://cpan.serveroffice.at/
   2      164     0     218.5 http://cpan.interprovide.de/
   1      501     2     182.8 ftp://cpan.mirrors.skynet.be/pub/CPAN/
   2       72     0     175.1 http://www.planet-elektronik.de/CPAN/
   1      218     1     167.4 ftp://cpan.provocation.net/
   2      309     2     130.9 ftp://ftp.cs.uu.nl/mirror/CPAN/
   1      126     1     119.0 http://cpan.blic.net/
   4      201     1     111.8 http://cpan.org.ua/
   2       43     0     105.6 http://www.chemmedia.de/mirrors/CPAN/
   1      121     1     104.0 ftp://cpan.mirrors.easynet.fr/pub/ftp.cpan.org/
   2      133     1      99.0 http://cpan.univ-paris.com/
   5      555     8      69.3 ftp://ftp.litnet.lt/pub/CPAN/
   2      203     3      59.3 ftp://ftp.flirble.org/pub/CPAN/
   1       88     1      58.6 ftp://ftp.cpan.nl/pub/CPAN/
   2       56     1      56.2 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/lang/perl/CPAN/
   1       34     0      56.0 http://cpan.panu.it/
   1      125     2      55.9 ftp://no-more.kiev.ua/pub/CPAN/

Unsuccessful downloads:
   2 http://cpan.univ-paris.com/
   2 http://www.chemmedia.de/mirrors/CPAN/
   2 http://cpan.interprovide.de/
   2 ftp://ftp.uit.no/pub/languages/perl/cpan/
   2 ftp://gnu.kookel.org/ftp/CPAN/
   2 ftp://ftp.telepac.pt/pub/cpan/
   2 http://cpan.mirror.rokscom.nl/
   2 ftp://ftp.du.se/pub/CPAN/
   1 http://kvin.lv/pub/CPAN/
   1 http://cpan.enstimac.fr/
   1 http://cpan.org.ua/
   1 http://cpan.panu.it/


2007-02-04  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Got another mail from T. Need to close the issue. Better a WONTFIX
	than scenes like those we had on P5P at the end of the 90ies.

2007-02-03  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Feature request by self: introduce a lex TELS that ignores a failing
	Makefile.PL, declares the META.yml as authoritative (for lack of
	alternatives), and reruns the Makefile.PL; we should count how often we
	reran it and give it a final death shot after the second time.

	This solution should fit together with a refined model of the toolchain
	as recently pointed out by Adam Kennedy who said:

1. Configure Dependency
2. Build Dependency
3. Test Dependency
4. Install Dependency
5. Run-Time Dependency

For the current CPAN case, we can consider "requires" to cover
Run-Time Dependency, and "build_requires" to cover all other 4.

Since the Configure Dependency is required to be installed before
configuring, that means that we have to do build_requires before
running our configure script.

	And Schwern recently also said something in this direction.... Where did
	he post something? On P5P:

From: Michael G Schwern <schwern@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: $VERSION string of ExtUtils::MM_Unix
To: John Peacock <jpeacock@rowman.com>
CC: schwern@pobox.com, perl5-porters@perl.org, rgarciasuarez@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 22:46:35 -0800
Reply-To: schwern@pobox.com

John Peacock wrote:
>> I'd say to send the patch, but I don't see the utility when C<$VERSION =
>> '1.23_01'; \n $VERSION = eval $VERSION> works fine and is a lot simpler to
>> maintain.  I remain open to convincing.
> 
> But Damian suggested C<use version; $VERSION = qv('1.2.3');>, which EU::MM isn't
> completely prepared to deal with.  Now that PAUSE has a way to reset the latest
> release, module authors can switch from numeric to extended versions (SVK just
> did that with v2.0.0).  Can EU::MM handle comparing those without version.pm around?

Ah ha, that's a horse of a different color.  This, I presume, is the VERSION_FROM problem?  Distribution Foo's Makefile.PL says "VERSION_FROM => 'lib/Foo.pm'" which says C<use version; our $VERSION = qv'1.2.3';>.  Even if Foo depends on version.pm the CPAN shells try to run the Makefile.PL before it resolves dependencies (something I'd like to change).

Ok, that's convincing.  Send it on.



	Even though I believe this is too complex to be solved in a one day
	timeframe, I'm tempted.

	* How come that I did get the impression that PREREQ_FATAL=0 fixes all
	the TELS distros that set PREREQ_FATAL to 1? Just tried with blead@30104
	and it does not help. At least not with TELS/math/bignum-0.18.tar.gz.

	So maybe I tried them out in the "right" order? Yes, this must have been
	the case. The "right" order seems to be: Math::BigInt, Math::BigRat.

	This means that we discovered a bug in MakeMaker (a
	non-commandline-overrideable parameter) and we need 4 patches for TELS.

	This is about the MakeMaker bug: http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=24774

	I'll first ask Tels himself before I go this route. [time passes] As
	expected, Tels is not ready to remove PREREQ_FATAL from his modules.

	* TELS has given all new Math modules the PREREQ_FATAL parameter. Trying
	now to counteract with PREREQ_FATAL=0. Yes, the commandline wins, so
	this gives a new distropref file. Update 2007-02-04: I was wrong.

	But with three big* packages upgraded DateTime::Util::Astro::Sun still fails.

	So when did Astro install successfully for the last time?

	for p in `~k/sources/Perl-Repository-APC/SVN/scripts/binsearchaperl --show-cache` ; do $p -e 'print $^X, $"'; $p tests/has-DateTime-Util-Astro.pl ; done | tee show-astro.out

	ergibt als letztes:
	
	/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pGoZsz3/perl-5.8.0@30044/bin/perl 0.040

	and this was:

	-rwxr-xr-x 2 k k 3850309 Jan 28 03:48 /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pGoZsz3/perl-5.8.0@30044/bin/perl*

	Running CPAN.pm with 30044:

	cpan[2]> r /big/

Package namespace         installed    latest  in CPAN file
Math::BigFloat                 1.51      1.53  TELS/math/Math-BigInt-1.79.tar.gz
Math::BigInt::FastCalc      0.10_01      0.11  TELS/math/Math-BigInt-FastCalc-0.11.tar.gz
Math::BigInt::GMP              1.18      1.19  TELS/math/Math-BigInt-GMP-1.19.tar.gz
Math::BigRat                   0.15      0.16  TELS/math/Math-BigRat-0.16.tar.gz
bigint                         0.07      0.08  TELS/math/bignum-0.18.tar.gz

cpan[4]> ls TELS/math/*
  172453 2007-01-28 TELS/math/Math-BigInt-1.78.tar.gz
  172135 2007-02-02 TELS/math/Math-BigInt-1.79.tar.gz
   41007 2007-02-02 TELS/math/Math-BigInt-FastCalc-0.11.tar.gz
   37602 2007-01-28 TELS/math/Math-BigInt-GMP-1.19.tar.gz
   34907 2007-01-28 TELS/math/Math-BigRat-0.16.tar.gz
   15933 2007-01-28 TELS/math/bignum-0.18.tar.gz

	I could prove for both bleadperl@30044 and maintperl@29832 that the
	failure is caused by an upgrade to Math-BigInt-1.79. Report written to
	Tels and DMAKI.

	SUMMARIZED at http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=24779

2007-02-02  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Tels has quickly released three more distros but
	DateTime::Util::Astro::Sun still fails. No time to investigate.

	* Yves has posted a patch that should fix the XML::Twig failures but the
	pumpkin has not yet reacted. Update 2007-02-04: Steve Peters has
	integrated it, problem solved. YAY!

	* what's the problem with Math::BigInt?

	bleadperl has 1.77, TELS has released 1.78. Running the tests for 1.78
	produces lots of warnings. DateTime::Util::Astro::Sun produces lots of
	failures with it but also when I downgrade to 1.77. Giving up for now.

2007-02-01  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Summary of the facts, also posted to Ken:

(1) perl is bleadperl @30080 (verified again with 30087)
(2) Module::Build is 0.2806
(3) distro is DMAKI/DateTime-Util-Calc-0.11.tar.gz
(4) Math::BigInt::GMP and Math::Pari must NOT be installed, so that y_n() is triggered
(5) I call 'perl Build.PL > /tmp/ttt' and it hangs forever and /tmp/ttt remains empty

	Continuing with experiments.

	Downgrading Module::Build to 0.2805 and the bug stays.
	Downgrading Module::Build to 0.2804 and the bug stays.
	Downgrading Module::Build to 0.2610 and the bug goes away.
	0.2801 not ok
	0.2612 ok
	0.27_09 ok
	0.27_10 ok
	0.28 not ok

	Studying the diff between 27_10 and 28:

+                  repository => 'http://svn.perl.org/modules/Module-Build/'

	Taking note of the repository for refined binary search. But watch out:

	trunk/tags/branches!

-0.27_11  Tue Mar 28 22:50:50 CST 2006
+0.28  Thu Apr 27 22:25:00 CDT 2006

	Where is 27_11?

	5978 is a test, 5977 talks about prompt and y_n, 5871...

	0.28     was 5994
	0.27_10  was 5850

	5870 died on that Build.PL
	5871 works correctly
	5976 works wrong
	5931 works wrong
	5919 works wrong
	5904 works correctly

	The diff between the two is interesting:

+sub _is_unattended {
+  my $self = shift;
+  return $ENV{PERL_MM_USE_DEFAULT} || ( !$self->_is_interactive && eof STDIN );
+}
+

	Sure, this hangs. REPORTED on the mailing list.
	
	* D/DM/DMAKI/DateTime-Util-Calc-0.11.tar.gz again. Ken wrote me to say
	that Module::Build does set $|, so I do the following:

2007-02-01 07:27  cd ~/.cpan/build/DateTime-Util-Calc-0.11-Or71Ir
2007-02-01 07:53  mv /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/p8FWT5N/perl-5.8.0@30080/lib/site_perl/5.9.5/i686-linux-64int/Math/BigInt/GMP.pm
2007-02-01 07:53  /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/p8FWT5N/perl-5.8.0@30080/bin/perl Build.PL >| /tmp/p8FWT5N.out2 2>&1

	This "hangs" and the file /tmp/p8FWT5N.out2 contains ONLY the following lines:

Math::BigInt::FastCalc is missing method '_from_oct' at /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/p8FWT5N/perl-5.8.0@30080/lib/site_perl/5.9.5/DateTime/Util/Calc.pm line 9
Cannot load outdated Math::BigInt::FastCalc v0.10_01, please upgrade at /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/p8FWT5N/perl-5.8.0@30080/lib/site_perl/5.9.5/DateTime/Util/Calc.pm line 9

	So I must repeat this in the debugger to find out who is waiting for what.

	I reach line 501:

  DB<4> 
Module::Build::Base::prompt(/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/p8FWT5N/perl-5.8.0@30080/lib/5.9.5/Module/Build/Base.pm:501):
501:      local $|=1;
DB<4> 
Module::Build::Base::prompt(/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/p8FWT5N/perl-5.8.0@30080/lib/5.9.5/Module/Build/Base.pm:502):
502:      print "$mess $dispdef";
DB<4> x $|
0  1

  So this seems correct.
  
	I change lines 501 and 502 to read:

  local $|=1;{my $s = fileno select;warn "Going to print message to selected filehandle[$s]. \$|[$|]";}
  print "$mess $dispdef";warn "Have printed message to selected filehandle";

	With that I retry and am quite surprised that again the output file
	looks like the first time.

	For my testing it seems better to not redirect STDERR but only STDOUT,
	so we can just look with 'ls -l' to see that the file is empty.

2007-01-30  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=24673 Template fails.

	Maybe needs a binary search? DONE and REPORTED.

	* DMAKI/DateTime-Util-Calc-0.11.tar.gz hangs, but I do not see why.

  /usr/bin/patch -N --fuzz=3 -p1
patching file t/04-bigfloat.t
Prepending /home/k/.cpan/build/DBD-SQLite-1.13-PQHMS0/blib/arch /home/k/.cpan/build/DBD-SQLite-1.13-PQHMS0/blib/lib to PERL5LIB for 'make'

  CPAN.pm: Going to build D/DM/DMAKI/DateTime-Util-Calc-0.11.tar.gz


	So I start to believe that Module::Install (or who?) does not set $|. ps
	shows:

k        11717  0.0  0.3   7704  5488 pts/3    S+   00:52   0:00 /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/peBfNb9/perl-5.8.0@30067/bin/perl Build.PL

	% lsof -p 11717|grep cwd
perl    11717    k  cwd    DIR    9,1    4096 11323846 /home/k/.cpan/build/DateTime-Util-Calc-0.11-oDcgJK

	By killing all jobs involved in this, I can find out more:

>06:31:09 k@k75:/home/src/perl/repoperls% kill 3391 3392 1458 1459 11717
>06:32:02 k@k75:/home/src/perl/repoperls% cd /home/k/.cpan/build/DateTime-Util-Calc-0.11-oDcgJK
>06:32:12 k@k75:~/.cpan/build/DateTime-Util-Calc-0.11-oDcgJK% /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/peBfNb9/perl-5.8.0@30067/bin/perl Build.PL

================================================================================
+  You don't seem to have neither Math::BigInt::GMP and Math::BigInt::Pari
+
+  Many astronomical calculations require the arbitrary-precision math
+  libraries like GMP. Without it you might see occasional overflows
+  which will result in an incorrect calculation. It is recommended that
+  you install either one of the module (If both are installed, GMP will
+  be used)
+
+  To install GMP, you will be required to have installed GMP library from
+  http://www.swox.com/gmp/ prior to installing the Perl module
+
+  To install Pari, you will be required to have installed Pari from
+  http://www.parigp-home.de/ prior to installing the Perl module.
+
+  Proceed with installation without Math::BigInt::GMP or Math::BigInt::Pari? [n] 

	Why did I never before see this?

	Because Math::BigInt::GMP fails! See
	http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=24672

	Whatever the answer, this must go into distroprefs. DONE for both TELS
	and DMAKI.

	In the Build.PL I see:

	    my $proceed = Module::Build->y_n($message, "n");

	Looks to me that Module::Build should set $| within y_n? Yes? No?

	Missing $| reported to module build mailing list just now.

2007-01-28  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* My talk proposal http://www.perl-workshop.de/auth/my/edittalk?id=46

-Distroprefs: Module morphing, taming, killing, obedience, etc.
-CPAN::Reporter: Talkback.
-CPAN::SQLite: use less memory.
-dot distros: cpan DOT (bring your own)
-Persistent Shell. build_dir_reuse
-Permanent Shell. reload seems reliable now
-Upgrade.
-Test Now, Install Later. Is_tested, install_tested
-Interactive Configuration of single items.
-Color.
Bundle::CPANxxl - what is in there? sequence matters.
-hosts stats

	* Feature: On recursive dependency please dump the required version.
	DONE

	* Spreadsheet-ParseExcel-0.28 is broken for quite some time now.

	https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=24267 is about missing
	prerequisites. This explains two test failures but not the third:

t/examples/warning......
#   Failed test 'stderr is empty when running warning.pl'
#   at t/examples/warning.t line 10.
#          got: 'Character in 'c' format wrapped in pack at /home/k/.cpan/build/Spreadsheet-ParseExcel-0.28-ddCmVr/blib/lib/Spreadsheet/ParseExcel.pm line 1744.
# Character in 'c' format wrapped in pack at /home/k/.cpan/build/Spreadsheet-ParseExcel-0.28-ddCmVr/blib/lib/Spreadsheet/ParseExcel.pm line 1748.
# '
#     expected: ''
# Looks like you failed 1 test of 2.
dubious
	Test returned status 1 (wstat 256, 0x100)
DIED. FAILED test 1
	Failed 1/2 tests, 50.00% okay

	https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=7376 has something about it.

	* hunting XML::Twig/bleadperl test failures again. I started this once
	on 2007-01-06 and yesterday I let a binary search run against 3.29.
	28202 broke 3.29 but only with a test failure that later disappeared
	again, so this result is not interesting. I need a temporary patch that
	disables the testfile t/test_xml_split.t completely. Ah, this is quite
	easy with test/args distroprefs.

	Testing a temporary MIROD.XML-Twig.yml file that lists all test scripts
	individually (except the offending one). And it turns out that this
	functionality was missing in CPAN.pm. FIXED in SVK rev. 1807

	With              28202           the test test_xml_split  started failing
	Somewhere before  28319                    test_xml_split  stopped failing
	With              28319           the test test_errors     started failing
	Somewhere before  28785                    test_errors     stopped failing
  With              28785           the test test_3_27	     started failing
	Somewhere between 29274 and 29285 the test test_mark       started failing

	274 did not fail the mark test

	275 had problems to build XML::Parser, but why? Or better yet, why did
	274 have no problems building XML::Parser 2.34? I just retried, and yes,
	274 can build XML::Parser. 29275 seems to have a syntax error in
	/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/poKEUxZ/perl-5.8.0@29275/lib/5.9.5/utf8_heavy.pl.
	Yes, it is very annoying, the syntax error is there and cannot be
	explained by anything but a disk drive error (and I had RAID break three
	times these days). It is a rotten build and must be removed.

	278 cannot be built due to two failing tests. We will ignore the failing
	tests ../ext/Time/HiRes/t/HiRes.t ../lib/perl5db.t for now. OK, it does
	not fail the mark test, just the 3_27.

	279 fails the mark test. Ready to write to P5P. And I must correct the
	temporarily manipulated test/args distroprefs file.
	
	285 failed the mark test

	29010 and 29220 have at least test_3_27.t and test_additional.t failing

	29411 and 29705 have at least test_mark failing

	30044 fails only test_3_27	and test_mark
	
	* Slaven tells me that he can confirm the Term::ReadLine::Gnu behaviour
	in the t/callback.t test that I find so annoying for 5.9.5(debugging)
	but not for 5.8.8. I.e. with 5.8.8 the window gets closed automatically
	while with 5.9.5 it stays.

	This would normally be solved with a binary search but as always with
	big distros there are risks. Tk under randomly picked 21846 segfaults
	during make test. Same for 23300.

	25302 dies quickly with

	/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pq4nEoU/perl-5.8.0@25302/bin/perl: symbol lookup error: /home/src/perl/tk/SVN/blib/arch/auto/Tk/Event/Event.so: undefined symbol: Perl_newXS_flags

	28810 dies quickly with

	Strange: could not load Tk library: Assertion (svtype)((_svi)->sv_flags & 0xff) >= SVt_PV failed: file "Event.xs", line 33 at /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pPOaCtI/perl-5.8.0@28810/lib/5.9.4/i686-linux-64int/DynaLoader.pm line 224.
Compilation failed in require at /home/src/perl/tk/SVN/blib/lib/Tk.pm line 13.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /home/src/perl/tk/SVN/blib/lib/Tk.pm line 13.
Compilation failed in require at (eval 3) line 3.

	and 29411 similarly with

	Strange: could not load Tk library: Assertion (svtype)((_svi)->sv_flags & 0xff) >= SVt_PV failed: file "Event.xs", line 33 at /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/perl/pXADjKY/perl-5.8.0@29411/lib/5.9.5/i686-linux-64int/DynaLoader.pm line 226.
Compilation failed in require at /home/src/perl/tk/SVN/blib/lib/Tk.pm line 13.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /home/src/perl/tk/SVN/blib/lib/Tk.pm line 13.


	* Speed things up by reading distroprefs less often or otherwise find
	out who is so slow here. What happens between 'Running make for
	<distro>' and 'Checksum for <distro> ok'? Time is spent in get(). Even
	though we now do negative caching of distroprefs for the time of one
	command, the get() is still slower for some reason. SEEMS AMENDED

	* if somebody else deletes a build_dir, we must offer a better solution
	than breakage 'can't chdir...'

	Suggest "maybe try 'force get $ID' to clean up the object in memory" or
	something like that. Or "to reset everything" or "to start with a fresh
	distro"... Nothing seems really good and correct. DONE

	* Catalyst would be another candidate for a large dependency list. INC'ED

	* hr ================ no todos below this line ================ /hr

	* hr ================ no todos below this line ================ /hr

	* hr ================ no todos below this line ================ /hr

	* Bug: batch jobs scan for sizes although they never delete anything. So
	either teach them to delete under certain conditions or do not scan for
	sizes. FIXED

	* Bug: "faileTAB" does not do completion

	Fixed in SVK rev. 1806

	*  NEELY/Data-Serializer-0.36.tar.gz            : make_test NO

	This distro appeared these days on the make_test-NO scene. But when I
	look closer, it turns out that it fails with the pretty old bleadperl
	22491.

2007-01-27  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* what's going on with JHOBLITT/DateTime-Format-ISO8601-0.0403.tar.gz?

	rt.cpan.org has the solution in ticket 24335. Patch by Aaron Crane (=ARC)

	Aaron's patch cannot be copy and pasted because of some whitespace
	problems. So I try to apply it manually.

	======================Dealing With Patches==================

	My procedure when I encounter a broken package:

    look DISTRO
    cd ..
    rsync -va DISTRODIR/ DISTRODIR.orig/
    # fix the distro in DISTRODIR
    diff -urp DISTRODIR.orig DISTRODIR > DISTRODIR-ANDK-01.patch
    gzip DISTRODIR-ANDK-01.patch

	I then upload the resulting patch to my CPAN patches/ directory and
	write a YAML file into my prefs_dir/ directory that contains roughly

    ---
    comment: "This patch fixes ..."
    match:
      distribution: "^DISTRO$"

    patches:
      - ANDK/patches/DISTRODIR-ANDK-01.patch

	That's all. From then I can install that distro for any perl version on
	that machine.

	Uploaded to CPAN and a new distropref file is made.
	
	* yesterday I built maintperl 29988 and somehow megainstall failed with
	Jifty-DBI asking auto-install questions. I suppose the question was
	asked by a different perl and an old CPAN because I do have a Jifty-DBI
	distropref file that should prevent questions asking.

	NO! The malfunctioning started exactly at 23:40 when the disk also
	started failing. So I suppose we can simply restart a megainstall on
	29988 now.

	No. Still hanging. No signs of being the wrong perl. Trying with 'make run'.

______________________ D i s t r o P r e f s ______________________
                      AUDREYT.Jifty-DBI.yml[0]                      
Running make for A/AU/AUDREYT/Jifty-DBI-0.32.tar.gz
  Has already been unwrapped into directory /home/k/.cpan/build/Jifty-DBI-0.32-LUlvH7
  '/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/pLUMXwK/perl-5.8.0@29988/bin/perl Makefile.PL' returned status 2, won't make

	'fforce make ...' first scans the build_dir for sizes which takes a
	while, maybe the resync of the RAID is slowing it down. After that the
	distroprefs mechanics answer the auto-install question(s).

	But 'test Jifty::DBI' fails some tests. It tests many dependencies, so
	let's look at the summary:

  AUDREYT/Jifty-DBI-0.32.tar.gz
  /usr/bin/make test -- NOT OK
Failed during this command:
 JHOBLITT/DateTime-Format-ISO8601-0.0403.tar.gz: make_test NO
 AUDREYT/Jifty-DBI-0.32.tar.gz                : make_test NO

cpan[4]> is_tested 
Sat Jan 27 06:08:02 2007 /home/k/.cpan/build/FreezeThaw-0.43-MyeZXx
Sat Jan 27 06:08:07 2007 /home/k/.cpan/build/DBIx-DBSchema-0.31-Wrf6R4
Sat Jan 27 06:08:17 2007 /home/k/.cpan/build/Lingua-EN-Inflect-1.89-8UYDiB
Sat Jan 27 06:08:36 2007 /home/k/.cpan/build/Cache-Simple-TimedExpiry-0.27-rznB3I

	Ahja, just the normal autoinstall misbehaviour. Because something
	failed, it tries to go into recursion. My normal patch
	ANDK/Module-AutoInstall-in-inc-ANDK-01.patch seems to take the
	appropriate amount of care for that.

2007-01-26  Andreas J Koenig  <akoenig@iconmobile.com>

	* document build_requires and when you talk about prerequisites, name
	the option names explicitly. DONE

	* note/explain the improved behaviour on recursion detection in the
	Changes file. DONE.

	* Today I found a bug in Tk::Pod when trying with bleadperl:

	/..../tkpod -I lib CPAN

	Need to have a closer look some day.

	A test script also failed but I installed it with 'force notest install
	Tk::Pod' because I had more interest in getting _71 out.

	Sent a patch to Slaven today which commented out an else in line 190 or
	so.

2007-01-26  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* bug: 'fforce instTAB' doesn't do completion.

	FIXED in SVK rev. 1762

2007-01-23  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Today I also saw an uninstallable IO::AIO 2.32: the AIO.pm file was
	not found within blib although it was there in blib/lib/IO/IO/AIO.pm.
	Who is playing a false game? Diff between 3.31 and 2.32 shows:

+    PM           => {
+                   'AIO.pm'            => '$(INST_LIBDIR)/IO/AIO.pm',
+                    },

	Bug fixed and reported to Marc:

--- Makefile.PL~	2007-01-22 16:58:24.000000000 +0100
+++ Makefile.PL	2007-01-23 08:04:38.000000000 +0100
@@ -61,7 +61,7 @@
     VERSION_FROM => "AIO.pm",
     LIBS         => ['-lpthread -lrt', '-lpthread', '-lpthreads', ''],
     PM           => {
-    		    'AIO.pm'		=> '$(INST_LIBDIR)/IO/AIO.pm',
+    		    'AIO.pm'		=> '$(INST_LIBDIR)/AIO.pm',
                     },
     clean        => { FILES => "autoconf/config.h autoconf/config.log autoconf/config.status" },
 });


	* Today I saw this:

cpan[15]> install Coro
Running install for module 'Coro'
Running make for M/ML/MLEHMANN/Coro-3.41.tar.gz
  Has already been unwrapped into directory /home/k/.cpan/build/Coro-3.41-xlIZvI
  Has already been made
Running make test
  Couldn't chdir to '/home/k/.cpan/build/Coro-3.41-xlIZvI': No such file or directory
Running make install
  make test had returned bad status, won't install without force

	This was already somewhere in my Todo list: give up objects in memory
	that cannot fulfil some promise or at least offer the solution which is

	fforce install Coro # but no, this is not an appropriate suggestion

	Or remove the objects from memory while CacheMgr is running. Or both! If
	we delete it ourselves, the deletion from memory is appropriate

  --DONE in ~ SVK rev. 1760 --

	but if somebody else deletes it we must offer a better solution than the
	above breakage.

	Suggest "maybe try 'force get $ID' to clean up the object in memory" or
	something like that. Or "to reset everything" or "to start with a fresh
	distro"... Nothing seems really good and correct. LATER
	
	* Today Ken confirmed that _build/prereqs is safe to rely on. Good news,
	Thanks Ken!

	* Todo before 71: write a Changes file. Declare YAML::Tiny not supported
	DONE; support is_tested and install_tested and document them (DONE SVK
	rev 1763); integrate the distroprefs README into the manpage (DONE SVK
	rev. 1766); speed up distroprefs parsing with a cache DONE in SVK rev.
	1764;

	It would be nice to understand the failures that were reported through
	testers and the one I saw on my dev05 box and the ones I saw on OSX but
	it will again be a developer release after all, so maybe these will have
	to wait.

	The test failure on dev05 is not reproducable. OSX?

	OSX passes all tests with my first _71 test build.
	
	* Today I tried 1.88_69 on OSX wit 5.8.6 as it comes preinstalled.
	File::HomeDir has issues and I could not use CPAN::Reporter to write a
	report because it said there was no config file. Will have to revisit
	this.

	* For several days I have kept Kwalify out with dontload_list. Today I
	opened the door again and let 29923 work through megainstall. All's
	well.

2007-01-21  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* We need a speedup of the distroprefs stuff. Currently we're going
	through readdir and YAML::Load thousand times per module. We should
	probably cache the whole directory structure once per command and delete
	it from re-used build_dirs. DONE with negative per-command distroprefs
	cache.

2007-01-20  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Today I have a segv with 29895 when running CPAN.pm. It may be
	relevant that I erroneously left YAML::Tiny configured? I reconfigured
	to prefer YAML::Syck and ... the SEGV remains. Configuring limit
	coredumpsize 100m now. The SEGV seems to bring the box to its knees and
	the logfile of the first run of 29895 says 'Out of memory'. And the core
	file is indeed 100m and has no stack. Setting coredumpsize to 1000m now.
	The problem comes immediately after loading Kwalify 1.13

	29887 was the last before 895 and its logfile is large. It came to the
	place where it loaded YAML::Tiny and from there is broke but not with a
	SEGV. So something between 29887 and 29895 is evil. How ironic that most
	of these patches are related to CPAN.pm!

	The newest core file is 1000M large, gdb needs a long time to load it
	and again says "No stack" when I say 'bt'.

	Next idea is to 'o conf dontload_list push Kwalify'. Now we get a step
	further. CPAN tries to install Archive::Zip, then becomes very slow,
	grows to 55M and then starts scanning build_dir for sizes. From that
	point it succeeds in building and installing, just a bit slow it seems,
	but this may be just the normal distroprefs slowness. Bundle::CPANxxl is
	installed now and megainstall is running. After a while I discover that
	I made a typo for yaml_module and said YAML::Sync. Of course this leads
	to slowness. Interesting mistake though, we might want to guard against
	it. 'make megainstall' finishes just as we're used to.

	FirstTime warns on misspelled module names since SVK rev. 1761.

2007-01-15  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* DBIx::Class has DBD::SQLite as build_requires. Thus it is being built,
	not installed and CPAN::SQLite does not demand it as prerequisite
	because it finds it (?) but then the install_driver fails during the
	tests. Weird.

	As a first alternative I try to install DBD::SQLite explicitly
	immediately before CPAN::SQLite.

	* See the two fails on CPAN testers for 1.88_69!

	They are both MSWin32 and 397036 is 5.8.5 and fails

t/31sessions.......dubious
	Test returned status 5 (wstat 1280, 0x500)
DIED. FAILED tests 10-11, 14, 22, 26
	Failed 5/30 tests, 83.33% okay

	Output impossible to read

	398304 is 5.8.8 and fails

t/31sessions.......# DEBUG: name[first]system["C:\strawberry-perl\perl\bin\perl.exe" "-IC:\strawberry-perl\.cpanplus\5.8.8\build\CPAN-1.88_69\t" "-Mblib" "-MCPAN::MyConfig" "-MCPAN" "-e" "@CPAN::Defaultsites = (); shell" > test.out] at t/31sessions.t line 147.

#   Failed test 'command[dump $::x=4*6+1]'
#   at t/31sessions.t line 162.
#                   'Lockfile removed.
# '
#     doesn't match '/= 25;/'
Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at t/31sessions.t line 162.


	It seems there is no output at all to parse.

	* Look into YAML::Tiny; doesn't seem to work. We need a better catch on
	the problem it is causing: currently I do not see where it is failing.

2007-01-14  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* learn something new every day: less -R preserves the ANSI color
	sequences. Best way to analyse the captured output.

	* maint@29776 breaks DBI, need to check with 29802. Failure mailed to
	P5P. Fixed by Nicholas.

2007-01-13  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* And the next new bug: again an endless loop between PDF::FromHTML and
	XML::Twig. I'm not sure in which state CPAN.pm was when this run
	started, so I rerun from scratch with 29779 and stop the usual loop.

	No, the bug is there. The distro of PDF::FromHTML is the next on the
	loop and it depends on XML::Twig. The latter fails its tests but
	nonetheless re-queing is done. Instead of simply continuing with normal
	business because we do not need to requeue. What a mess.

	OK, sure, by removing the "next" for sponsored modules we gave the
	option that things get requeued that have failed. Should also have an
	easy fix.
	
	Tomorrow: megainstall with maintperl@29776, blead@297{79,80}, etc.

	(aside: the stupid thing about dot distros is that they are being
	needlessly rerun)

	Maybe write a failed_within_this_command() method?

	Is it true that batch jobs scan for sizes and then do not delete
	anything from build_dir? It seems so. My first 'make run' after a while
	faces 3.3 GB and in all batch jobs I saw the dot painting "for sizes".

	(The last successful testshell protocol I have with Expect on is
	make-test-20061230T172249.)

	30shell fails and it is again hard to find the offending test. Another
	proof that new tests must go into 31sessions.t. But 31session does not
	finish. Easily reproducable by trying to install
	CPAN::Test::Dummy::Perl5::Make::CircDepeOne

	It seems that the recursion detection is now broken. We reach the limit
	of 100 in CPAN::Queue which should never be reached. If I say ^C there,
	then I see a seemingly endless loop of "Has already been...". Somehow we
	seem to bypass the color_cmd_tmps.

	It seems that everybody who puts something onto the queue is responsible
	for calling color_cmd_tmps? How silly if true :-( But it seems that we
	*are* calling color_cmd_tmps before jumpqueue in follow_prereqs. Yes,
	but we call it with $color=1 and this has already been called before we
	had the prereqs and so it returns early. We probably must call it with
	$color=2? How obfuscated if true :-( Yes, and by calling with $color=2
	and preventing an early return of all color_cmd_tmps when $color==2 I
	start to pass on 31sessions.t. Recursion detection is now even faster,
	we do not even arrive at testing which I consider a good thing.

	But it comes at a price. The disadvantage is that it is a die() and the
	usual "Failed during this command" gets lost. So what do we want?

	The result in older versions was:

Recursive dependency detected:
    CPAN::Test::Dummy::Perl5::Make::CircDepeOne
 => A/AN/ANDK/CPAN-Test-Dummy-Perl5-Make-CircDepeOne-1.00.tar.gz
 => CPAN::Test::Dummy::Perl5::Make::CircDepeThree
 => A/AN/ANDK/CPAN-Test-Dummy-Perl5-Make-CircDepeThree-1.00.tar.gz
 => CPAN::Test::Dummy::Perl5::Make::CircDepeTwo
 => A/AN/ANDK/CPAN-Test-Dummy-Perl5-Make-CircDepeTwo-1.00.tar.gz
 => CPAN::Test::Dummy::Perl5::Make::CircDepeOne.
Cannot continue.
Failed during this command:
 ANDK/CPAN-Test-Dummy-Perl5-Make-CircDepeTwo-1.00.tar.gz: make_test NO one dependency not OK (CPAN::Test::Dummy::Perl5::Make::CircDepeOne)
 ANDK/CPAN-Test-Dummy-Perl5-Make-CircDepeThree-1.00.tar.gz: make_test NO one dependency not OK (CPAN::Test::Dummy::Perl5::Make::CircDepeTwo)
 ANDK/CPAN-Test-Dummy-Perl5-Make-CircDepeOne-1.00.tar.gz: make_test NO one dependency not OK (CPAN::Test::Dummy::Perl5::Make::CircDepeThree)

	Looking at that again it appears not a very clever answer because the
	"Failed" summary does not talk about the recursion detection. I think I
	prefer the die().

	On the other hand we need to help people in this situation and 'look
	Foo' should not fail because of recursion. This is easily fixable: we
	simply call color_cmd_tmps only for "make|test|install".

2007-01-12  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Hunting bugs. The first reliable way to produce the needless loop
	CBuilder<->File::Spec was to install a fresh maintperl@19726 and make
	mega_install on top. It takes a while. I need a quicker way better yet a
	testcase.

	The next best program which still runs for a long time is

	/home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/*/p*/perl-5*@29726/bin/perl -Ilib -MCPAN -e 'CPAN::HandleConfig->load;$CPAN::DEBUG|=16;$CPAN::DEBUG|=32;$CPAN::DEBUG|=32768;install(qw(Expect Bundle::CPANxxl))' >& ttt.out

	Unfortunately this reproduces it only once. Fortunately I now understand
	the problem: CBuilder comes with a perfectly well suited Build.PL and
	with a Makefile.PL. My prefer_installer says "MB". But when MB is not
	yet installed, this must not be taken seriously. The bug is that CPAN.pm
	actually tries to execute the Build.PL and fails and then refuses to
	retry. This should have an easy fix in get() and now I believe, a
	testcase for this might be a bit too hard given that Module::Build will
	be in the core soon.

	I think I fixed it.

	Now I'm curious how this influences the Zlib bug. The endless loop
	problem was, after all, a completely separate bug, uniq to the situation
	described above. So I can remove the "next" in the sponsored_modules
	loop and expect that it delays the testing of Compress::Zlib?

	I seem to see a new bug now: CPAN::Reporter builds, tests, installs and
	immediately tests again. --> another investigation necessary

	But yes, the other bug is now also fixed by removing the "next" hack.

2007-01-10  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Bug: recursive dependency ExtUtils::CBuilder <-> File::Spec

	CPAN.pm gave me this puzzle today when trying to build on top of 5.8.9-tobe

  Recursive dependency detected:
      ExtUtils::CBuilder
   => K/KW/KWILLIAMS/ExtUtils-CBuilder-0.18.tar.gz
   => File::Spec
   => K/KW/KWILLIAMS/PathTools-3.24.tar.gz
   => ExtUtils::CBuilder.
  Cannot continue.

	But File::Spec 3.12 is installed, so the recursive dependency should be
	breakable.

	AND the dump command should not fail under recursive dependency.

	Interstingly, the problem went away without special intervention. I
	remember now that I have seen it before and that it disappeared. Hrm.

	* Bug: 5.8.9 cannot install Compress::Zlib 2.003

	----      PMQS/Compress-Zlib-2.003.tar.gz     ---- (0)
    IO::Compress::Gzip::Constants [requires]
    IO::Uncompress::Base [requires]
    IO::Compress::Base [requires]
    IO::Uncompress::Gunzip [requires]
    IO::Compress::Gzip [requires]
    Compress::Raw::Zlib [requires]
    IO::Compress::Base::Common [requires]

	[[[
    IO::Compress::Gzip::Constants PMQS/IO-Compress-Zlib-2.003.tar.gz (1)
    IO::Uncompress::Base          PMQS/IO-Compress-Base-2.003.tar.gz (2)
    IO::Compress::Base            PMQS/IO-Compress-Base-2.003.tar.gz (2)
    IO::Uncompress::Gunzip        PMQS/IO-Compress-Zlib-2.003.tar.gz (1)
    IO::Compress::Gzip            PMQS/IO-Compress-Zlib-2.003.tar.gz (1)
	  Compress::Raw::Zlib           PMQS/Compress-Raw-Zlib-2.003.tar.gz (3)
    IO::Compress::Base::Common    PMQS/IO-Compress-Base-2.003.tar.gz (2)

  (1)
----    PMQS/IO-Compress-Zlib-2.003.tar.gz    ----
    IO::Uncompress::Base [requires] (2)
    IO::Compress::Base [requires]   (2)
    Compress::Raw::Zlib [requires]  (3)

	(2) PMQS/IO-Compress-Base-2.003.tar.gz (OK: 44923)

	(3) PMQS/Compress-Raw-Zlib-2.003.tar.gz (OK: 45150)

	(1) PMQS/IO-Compress-Zlib-2.003.tar.gz (OK: 45329)
	
	(0 in 45401) Won't repeat unsuccessful test during this command
	
	]]]


43878:	[0mmake[1]: Entering directory `/home/k/.cpan/build/Compress-Zlib-2.003-z0UL8v'
PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/prPS0AD/perl-5.8.0@29726/bin/perl "-MExtUtils::Command::MM" "-e" "test_harness(0, 'blib/lib', 'blib/arch')" t/*.t
t/000prereq.....
#     Failed test (t/000prereq.t at line 46)
#     Tried to use 'Compress::Raw::Zlib'.
#     Error:  Can't locate Compress/Raw/Zlib.pm in @INC (@INC contains: t t/compress /home/k/.cpan/build/Compress-Zlib-2.003-z0UL8v/blib/lib /home/k/.cpan/build/Compress-Zlib-2.003-z0UL8v/blib/arch /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/prPS0AD/perl-5.8.0@29726/lib/5.8.8/i686-linux-64int /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/prPS0AD/perl-5.8.0@29726/lib/5.8.8 /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/prPS0AD/perl-5.8.0@29726/lib/site_perl/5.8.8/i686-linux-64int /home/src/perl/repoperls/installed-perls/maint-5.8/prPS0AD/perl-5.8.0@29726/lib/site_perl/5.8.8 .) at (eval 3) line 2.

	Why does it try testing C-Z too early? Could we convince CPAN.pm to
	retry testing in 45401? Dump its state at both points in time?

	Update 2007-01-11 akoenig : Found a "next" at the end of unsat_prereq
	that skipped already sponsored modules. Removed it because it looks as
	if it were responsible for the above bug. After that the infinite
	recursion problem between CBuilder and File::Spec dominated the next run
	and the normal recursion detection mechanism did not help to break the
	loop. To put the bad to the ugly it turned out that the recursion
	between CBuilder and File::Path is a wrong recursion in that the
	available version of File::Spec in 5.8.9 is 1.12 and CBuilder does not
	specify a version number, so is really satisfied with 1.12 but somebody
	else seems to require 1.19 and so CPAN.pm is hunting for that without a
	real reason. So we have a big bug here and no time to fix it.

	See also the "next WHAT" in CPAN::Queue::jumpqueue. If we keep it, we
	keep the queue at 100 instances of File-Spec-XXX.tar.gz without growing.
	If we remove it, the queue grows. Both cases are infinite loops, so
	neither better than the other.

2007-01-09  Andreas J. Koenig  <andreas.koenig.7os6VVqR@franz.ak.mind.de>

	* Watch the Module::Build space for updates to the question of calling
	M:B methods or parsing _build/*. Ken seemed to argue for the file (?)

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